which repub moron told me racism was dead

[blackascoal]

"disturbing the peace is a crime generally defined as the unsettling of proper order in a public space through one's actions. This can include creating loud noise by fighting or challenging to fight, disturbing others by loud and unreasonable noise (including loud music or dog barking), or using offensive words or insults likely to incite violence."

....

"Police may use a disorderly conduct charge to keep the peace when people are behaving in a disruptive manner to themselves or others, but present no serious public danger. Disorderly conduct is typically classified as a misdemeanor."

...

"Examples of Disorderly Conduct
Disorderly conduct offenses vary widely by state. Here are some of the most common acts that are considered disorderly conduct offenses:
Public drunkenness
Inciting a riot
disturbance of the peace
loitering in certain areas
fighting / physical altercations
obstructing traffic
use of extremely obscene or abusive language
loud or unreasonable noise"

they have every right to make these charges against this man.

Did you miss D?

 

[Jeff]

Dude, cops don't take to complete compliance whenever they feel like it.

A. There was no intruder and NO ONE would be screaming racism if the cops had done their job properly and simply left the mans home when he proved it was his.

It's real simple.

B. African-Americans have a VERY GOOD REASON not to trust the police .. make that a PROVEN, STUDIED, and DOCUMENTED reason not to trust the police.

That's true in spite of you working with cops.

C. The case was dismissed with the quickness because it's obvious the cop did not handle the situation properly.

BAC I agree with ya that to a degree, there is still no reason what so ever for Obama to be commenting on it

And neither you or I were there to see how shitty the professor got with the cops, and you know as well as I do that is just asking for trouble

As I read it the cop was trained in racial situations and is a leader to other officers

Forget the color of the guys skin , isn't it possible that some rich guy thought he was above the law?

And again Obama should never of put his 2 cents in, I didn't hear his comment on the guy that was killing people in SC???

 

[blackascoal]

BAC I agree with ya that to a degree, there is still no reason what so ever for Obama to be commenting on it

And neither you or I were there to see how shitty the professor got with the cops, and you know as well as I do that is just asking for trouble

As I read it the cop was trained in racial situations and is a leader to other officers

Forget the color of the guys skin , isn't it possible that some rich guy thought he was above the law?

And again Obama should never of put his 2 cents in, I didn't hear his comment on the guy that was killing people in SC???

Obama is a politician and he's doing what politicians do. He knows many African-Americans are starting to see him as a pussy on race and this was his response to it .. no differently than when he was pushed to respond to Jena 6.

It doesn't make any difference what this cop was trained in or for .. I can bet you a dollar to a donut he was talked to by his superiors and told how he could have handled this better.

Is it possible that a police officer held animosity for the rich guy and used his authority to show it?

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Now you've sunk into an absolutely IGNORANT AS HELL argument.

Maybe its black people's fault for being harrassed.

WOW

In some situtations, yes. In some situations no.

If the police can yell obscenties and not get arrested then so should citizens.

Police have a job to do and use "yelling" or "authortative speaking" as a way to make sure a suspect is put off guard and made to be less of a threat.

Did you miss D?

I dont' know what you mean by this.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

in response to "D", you obviously want to quell the fire once you know you might be getting jesse jackson and the race opportunists on your ass. That doesn't mean much to me.

 

[Jeff]

Obama is a politician and he's doing what politicians do. He knows many African-Americans are starting to see him as a pussy on race and this was his response to it .. no differently than when he was pushed to respond to Jena 6.

It doesn't make any difference what this cop was trained in or for .. I can bet you a dollar to a donut he was talked to by his superiors and told how he could have handled this better.

Is it possible that a police officer held animosity for the rich guy and used his authority to show it?

Absolutely, as I said you or I were not there, so your guess is as good as mine

But as for Obama looking like a pussy , he isn't there for no single race, he is there to be the president, he now looks like a racist to some, as I stated before if he want's to run the police department how come no comment on the serial killer in SC ?

And by the way BAC I do understand your point in him needing to show he isn't a pussy, but just don't think at his level he ought to even be thinking of that

 

[blackascoal]

In some situtations, yes. In some situations no.

Police harrassment, beating, and murder of INNOCENT non-white citizens has been happening in this country long before video .. and in fact, there is no sane argument that demonstrates racism is not prevalent throughout policfe departments. Studied, documented, and proven.

Police have a job to do and use "yelling" or "authortative speaking" as a way to make sure a suspect is put off guard and made to be less of a threat.

While that may be true of "suspects" yelling obscentitis at innocent people is NOT part of their job .. but they do it all the time .. and get away with it.

I dont' know what you mean by this.

See post #152

 

[Topspin]

Yeah Jeff cause racism is such a small factor these days. LOL

 

[Jeff]

Yeah Jeff cause racism is such a small factor these days. LOL

OOO Your right and it does wonders for racism for our first black president to shoot his mouth off how stupid the cops are cause they hassled a black man LMAO

 

[blackascoal]

Absolutely, as I said you or I were not there, so your guess is as good as mine

But as for Obama looking like a pussy , he isn't there for no single race, he is there to be the president, he now looks like a racist to some, as I stated before if he want's to run the police department how come no comment on the serial killer in SC ?

And by the way BAC I do understand your point in him needing to show he isn't a pussy, but just don't think at his level he ought to even be thinking of that

I wasn't there during the Rodney King beating either, or the murder of a 92 year-old black woman by police while she sat quietly alone in her home either, nor was I there when my friend, a good man and father, was murdered by a fucking cop who shot him in the back of his head while he laid prone on the ground complying with the cop's orders.

I wasn't there, but it took no genius to recognize race played a role in these and coiuntless other incidents where INNOCENT people are murdered by cops in a fashion that would never happen to a white citizen .. yet still many defended the cops in spite of overwhelming evidence.

I didn't have to be there to know what racism smells like.

The abuse and murder of non-white citizens goes on unabatted and cops continue to get off scot-free. But when incidents like this happen, the defenders of the insane shout "what racism?"

I totally and completely disagree with you on what Obama should have done and if he should have made a statement about it.

If a female politician engages in womens' issues .. is that racist?

If a Jewish politician engages in policies that affect Jewish people .. is that racist?

Why would a black politician engaging in issues that affect black people be any more egregious?

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Police harrassment, beating, and murder of INNOCENT non-white citizens has been happening in this country long before video .. and in fact, there is no sane argument that demonstrates racism is not prevalent throughout policfe departments. Studied, documented, and proven.

I didn't claim otherwise, but that doesn't mean there is racism behind the arrest of every black man. My point was that in your claim that "black people know to make a commotion" probably ends up being very counter-productive. It was also a comment made tongue in cheek, though it probably isn't without merit.

 

[blackascoal]

I didn't claim otherwise, but that doesn't mean there is racism behind the arrest of every black man. My point was that in your claim that "black people know to make a commotion" probably ends up being very counter-productive. It was also a comment made tongue in cheek, though it probably isn't without merit.

Please don't quote me on things I did not say .. such as "black people know how to make a commotion" which is very different than what I actually said .. and you keep repeating the same line in spite of the fact that police abuse and murder of non-white citizens is legendary in the US and has been happening for hundreds of years .. long before video.

I agree that racism is not resident with every arrest of a black man, but racism is common within American police departments.

This from the greatest prison nation the world has ever known.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

you said "African-Americans recognize to "draw attention"...

I said "cause a commotion"

Now you are basically arguing semantics.

But I agree there is racism in the police force across america. Though irrelevant for this case, I don't see this situation as racist in the slightest.

 

[Jeff]

I wasn't there during the Rodney King beating either, or the murder of a 92 year-old black woman by police while she sat quietly alone in her home either, nor was I there when my friend, a good man and father, was murdered by a fucking cop who shot him in the back of his head while he laid prone on the ground complying with the cop's orders.

I wasn't there, but it took no genius to recognize race played a role in these and coiuntless other incidents where INNOCENT people are murdered by cops in a fashion that would never happen to a white citizen .. yet still many defended the cops in spite of overwhelming evidence.

I didn't have to be there to know what racism smells like.

The abuse and murder of non-white citizens goes on unabatted and cops continue to get off scot-free. But when incidents like this happen, the defenders of the insane shout "what racism?"

I totally and completely disagree with you on what Obama should have done and if he should have made a statement about it.

If a female politician engages in womens' issues .. is that racist?

If a Jewish politician engages in policies that affect Jewish people .. is that racist?

Why would a black politician engaging in issues that affect black people be any more egregious?

All of those people would be wrong in my eyes if they didn't have all facts

And yes if a woman or a Jew commented only ( and without all the facts) on there race or gender yes they would be wrong in my eyes

BAC I am not arguing racism with you, it is there no doubt at all, but a man with Obama' credentials should not be putting his 2 cents in when he doesn't have all the facts, you said yourself he did it to pull himself up with the black community, that is wrong

 

[blackascoal]

you said "African-Americans recognize to "draw attention"...

I said "cause a commotion"

Now you are basically arguing semantics.

But I agree there is racism in the police force across america. Though irrelevant for this case, I don't see this situation as racist in the slightest.

There is a difference beyond semantics in what you said and I said.

It is bad form to put quotes around words the other person never used.

Does it matter to you the there was already tension between the Cambridge force and black residents, students, and faculty?

I have an idea .. how about this country doing something about racism in the police force and courts that we all know is there.

 

[blackascoal]

All of those people would be wrong in my eyes if they didn't have all facts

And yes if a woman or a Jew commented only ( and without all the facts) on there race or gender yes they would be wrong in my eyes

BAC I am not arguing racism with you, it is there no doubt at all, but a man with Obama' credentials should not be putting his 2 cents in when he doesn't have all the facts, you said yourself he did it to pull himself up with the black community, that is wrong

Obvioulsy you're not a politician.

I don't agree with you that politicians shouldn't bring their life experience to the office.

I don't agree that a woamn should not champion the rights of women or that an jewish or hispanic polirtician should not get involved in the issues that affect their communities.

That makes no sense to me.

 

[Jeff]

Obvioulsy you're not a politician.

I don't agree with you that politicians shouldn't bring their life experience to the office.

I don't agree that a woamn should not champion the rights of women or that an jewish or hispanic polirtician should not get involved in the issues that affect their communities.

That makes no sense to me.

NO I am not a politician, I don't lie well enough, LoL

But are you know trying to make me believe that poor Obama knows anything about racism ,LOL Yea I bet he grew up in the hood, Come on BAC ya said it yourself he was looking like a pussy to the black race so he jumped to pull himself up

And NO a President is to represent all of us not just his/her race, When Obama jumps up and says something without all the facts in defense of a person male or female and takes there side over the police WITHOUT all the facts I will admit you were right , until then he should represent America, all of it

 

[blackascoal]

NO I am not a politician, I don't lie well enough, LoL

But are you know trying to make me believe that poor Obama knows anything about racism ,LOL Yea I bet he grew up in the hood, Come on BAC ya said it yourself he was looking like a pussy to the black race so he jumped to pull himself up

And NO a President is to represent all of us not just his/her race, When Obama jumps up and says something without all the facts in defense of a person male or female and takes there side over the police WITHOUT all the facts I will admit you were right , until then he should represent America, all of it

My brother, you don't have to live in the hood, be a criminal, or pose a threat to anybody to experience racism in the police force. All you need is non-white skin. This is something I and many others prepare our children with.

Kenneth Walker was an engineer with a college degree and married with a loving wife and 3 year-old daughter .. just going out to dinner with four friends who were all professionals and not a criminal record between them. YET, this man was murdered by racism with a badge while doing exactly what the racist scum in uniform had ordered him to do.

I find way too many white people incredibly naive about what is happening in their own country. If the police murders a non-white person, they must have deserved it .. and the police only confront criminals. Even when watching the King video which clearly demonstrated the truth, some found any excuse to defend obvious racism.

How about a black paramedic .. DOING HIS JOB .. WITH A PATIENT IN THE AMBULANCE?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

the original story I read was they hassalled him after the first and brought him to jail after he produced the second.

Then post the link.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

the black cop was negligent in not reigning in his racist partner. Your a racist so your vision is clouded, not surprising as your a narrow minded tool.

It is really pathetic that you fail to recognize your own racism.