Would You Run For High Office?

cawacko

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One of my best friends mom's has been mentioned as a possible candidate to challenge Harry Reid in Nevada. I think it was more a case of a reporter trying to create a story but when I talked to my boy the first thing we both said is why the f*ck would you want to go through that? And politicians are truly scum why work in that environment? I know people like the power but I don't get it.
 
One of my best friends mom's has been mentioned as a possible candidate to challenge Harry Reid in Nevada. I think it was more a case of a reporter trying to create a story but when I talked to my boy the first thing we both said is why the f*ck would you want to go through that? And politicians are truly scum why work in that environment? I know people like the power but I don't get it.

I have a girlfriend running for public office in Olympia. Her experience so far is pretty positive with regards to the people she is working with and the political personas she has gotten to know. Though it is likely due to the fact that it is not high office, but a local gig. One thing she has had a complaint about is just how difficult campaign laws make it for the average citizen to run for office. Fortunately for her she has two very seasoned politicians helping her to navigate the laws and red tape.
 
I have a girlfriend running for public office in Olympia. Her experience so far is pretty positive with regards to the people she is working with and the political personas she has gotten to know. Though it is likely due to the fact that it is not high office, but a local gig. One thing she has had a complaint about is just how difficult campaign laws make it for the average citizen to run for office. Fortunately for her she has two very seasoned politicians helping her to navigate the laws and red tape.

Interesting. I guess I'm glad she's had a good experience as that may encourage more good people to run. To run for Senate though, against the Senate Leader, will take lots of money and very thick skin as far as what one would be subjected to.
 
Interesting. I guess I'm glad she's had a good experience as that may encourage more good people to run. To run for Senate though, against the Senate Leader, will take lots of money and very thick skin as far as what one would be subjected to.

Is your friend's mom challenging Reid within the party or is she a republican?
 
Is your friend's mom challenging Reid within the party or is she a republican?

She's a Republican so obviously she would have to win a Republican primary. She was appointed to two national positions by the Bush Adminstration.
 
She's a Republican so obviously she would have to win a Republican primary. She was appointed to two national positions by the Bush Adminstration.

Impressive resume`. I think Nevada has a very good chance of ousting Reid. I heard some scuttlebutt that some PAC is pouring a lot of money into the race down there to get rid of him. You heard any such rumor?
 
Impressive resume`. I think Nevada has a very good chance of ousting Reid. I heard some scuttlebutt that some PAC is pouring a lot of money into the race down there to get rid of him. You heard any such rumor?

Interesting, no I haven't. I was trying to ask my friend this morning for more info but he's being kind of tight lipped about it. I have to imagine the Republicans must think there's at least an opportunity to go after Reid's seat.
 
One of my best friends mom's has been mentioned as a possible candidate to challenge Harry Reid in Nevada. I think it was more a case of a reporter trying to create a story but when I talked to my boy the first thing we both said is why the f*ck would you want to go through that? And politicians are truly scum why work in that environment? I know people like the power but I don't get it.
It's an ugly thankless job dude but someone's gotta do it. That's why it's euphemismisticly called "public service".
 
One of my best friends mom's has been mentioned as a possible candidate to challenge Harry Reid in Nevada. I think it was more a case of a reporter trying to create a story but when I talked to my boy the first thing we both said is why the f*ck would you want to go through that? And politicians are truly scum why work in that environment? I know people like the power but I don't get it.

I'd rather not be a tool.
 
I'm actually of the opinion that the vast majority of people who are legislators and government officials are good people trying to do work that will be valued by other people who support them. As a whole, they appear to perform disgracefully, and there are some good reasons that we think so, but on an individual level, I'm sure there is more good than bad.

That doesn't mean I will agree with all of their ideas, but I really think if you believe in what you are doing, and you are personally, professionally and financially ready to undertake a campaign and all that comes with it, you should do it.

My position is, why not you? If it's not you, it will be someone else. If you think you're the best person for the job who could run, why would you subject your fellow citizens to any less?

Lots of people try to campaign who aren't ready to campaign, or don't have a good enough reason for enough other people (volunteers, voters, the media, etc.) to acknowledge the importance of their campaign. Or they're just not the right person to carry the message.

The prime example that stays with me is when I was tight with the LP, and I would see these virtual paper candidates go around telling people how they should be elected because they were going to protect everyone's liberty better than the kind of government they have now (be it local, state, federal, etc).

The people who vote might care about liberty in an abstract way, but in practice their votes are presently related to job creation, road construction, the cost of living, etc.

I would never want to run for office not being sure I'm in at least in a position to have the opportunity to make the difference I would want to make.
 
I don't think that most people who run for office really do make any difference, even if they win. Mostly they're just tools or charismatics fronts for lobbyists and pollsters.
 
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I don't think that most people who run for office really do make any difference, even if they when. Mostly they're just tools or charismatics fronts for lobbyists and pollsters.

Lots of laws are passed all the time that have some impact, good or bad. I'm sure one person will say a difference that an elected leader made was good, and another will say it's bad.

People who are elected try to do things that the people who support them will like, or sometimes, that the person introducing the law may be personally interested in.

Some legislators come to office with things they care about and they make that a staple of their work, while voting nominally on other issues. There really isn't a right or wrong way to go about it as long as you can go to the people who elected you, explain what you did for them, and get another chance to do it again.
 
Even if the when.

Yeah, that's one of the most bizarre places where my habit of replacing written words with syllables that sound the same but use different letters has come out.
 
I'm actually of the opinion that the vast majority of people who are legislators and government officials are good people trying to do work that will be valued by other people who support them. As a whole, they appear to perform disgracefully, and there are some good reasons that we think so, but on an individual level, I'm sure there is more good than bad.

That doesn't mean I will agree with all of their ideas, but I really think if you believe in what you are doing, and you are personally, professionally and financially ready to undertake a campaign and all that comes with it, you should do it.

My position is, why not you? If it's not you, it will be someone else. If you think you're the best person for the job who could run, why would you subject your fellow citizens to any less?

Lots of people try to campaign who aren't ready to campaign, or don't have a good enough reason for enough other people (volunteers, voters, the media, etc.) to acknowledge the importance of their campaign. Or they're just not the right person to carry the message.

The prime example that stays with me is when I was tight with the LP, and I would see these virtual paper candidates go around telling people how they should be elected because they were going to protect everyone's liberty better than the kind of government they have now (be it local, state, federal, etc).

The people who vote might care about liberty in an abstract way, but in practice their votes are presently related to job creation, road construction, the cost of living, etc.

I would never want to run for office not being sure I'm in at least in a position to have the opportunity to make the difference I would want to make.

I tend to agree with you. I think most get into politics because they think they can do better than those that went before. Being from IL I think most think they'll avoid the taint that consumes nearly all. They fail, when elected. Not because they are intrinsically bad, but because of what it takes to be re-elected. Trust me, they get 'hooked.' Power, prestige, women, men; doesn't matter, they are deified in their own little world.
 
Interesting, no I haven't. I was trying to ask my friend this morning for more info but he's being kind of tight lipped about it. I have to imagine the Republicans must think there's at least an opportunity to go after Reid's seat.

Reid has money and power. Running against him will be a bitter fight for anyone who tries, but the GOP has a wind behind them with congressional seats coming open according to poll data.

It would be kind of fun to have a poster we know have a connection to such an important race...keep us posted!
 
Reid has money and power. Running against him will be a bitter fight for anyone who tries, but the GOP has a wind behind them with congressional seats coming open according to poll data.

It would be kind of fun to have a poster we know have a connection to such an important race...keep us posted!

Yeah, I will. From a selfish perspective I hope she runs because it would be cool to get the inside scoop. I have no idea right now if she will other than I know my friend doesn't want her to run.
 
May. 19, 2009
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

Poll: Reid's re-election numbers don't add up

By MOLLY BALL
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
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CARSON CITY -- Nearly half of Nevadans have had enough of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid as the powerful Democrat heads into his re-election campaign, a new Las Vegas Review-Journal poll finds.
About a third of the state's voters would re-elect Reid if the 2010 election were held today, according to the poll, but 45 percent say they would definitely vote to replace him. Seventeen percent would consider another candidate.
The findings are echoed by another poll question about Reid's popularity that finds the four-term incumbent to be a polarizing figure in his home state.
Half of Nevada voters had an unfavorable view of Reid, while 38 percent had a favorable view and 11 percent a neutral opinion.
The statewide poll of 625 Nevadans who vote regularly was conducted by telephone last week by Washington-based Mason-Dixon Polling & Research Inc. for the Review-Journal. It carries a margin of error of 4 percentage points in either direction.
Reid's approval ratings at home have been subpar for years, particularly since he ascended to Democratic leader in 2004 and to majority leader in 2006.
He had hoped things might improve with the departure of President George W. Bush, but that's not the case, at least not yet. The poll finds Nevadans are bullish on President Barack Obama even as they are unhappy with Reid.
Fifty-five percent of those polled viewed Obama favorably, while 30 percent saw him unfavorably and 15 percent were neutral on the new Democratic president, who carried Nevada in last year's presidential election by 12 percentage points after years of Republican dominance in the state.
Mason-Dixon Managing Partner Brad Coker said for now, Obama is enjoying a honeymoon with voters, while Reid still gets stuck with people's negative views of Congress.
"Obama so far has been able to stay out of the fray and let Reid and (House Speaker Nancy) Pelosi get their hands dirty," he said. "Obama's so popular, he's a hard person to take a shot at right now, so Reid and Pelosi become the punching bags."
Nonetheless, Coker said, Reid can expect to capitalize on Obama's popularity down the line if it lasts -- and to pay the price if the president's political standing takes a turn for the worse.
"Reid's fortunes are going to hinge on two things: Does he draw a strong challenger, and what does the economy do," Coker said. "If Obama and his policies are seen as a success and the economy by mid-2010 appears to be doing better, these numbers will turn around some. The other side of that coin is, if the economy doesn't seem to be improving, particularly in Nevada," Reid could have a tough time.
No major opponent has yet stepped up to face Reid.
Reid's campaign manager said the senator does not pay much attention to polls.
"The primary number Senator Reid is worried about is Nevada's 10.4 percent unemployment rate, and that's why he's focused on fixing the economy and creating jobs in Nevada," Brandon Hall said. "Polling numbers move up and down. The only poll that really matters is on Election Day."
Feelings about Reid were somewhat split along party lines, though more than a third of his own partisans weren't sold on the senator.
Some 61 percent of Democrats, 7 percent of Republicans and 30 percent of independent voters said they would vote to re-elect Reid.
Among Republicans, 71 percent would definitely vote against Reid, a sentiment shared by 20 percent of Democrats and 50 percent of independents.
Reid's strongest support was in liberal-leaning Clark County, where 39 percent want to see him re-elected and 42 percent want to replace him. Thirty percent of Washoe County voters and 24 percent of rural Nevadans plan to vote for Reid, while 50 percent and 54 percent, respectively, would vote against him.
A partisan split also was seen on the question of whether Nevadans believe Obama's economic stimulus plan is working.
Overall, 37 percent said yes, 42 percent said no and 21 percent weren't sure. But Democrats were heavily on the "yes" side, 59 percent to 18 percent, while Republicans said "no," 69 percent to 14 percent. Independents favored "no" by a narrower margin, 46 percent to 29 percent.
"The jury is still out," Coker said. With most of the stimulus money not yet even released, the numbers might have been different if the question was not whether it's working but whether people approve of it as a policy.
"The numbers are mixed and it's split along party lines," he said. "Twenty-one percent are saying, 'We don't know yet.' We'll track this and see how it changes."
Reid's fellow Nevadan in the Senate, Republican John Ensign, continues to enjoy high marks from voters, with 53 percent viewing him favorably and 18 percent unfavorably.
Another member of the state's delegation who's often mentioned as a potential Reid challenger, Rep. Dean Heller, was unknown or neutrally viewed by a majority of voters. Thirty percent viewed him favorably, 15 percent unfavorably.
Contact reporter Molly Ball at mball@reviewjournal.com or 702-387-2919.
http://www.lvrj.com/news/45387987.html

Reid has money and power. Running against him will be a bitter fight for anyone who tries, but the GOP has a wind behind them with congressional seats coming open according to poll data.

It would be kind of fun to have a poster we know have a connection to such an important race...keep us posted!
 
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That seat is definitely weak. We don't need a majority leader in a weak seat. He will be beholden to conservative voters to hold back certain necessary changes that would make him look bad to retarded conservatives, and it's a massive embarrassment if he loses. If he doesn't step down, they should force him out.
 
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