More Protected Classes = Justice

Sammy Jankis

Sammy Jankis

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As a remedy to the current discrimination against white males by various Affirmative Action policies, Causcasian and Male should be added to the list of protected classes. This is a convenient way to eliminate the discriminatory effect of the program, and to achieve equal protection under the law for all individuals.

It's a good idea. And, the discussion throws a light on how the system currently works, by defining protected classes.
 
AssHatZombie said:
As a remedy to the current discrimination against white males by various Affirmative Action policies, Causcasian and Male should be added to the list of protected classes. This is a convenient way to eliminate the discriminatory effect of the program, and to achieve equal protection under the law for all individuals.

It's a good idea. And, the discussion throws a light on how the system currently works, by defining protected classes.
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Where is the this "list of protected classes" that you want caucasian and male added to?
 
Dungheap said:
It was a fairly simple question, where is the list?

Here's another one: Used by whom?
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I'll help him out. Protected classes he is speaking of here, are those used to determine if a company is following the Affirmative Action laws.

They are used by courts and employers when determining if a company is following the Affirmative Action guidelines.

Here is the rules set by just such an employer, while they do not have a "list" of the protected classes, it often refers to the term. Are white males considered a protected class?

http://www.udel.edu/Labor/X4-01.htm
 
Dungheap said:
It was a fairly simple question, where is the list?

Here's another one: Used by whom?
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It's used by hr departments, lawyers, judges, etc, as a guide when dealing with discrimination claims, or hiring programs.

I shan't be hunting down the list until you deny it exists. There's no point in doing so unless it's to make you look flat ass ignorant.
 
This is great! First AH wanted to do away with affirmative action because of how wrong it is and now he wants in on it.

I am loving it.
 
uscitizen said:
This is great! First AH wanted to do away with affirmative action because of how wrong it is and now he wants in on it.

I am loving it.
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I want discrimination to end. That can be achieved through eliminating the progam, or covering individuals of all known races and genders. I have no problem with it if it has no actual effect.
 
affirmative action is not "reverse racism" - it's RACISM. "reverse racism" is just cognitive dissonance.
 
uscitizen said:
This is great! First AH wanted to do away with affirmative action because of how wrong it is and now he wants in on it.

I am loving it.
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he's totally explained the reasoning and it makes sense. You just look like you're losing the argument so you try mocking. didn't work. You just look stupid for not being able to follow a clear explanation
 
From Damo's link:

1. Definition of Protected Class Members

Protected class members are individuals identified under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act as amended and Executive Order 11246. The following groups are considered to be "protected" under operative equal opportunity and affirmative action legislation:

Minorities--All persons classified as Black, Hispanic, Asian/ Pacific Islander, American Indian or Alaskan native.

American Indian or Alaskan Native-A person with origins in any of the original peoples of North America who maintains cultural identification through tribal affiliation, community or self-recognition.

Asian/Pacific Islander-A person with origins in any of the peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, the Indian Subcontinent or the Pacific Islands.

Black-A person not of Hispanic origin, i.e., with origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa.

Hispanic-A person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, South American or other Spanish culture or origin.

Disabled Individual--Persons with disabilities-Any person who:

1. Has a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more of his or her major life activities,
2. Has a record of such impairment or
3. Is regarded as having such impairment.

A disability is substantially limiting if it is likely to cause difficulty in securing, retaining or advancing in employment.
Women

Veterans
Qualified Disabled Veteran-A disabled veteran who is capable of performing a particular job with reasonable accommodation to his or her disability. Veteran of the Vietnam Era-A person who served on active duty for a period of more than 180 days, any part of which occurred between August 5, 1964 and May 7, 1975, and was discharged or released therefrom with other than a dishonorable discharge; or who was discharged or released from active duty for a service-connected disability if any part of such active duty was performed between August 5, 1964 and May 7, 1975.
Age
All persons who are 40 years of age or older.



White men are not in the protected class
 
Thanks tinfoil.

HR departments are always safer hiring the minority over the white man, anyone else could file a discrimination suit. White men are a safe victim. The only individuals denied equal protection under the law are white males. This is blatantly unconstitutional.
 
∂˚;454884 said:
affirmative action is not "reverse racism" - it's RACISM. "reverse racism" is just cognitive dissonance.
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yes. Quite right, mysterious symbol person. May I call you mysterious symbol person?
 
AssHatZombie said:
Thanks tinfoil.

HR departments are always safer hiring the minority over the white man, anyone else could file a discrimination suit. White men are a safe victim. The only individuals denied equal protection under the law are white males. This is blatantly unconstitutional.
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White men are protected under anti-discrimination legislation. Title VII includes race (not black, pacific islander etc.) and sex (not female) among the classifications that employers may not use to discriminate against employees or prospective employees.

With respect to affirmative action, you are correct that white males are not included among those classes eligible for affirmative action consideration. By including white males you pretty much eviscerate the purpose of AA, which I suppose is the point. But why dress it up this way. Just argue against AA. There are plenty of good arguments against it.
 
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