Was 2020 election stolen or not?

Dutch Uncle said:
He definitely has problems. I have no idea how many nutjobs have manifestos although the ones who commit mass murder usually have one. It doesn’t make everyone nutjob with a manifesto a mass murderer anymore than someone who smokes pot is going to become a heroin addict as the Reefer Madness assholes claimed.
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Psychoquackery. Hallucinations. Insult fallacies. Bulverism fallacy. No argument presented.
 
Into the Night said:
Psychoquackery. Hallucinations. Insult fallacies. Bulverism fallacy. No argument presented.
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How come you link to your manifesto under different IDs that you switch between?

Is it because you're trying to make people think that you have broader support than you truly do?

Cuz that's what it looks like to everyone else.
 
LV426 said:
I don't see you anywhere there, despite you claiming the election was stolen for two months prior.

So how come you weren't there on 1/6, even though you said the election was stolen?

Was it not stolen enough for you to do anything about it?

Or is it that you don't actually believe the election was stolen?
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I don't think he really believes the 2020 election was stolen. He just says that because Trump wants him to.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
I don't think he really believes the 2020 election was stolen. He just says that because Trump wants him to.
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I agree. I think nearly all of them fall into this camp. They are desperate to be included and desperate for success, so they attach themselves to Trump and live vicariously through him. That's why they take things so personally.
 
Wolverine said:
Yep! Love my country more than you love Russia, and China, and that is a lot!
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Words are cheap and love is meaningless without action.

You and your boyfriend Donald Trump claimed the election was stolen by dark forces and the very fate of the Republic was on the line should Biden be inaugurated.

Your boyfriend Trump ordered you to come to DC and "fight like hell" to save him and the country. But instead you dove for cover in the face of what you claimed was an existential threat to the continued existence of the Republic.

That was not patriotic of you in the least.
 
Cypress said:
Words are cheap and love is meaningless without action.

You and your boyfriend Donald Trump claimed the election was stolen by dark forces and the very fate of the Republic was on the line should Biden be inaugurated.

Your boyfriend Trump ordered you to come to DC and "fight like hell" to save him and the country. But instead you dove for cover in the face of what you claimed was an existential threat to the continued existence of the Republic.

That was not patriotic of you in the least.
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Trump didn't order anyone to come to DC. He announced the rally, and people came on their own.
The federal government has fallen. The States are each deciding what to do about it. This is where Wolverine can contribute the most to defend liberty and the constitutional law.

You do not recognize the Constitution of the United States no any constitution from any State. You support the coup the Democrats have done. You support the oligarchy the Democrats have turned the federal government into. Because of this, you have become an enemy of the United States.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Several here really do believe it just like they believe masks don’t work.
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Ehhh...I don't know. I doubt their sincerity.

I don't believe any of them truly believe it; even the most fervent Trump supporter on JPP is entirely full of shit.

If there were true consequences for saying and believing it, then they'd say and believe the opposite because they're afraid of conflict.
 
Into the Night said:
Trump didn't order anyone to come to DC. He announced the rally, and people came on their own
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Trump says "jump" and they say "how high?"

Not sure how this is a defense of Trump...


The federal government has fallen.
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When did that happen?


The States are each deciding what to do about it.
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What are you talking about?


This is where Wolverine can contribute the most to defend liberty and the constitutional law.
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From behind his keyboard? How?


You do not recognize the Constitution of the United States no any constitution from any State.
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You're the one who says the country has fallen, but apparently hasn't fallen enough for you to do anything about it...
 
guno said:
He admitted he dropped out in the 9th grade and never went back to get an education, but claims h gave lectures at college :palm:
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no guno your like duch lying again .
I never claimed to give lectures in college .
I claimed to teach a class about shooting gun and gun safety where we took kids into the field to a shooting range after a couple classes on gun safety which we did in the student union building .
 
guno said:
He admitted he dropped out in the 9th grade and never went back to get an education, but claims h gave lectures at college :palm:
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Bulletbob said:
no guno your like duch lying again .
I never claimed to give lectures in college .
I claimed to teach a class about shooting gun and gun safety where we took kids into the field to a shooting range after a couple classes on gun safety which we did in the student union building .
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No, Guno is telling the truth.
You claimed you taught college classes.

Bulletbob said:
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I didnt go beyond the 9th grade because I had to worl when my grandparents who raised me got sick . I ran the farm and worked also. Until they died to pay them back for caring for me.
Yep My grammer is bad so 8s my spelling.My typing is awful
But I still managed to work on the space shuttle and eelv program .
I also mananged to teach a class for a university .

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LV426 said:
Ehhh...I don't know. I doubt their sincerity.

I don't believe any of them truly believe it; even the most fervent Trump supporter on JPP is entirely full of shit.

If there were true consequences for saying and believing it, then they'd say and believe the opposite because they're afraid of conflict.
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There’s that too, but I think many really do believe it….and, yes, IMO, those who do have mental issues.

Consider this: If a person truly believes something that is impossible or unlikely, like ‘the Lizard Lords control our government’, are they lying or simply delusional, having a lose grip on reality?
 
LV426 said:
I agree. I think nearly all of them fall into this camp. They are desperate to be included and desperate for success, so they attach themselves to Trump and live vicariously through him. That's why they take things so personally.
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Yep, you nailed it. And since when have we known TrumpTards to tell the truth about anything? If there's anything they've learned from Trump, it's how to lie and deny. Imagine having Trump as your idol, your mentor, role model.
It truly IS the Bizarro World in Trumpville.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
Eh, they're in the minority. But they tend to find political forums like this one and rant and rave to make them think they're really in the majority.

Sad, isn't it.
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Agreed generally, but it’s a large minority. Consider that 30% of the 140Mish voters in 2020 are Republicans, about 42M about half of whom are male (21M) and half of them won’t get a vaccination. Over 10M idiots who believe masks don’t work and that vaccinations contain tracking devices. Sure, that’s a minority but they’re an influential minority.

Yes, it’s sad. IMO, simple stupidity accounts for part of it but a failure of leadership accounts for the majority of it.
 
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