Evangelicals fume as GOP surrenders in gay marriage wars
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you are focused on only one passage
The entire context was Jesus being asked a specific question about the legality of a man divorcing his wife.
Jesus is answering a question about legality of divorce he is not giving his opinion on homosexual sex
gfm7175
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He is doing both at the same time. He is describing what marriage is and how it's supposed to work while addressing the question about the legality of divorce.
The fact that you actually thought the Gospel of Mathew was literally written by the disciple Mathew clearly indicates you have no knowledge of even rudimentary biblical scholarship, rendering any opinions you have about scriptural interpretation dubious at best.
gfm7175
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He (Jesus) is doing both at the same time. He is describing what marriage is and how it's supposed to work while addressing the question about the legality of divorce.
I cannot take your opinion seriously since you actually were unaware the Gospels were written anonomously.
This clearly means your familiarity with biblical scholarship is non existent.
gfm7175
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I never said that they weren't.
There is good reason to believe that Matthew is the author.
Now, back to what you are distracting from:
He (Jesus) is doing both at the same time. He is describing what marriage is and how it's supposed to work while addressing the question about the legality of divorce.
He says nothing about guys being sinful, and answering a question about the legality of a man divorcing a woman is not a statement about gays, let alone whether or not they are hell bound.
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Doesn't forbid anything that I can see.
Iolo/Penderyn
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I'm not Jewish. The early Church decided to use the Old Testament for some not-very-convincing prophecies and to get Jewish converts. There was opposition, which was clearly correct.
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I don't speak American Fundamentalist.
The poster defending Christianity uses an emoji that means masturbation, this is rich
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He's saying you make him horny and he's masturbating to your post.
I don't speak American Fundamentalist.
The poster defending Christianity uses an emoji that means masturbation, this is rich
Sybil is often unintentionally funny.
gfm7175
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To put what is happening here into mathematical terms, I am telling you that 2+2=4, and you are purposely ignoring the second '2' while attempting to tell me that 2≠4. IOW, you are "pretending not to know things", as any good liberal does, as liberalism depends on it.
While answering the Pharisees' question about the legality of divorce, Jesus also describes the essence of what marriage is and how it works. He makes it very clear that a man (a male) leaves his father (a male) and mother (a female) to "become one flesh" with his wife (a female). Additionally, the spiritual concept of "becoming one flesh" is physically personified via childbirth, as the DNA of both parents have now joined together to become one flesh (the child).
The physical personification of "becoming one flesh" (childbirth) is not possible in gay/lesbian relations, not even in principle. To call THIS sort of thing a "marriage", rather than solely a man and a woman (where procreation in principle is possible), is to render the whole institution of marriage completely and utterly irrelevant, as "marriage" now yields nothing different in result than being in a close friendship with someone.
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Negative, any republican who ascribes to the tolerance mantra, has been duped, it is nothing more than trying to silence speech, specifically speech that goes against whatever immoral B.S democrats are pushing at the time!
gfm7175
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It seems that you don't speak English either...
Rightwing christians elevated gay marriage to a kind of holy war; a topic so important they portray it as an existential crisis for Amerca.
Yet you had to struggle, research, quest for any evidence of infinitesimally infrequent out of context comments in the New Testament which you interpret as a condemnation of gays. An interpretation which is highly dubious, given your demostrated lacking of rudimentary knowledge of legitimate biblical scholarship.
So why the vast chasm between what bible thumpers think is such an existential priority and what Jesus thought were priorities?
gfm7175
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Nope...
It IS. Many children are getting aborted or thrown into various care systems because of this complete disregard for the sanctity of marriage.
No, I didn't. I am familiar with The Bible. I am familiar with the numerous passages throughout it which speak against homosexual relations. The New Testament has other mentions against it, but the person who I was corresponding with was asking for the manifested Jesus' words, so I provided those for him. I could provide you with Paul's words against it too if you wish... But you don't recognize the holiness of The Bible anyhow, so doing so would be futile on my part.
I never said it was a condemnation of gays. I said that it was an explanation of what marriage is and how it works. --- That explanation is then logically extended to condemn homosexuality, since homosexual relations cannot be marriage per how marriage was explained in that passage.
Your issue, not mine.
Void question.
gfm7175
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How do two people (husband and wife) become one person (in a physical sense), other than through procreation?
How do two people (husband and wife) produce fruit (children) other than through heterosexual sex?