Dehumanization of white men

[Damocles]

Oh I see.

Well. I think adding a couple protected classes would be easier than scrapping the whole thing, though I would prefer that option as well.

You should stay open to all possibilities which would eliminate actual discrimination, instead of pigeonholing yourself into only one possible option, which could also, not happen.

I'm open to both options. you're limited by some unseen idiotic force.

The problem is you don't listen at all.

Reality:

1. Some people in power on both the left and right promote the idea of changing AA to focus on economic indicators rather than "race".

2. Nobody in power suggests the inclusion of white men as a protected class.

Pragmatic view:

Idea 1 has a higher probability of passing.

Your view:

We must continue the fight to get white men protected beyond all practical possibility and regardless because I believe it is "easier" to do what nobody supports than it is to add my support to what others promote.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

The problem is you don't listen at all.

Reality:

1. Some people in power on both the left and right promote the idea of changing AA to focus on economic indicators rather than "race".

2. Nobody in power suggests the inclusion of white men as a protected class.

Pragmatic view:

Idea 1 has a higher probability of passing.

Your view:

We must continue the fight to get white men protected beyond all practical possibility and regardless because I believe it is "easier" to do what nobody supports than it is to add my support to what others promote.

Your problem is your too much on the cock of the powerful and can't even think straight.

I believe it's just as practical to add protected classes as it is to get the whole scrapped. I'm flexible and am open to many options. You're stuck on one. You don't know "what's possible", because you're not psychic. Are you?

Are you a psychic friend?

 

[Damocles]

Your problem is your too much on the cock of the powerful and can't even think straight.

I believe it's just as practical to add protected classes as it is to get the whole scrapped. I'm flexible and am open to many options. You're stuck on one. You don't know "what's possible", because you're not psychic. Are you?

Are you a psychic friend?

It isn't practical because it receives nothing but derision from those elected. It isn't going to happen, it isn't "pragmatic" to keep fighting the windmill after you realize it isn't a giant.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

It isn't practical because it receives nothing but derision from those elected. It isn't going to happen, it isn't "pragmatic" to keep fighting the windmill after you realize it isn't a giant.

I haven't seen anyone but you deriding the concept of merely adding protections for white men that exist for everryon else. I've never seen it discussed anywhere.

Again, your argument is based on magically knowing the future. That makes it bad.

I will continue advocating my idea. You can continue sticking to your all or nothing idiocy. I will be pragmatic in actually eliminating actual discrimination, something more important than the symbol tree you worship.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Let's add whites and males as a protected class. And if any new races or genders are discovered they can be added as well.

The system of the racial dividers can be used to grant equal protection under the law, merely by adding more races to the list of protected classes. This is a good idea. I will continue to advocate it.

Discussing this solution actually throws light on how the system currently works, by defining protected classes, and LEAVING OUT the new victims, white males.

 

[uscitizen]

Protected classes? Isn't that more of the same you despise AH?

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Protected classes? Isn't that more of the same you despise AH?

I would prefer to see it scrapped altogether, but if all individuals are protected by adding the obvious missing demographics, then I would be satisfied. At least the ongoing systemic discrimination would cease.

 

[Damocles]

I haven't seen anyone but you deriding the concept of merely adding protections for white men that exist for everryon else. I've never seen it discussed anywhere.

Again, your argument is based on magically knowing the future. That makes it bad.

I will continue advocating my idea. You can continue sticking to your all or nothing idiocy. I will be pragmatic in actually eliminating actual discrimination, something more important than the symbol tree you worship.

No, my argument is based on actual knowledge of what people talk about, cited earlier, and not built on wish power like yours, it is why your "pragmatism" is in question.

And if you haven't seen people deriding you for saying that white men are discriminated against then you live and breathe in a place different from this reality, your own threads here are enough evidence of the derision heaped upon your idea of adding white men as a protected class. While there are some lefties, even here, who would entertain the idea of socio-economic status over race. Standing around with your hands over your ears and saying "Lalalalala!" really loudly still won't change what is really "pragmatic".

 

[Sammy Jankis]

No, my argument is based on actual knowledge of what people talk about, cited earlier, and not built on wish power like yours, it is why your "pragmatism" is in question.

And if you haven't seen people deriding you for saying that white men are discriminated against then you live and breathe in a place different from this reality, your own threads here are enough evidence of the derision heaped upon your idea of adding white men as a protected class. While there are some lefties, even here, who would entertain the idea of socio-economic status over race. Standing around with your hands over your ears and saying "Lalalalala!" really loudly still won't change what is really "pragmatic".

No. I haven't seen people deriding the concept of adding whites and males as a protected class.

You still can't predict the future.

We'll do a two pronged attack. You keep working with the popular kids to eradicate the whole program; I wish you luck. I'll continue with a second effort to achieve actual justice by getting all known races and genders protected. You can wish me failure if you like. I will persist in my efforts regardless, and you can continue to be an ass about my honest efforts, rational solutions, and pragmatic can do-ism.

 

[Damocles]

No. I haven't seen people deriding the concept of adding whites and males as a protected class.

You still can't predict the future.

We'll do a two pronged attack. You keep working with the popular kids to eradicate the whole program; I wish you luck. I'll continue with a second effort to achieve actual justice by getting all known races and genders protected. You can wish me failure if you like. I will persist in my efforts regardless, and you can continue to be an ass about my honest efforts, rational solutions, and pragmatic can do-ism.

Dumb as a post. Replacing one aspect of the program with a different aspect is not "eradicating" the program, it is a pragmatic approach with a viable chance of success. Unlike the magical whimsy of the white protected class. Each time you post one of those threads about 70 liberals jump in (I know a bit of exaggeration) to tell you how retarded it is and how being white is fantasmagorically just "super". You aren't getting them added as a protected class, not with that kind of derision.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Dumb as a post.

Yes, you are.

Replacing one aspect of the program with a different aspect is not "eradicating" the program, it is a pragmatic approach with a viable chance of success.

I wish you success.

Unlike the magical whimsy of the white protected class. Each time you post one of those threads about 70 liberals jump in (I know a bit of exaggeration) to tell you how retarded it is and how being white is fantasmagorically just "super". You aren't getting them added as a protected class, not with that kind of derision.

The magical whimsy of equal protection for white individuals? Justice is more than whimsy.

The only person throwing a hissy here is you, beesnahtch.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

How is an HR department at a company going to implement a NEEDS BASED policy to replace affirmative action?

Presumably, everyone applying for the jobs NEEDS them to survive.

Seriously.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

beesnahtch (bee snotch) urban slang. Bitch.

Lexically similar to "shiznit".

 

[Damocles]

Yes, you are.

I wish you success.



The magical whimsy of equal protection for white individuals? Justice is more than whimsy.

The only person throwing a hissy here is you, beesnahtch.

The magical whimsy of a rejected and constantly derided dream. You are so lost in the fantasy you cannot even see direct evidence before your eyes. Start up another "White dudes are downtrodden" thread, see what the reaction is.

Tell me! In your magical world where derision equals support do the unicorns eat berries and poop flowers?

 

[Sammy Jankis]

The magical whimsy of a rejected and constantly derided dream. You are so lost in the fantasy you cannot even see direct evidence before your eyes. Start up another "White dudes are downtrodden" thread, see what the reaction is.

Tell me! In your magical world where derision equals support do the unicorns eat berries and poop flowers?

You're the only one deriding it. Seriously.


SO how does an hr department determine need, when all applicants are conceivabley needful of the employment?


I realized you care nothing about the ongoing discriminiation against white males. You just are giving lip service, like you did on dates with your dad.

 

[blackascoal]

:lmao:

 

[Damocles]

You're the only one deriding it. Seriously.


SO how does an hr department determine need, when all applicants are conceivabley needful of the employment?


I realized you care nothing about the ongoing discriminiation against white males. You just are giving lip service, like you did on dates with your dad.

No, I'm not deriding the idea, I am deriding your "pragmatism" to support an idea that is under constant derision.

Shoot, sarcastic copy threads are made, then people come in to tell you how great being white is and how your idea that they are discriminated against is stupid.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

No, I'm not deriding the idea, I am deriding your "pragmatism" to support an idea that is under constant derision.

Shoot, sarcastic copy threads are made, then people come in to tell you how great being white is and how your idea that they are discriminated against is stupid.

I don't base my ideas on what racists do or do not deride. Evidently you do, and that's sad.

 

[Damocles]

I don't base my ideas on what racists do or do not deride. Evidently you do, and that's sad.

I define pragmatism by what is possible. Obviously you don't.

You are again living in the fantasy. "Nope, those are just racists." They aren't. They are the people you would have to convince. Instead you get derision and attacks and refuse to recognize them because you think your idea is the only way to go, then try to take pride in your "pragmatism".

What you have isn't pragmatism, it is ignorance of reality.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

I define pragmatism by what is possible. Obviously you don't.

You are again living in the fantasy. "Nope, those are just racists." They aren't. They are the people you would have to convince. Instead you get derision and attacks and refuse to recognize them because you think your idea is the only way to go, then try to take pride in your "pragmatism".

What you have isn't pragmatism, it is ignorance of reality.

You don't know what's possible and impossible.


You should probably shut up once your arguments rely solely on a bizarre claim to know the future.