Evangelicals fume as GOP surrenders in gay marriage wars

[Dutch Uncle]

Then show me the wording!

Make it worth my while, Matt, or look up the SCOTUS decision yourself.

The fact remains if a case reaches SCOTUS, they are the highest court to determine if something is in keeping with the Constitution or not. Have problem with it? Read their summary be it gay marriage, slavery or abortion.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

The social meaning of "marriage" should be entirely irrelevant under the law.

A civil union between two people brings with it certain legal implications and advantages.
The gender of the two people is irrelevant in that if two people can acquire these legal considerations,
than ANY two people should be able to acquire them.

 

[Wolverine]

Make it worth my while, Matt, or look up the SCOTUS decision yourself.

The fact remains if a case reaches SCOTUS, they are the highest court to determine if something is in keeping with the Constitution or not. Have problem with it? Read their summary be it gay marriage, slavery or abortion.

Nah, no need it's not in the constitution, and they should have never ruled on it in any way!

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The social meaning of "marriage" should be entirely irrelevant under the law.

A civil union between two people brings with it certain legal implications and advantages.
The gender of the two people is irrelevant in that if two people can acquire these legal considerations,
than ANY two people should be able to acquire them.

Agreed. "Marriage" is a religious term. What the government does isn't sanctify marriage; they create a legal bond between two people for purposes of survivorship and for parental rights and obligations.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Nah, no need it's not in the constitution, and they should have never ruled on it in any way!

Awesome. Now we're back to your pinheaded view of reality.

 

[Wolverine]

Awesome. Now we're back to your pinheaded view of reality.

Now we are back to you not showing me the wording!

 

[Wolverine]

Agreed. "Marriage" is a religious term. What the government does isn't sanctify marriage; they create a legal bond between two people for purposes of survivorship and for parental rights and obligations.

The Government had no business sanctifying anything!

 

[AProudLefty]

It's not an actual question, you think it's a gotcha question, but of course it isn't.

It isn't? So you actually chose to be straight? At what age did you decide?

 

[Wolverine]

It isn't? So you actually chose to be straight? At what age did you decide?

It is hard wired into my genetics!

 

[AProudLefty]

It is hard wired into my genetics!

Bingo. That wasn't so hard, was it?

 

[Wolverine]

Bingo. That wasn't so hard, was it?

Do you have a point other than the one on top of your head?

 

[AProudLefty]

Do you have a point other than the one on top of your head?

The point is that if being straight is "hard wired", then being gay isn't a choice. It's impossible to make that choice if it's "hard wired".

 

[Wolverine]

The point is that if being straight is "hard wired", then being gay isn't a choice. It's impossible to make that choice if it's "hard wired".

B.S it's called sin, the person is tempted, and then chooses, to engage in the sinful act of homosexuality, and gives in to temptation, and it becomes sin!

 

[AProudLefty]

B.S it's called sin, the person is tempted, and then chooses, to engage in the sinful act of homosexuality, and gives in to temptation, and it becomes sin!

Then it is not hard wired. Make up your mind.

 

[Wolverine]

Then it is not hard wired. Make up your mind.

I am not going to argue with that stupid premise!

 

[AProudLefty]

I am not going to argue with that stupid premise!

Either it's hard wired or it isn't. It's a quite simple concept.

 

[Wolverine]

Either it's hard wired or it isn't. It's a quite simple concept.

How idiotic, I am hard wired to eat for survival, and drink for survival, yet some people starve themselves to death, anorexia!

 

[AProudLefty]

How idiotic, I am hard wired to eat for survival, and drink for survival, yet some people starve themselves to death, anorexia!

How is that comparable? It makes no sense.

 

[Wolverine]

How is that comparable? It makes no sense.

B.S you know it is and I accept your surrender! Do they or do they not CHOOSE NOT TO EAT?

 

[AProudLefty]

B.S you know it is and I accept your surrender! Do they or do they not CHOOSE NOT TO EAT?

Anorexia is a disorder.

Also some do it for religious or diet reasons (fasting).