The honor system is a failure because Republicans are liars

[gfm7175]

Everyone knows you can still contract COVID if you're vaccinated.

Then what good is a COVID jab?

The difference is that when you do, you're not developing severe symptoms.

I likewise don't develop severe symptoms whenever I get sick (which is a very rare occurrence). It's called a healthy immune system.

If you want to kill yourself, fine. I'm not going to stop you.

Nah. I'm quite happy being alive.

In fact, I'll happily assist you in killing yourself in any way I can.

By what, cheering me on? No need... I'm quite happy being alive.

See? I am an accommodating guy after all!

No, it's just more evidence that you aren't.

 

[LV426]

Then what good is a COVID jab?

It prevents you from getting severe symptoms that lands you in the hospital with a tube down your throat.

But...maybe you like having things shoved down your throat? You do talk about it an awful lot...

 

[LV426]

I likewise don't develop severe symptoms whenever I get sick (which is a very rare occurrence). It's called a healthy immune system.

OK.

Then rely on your body.

I'm not going to stop you from trying to kill yourself because I've been encouraging you to kill yourself this whole time.

So you're already doing what I want you to do...thanks.

 

[LV426]

Nah. I'm quite happy being alive.

Really? The impression I get from you is that you're miserable and you want everyone else to be as miserable as you so you don't feel as lonely.

That's the energy you're putting out to the world.

 

[LV426]

By what, cheering me on? No need... I'm quite happy being alive.

Sure! If that's what you want I'm happy to cheer on your suicide from the sidelines...just don't pussy out and get the vaccine like a little bitch and not tell anyone.

 

[LV426]

No, it's just more evidence that you aren't.

What do you mean? I'm totally willing to accommodate your suicidal death wish.

I'll provide you with whatever you need...I won't spare any expense.

I'll happily be the guy who hands you the loaded gun.

 

[Nordberg]

Some people who have been vaccinated are getting the Repub Covid strain. They have much better results and are far less sick and far, far less likely to have a serious illness. The vaccination works on that too. Of course, the stats that show 95 percent of the new Covid cases are unvaccinated does not matter to rightys who grasp at irrelevancies instead of abandoning their mistaken beliefs.
Get the vaccination. Even Red leaders say it can save your lives.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

So? They still contracted COVID anyway... Why should I get a vaccine that doesn't work?

A vaccine is forced exposure to a weakened pathogen (rather than natural/environmental exposure to the "real deal"). Regardless of forced or natural exposure, the body's immune system will appropriately respond to the presence of the pathogen (very simplistically speaking, antigens mark cells and viruses for destruction and white blood cells then perform the destruction).

Incorrect... The immune system is continuously working, continuously identifying and destroying cells and viruses. It's not like it just rests on its laurels until infection occurs.

No, it means that vaccinated people still have viruses and cells inside their bodies in need of flagging and destruction. That is not the same thing as infection.

They've just been forcefully exposed to a weakened pathogen rather than naturally exposed to a "full strength" pathogen.

Again, those all sound like your issues, not mine.

That has to be some of the most ignorant bullshit I have ever seen. Somehow you think a virus can be in the body but the virus can't be in the body at the same time.
A positive Covid test means that the virus is in the person's body. It doesn't test how sick the person is or how many cells are infected.
The immune system can only work on viruses in the person's body. The fact that a person tests positive for the Corona virus says nothing about how their body is responding to that virus. How sick the person is and what symptoms are occurring is what tells us how bad the infection is.

Simple question for you. Is there such a thing as an asymptomatic infection?

 

[gfm7175]

That has to be some of the most ignorant bullshit I have ever seen.

I think that about many of your posts, yes...

Somehow you think a virus can be in the body but the virus can't be in the body at the same time.

Nope, I just recognize the difference between a virus being present inside of one's body and an infection.

A positive Covid test means that the virus is in the person's body.

A positive COVID test is largely meaningless, since such tests are inaccurate anyway, but even assuming that they WERE accurate, it just means that the virus was found inside the person's body. That is not necessarily an infection (or a "case").

It doesn't test how sick the person is or how many cells are infected.

Exactly what I'm saying. Thank you.

The immune system can only work on viruses in the person's body. The fact that a person tests positive for the Corona virus says nothing about how their body is responding to that virus.

Exactly what I'm saying. Thank you.

How sick the person is and what symptoms are occurring is what tells us how bad the infection is.[/quote]
... or if there's even any infection to begin with.

Simple question for you. Is there such a thing as an asymptomatic infection?

No. It's just fear mongering. An "asymptomatic" person is more commonly referred to as a healthy person.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Nope, I just recognize the difference between a virus being present inside of one's body and an infection.


A positive COVID test is largely meaningless, since such tests are inaccurate anyway, but even assuming that they WERE accurate, it just means that the virus was found inside the person's body. That is not necessarily an infection (or a "case").

So basically you are agreeing that your argument that people that have got the vaccine have been infected if they test positive for the Corona virus is complete bullshit since you understand the virus in the body doesn't mean infection and you think the Covid test is meaningless.

 

[Concart]

That has to be some of the most ignorant bullshit I have ever seen. Somehow you think a virus can be in the body but the virus can't be in the body at the same time.
A positive Covid test means that the virus is in the person's body. It doesn't test how sick the person is or how many cells are infected.
The immune system can only work on viruses in the person's body. The fact that a person tests positive for the Corona virus says nothing about how their body is responding to that virus. How sick the person is and what symptoms are occurring is what tells us how bad the infection is.

Simple question for you. Is there such a thing as an asymptomatic infection?

He doesn't know how the MRNA works, so why bother. mRNA technology does not use a 'weakened pathogen'. It provides instructions to the body to create a spike protein using its own cells. There is no virus in the mRNA vaccines. GFM/ITN/IBD is a know nothing knuckle dragging moron. He doesn't even understand the basics.

 

[gfm7175]

So basically you are agreeing that your argument that people that have got the vaccine have been infected if they test positive for the Corona virus is complete bullshit since you understand the virus in the body doesn't mean infection and you think the Covid test is meaningless.

You really can't follow along through a dialogue, can you?

 

[serenity]

Easy exercise in logic. Walk into a store. No one is wearing a mask even though it is required for the unvaccinated. Unless everyone in every store is vaccinated, the unvaccinated people (most of whom are Republicans) can't be trusted to tell the truth and the follow the rules. So the only answer is to demand proof. Time for vaccine passports. Republicans are selfish, dishonest, and treasonous. They cannot be trusted with anything.

Discuss.

lets reverse this with documented citizen of USA.

 

[gfm7175]

He doesn't know how the MRNA works, so why bother.

There is no "the mRNA". I have no clue what you are referring to.

mRNA technology does not use a 'weakened pathogen'. It provides instructions to the body to create a spike protein using its own cells. There is no virus in the mRNA vaccines.

Is the "spike protein" being created not found on COVID?

GFM/ITN/IBD

So you're seeing sock people too, eh?

is a know nothing knuckle dragging moron. He doesn't even understand the basics.

You describe yourself quite well.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

You really can't follow along through a dialogue, can you?

Did I not provide an example of a sizable number of "fully vaccinated" people who still contracted COVID?

A positive COVID test is largely meaningless, since such tests are inaccurate anyway, but even assuming that they WERE accurate, it just means that the virus was found inside the person's body. That is not necessarily an infection (or a "case").

Are the above statements both from you?

Explain how you provided an example of anyone contracting Covid if the test is meaningless. Not only can I read your statements, I can see the contradictions in your idiocy.

 

[gfm7175]

Explain how you provided an example of anyone contracting Covid if the test is meaningless.

I said that the tests (PCR tests) are largely meaningless, due to being inaccurate. That's not the political left's views on those tests... Are those handfuls of TX reps and WH aides not said to have COVID??

Not only can I read your statements, I can see the contradictions in your idiocy.

The idiocy is not mine. It belongs to the political left.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

I said that the tests (PCR tests) are largely meaningless, due to being inaccurate. That's not the political left's views on those tests... Are those handfuls of TX reps and WH aides not said to have COVID??


The idiocy is not mine. It belongs to the political left.

If the tests are inaccurate then how did you provide any examples of anyone being vaccinated and then getting the virus? You can't have it both ways.

 

[Wolverine]

So you want to go door to door and give every single person a voter ID card at no cost?

You don't?

So shut the fuck up then.

Why do I need to go door to door idiot?

 

[LV426]

Why do I need to go door to door idiot?

Because that's the only fair way to do it...so that people don't have to incur an expense to get to the facility.

If you're not willing to go door to door and give everyone a Voter ID card, then it's never been about stopping voter fraud.

It's only been about suppressing votes so that Conservatism doesn't need to change any of its failed and flawed policies and ideology in order to legitimately win an election.

 

[Wolverine]

Because that's the only fair way to do it...so that people don't have to incur an expense to get to the facility.

If you're not willing to go door to door and give everyone a Voter ID card, then it's never been about stopping voter fraud; it's only been about suppressing votes so that Conservatism doesn't need to change any of its failed and flawed policies and ideology.

Voting is a privilege, they already get their welfare check mailed to them, now you want to go door to door to beg them to get proper identification? Most already have a drivers license and you know how many illegals we will deport when we find out they are illegal going door to door and then there goes your base!