Science doesn't know everything

Beefy said:
No, they don't. They are not defying physics, nor do they seem to. Solar wind and black holes do not defy physics, no matter what silly context you wish to put them in.
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Please read the full sentence and notice the part where I say "what we understand as" because that is an important part of the sentence. I posted the link on the other thread, but you can go to Wikipedia and look up solar winds, it's not that hard to do. When you start reading about them, you will discover, as ib1 did, that I am correct. We simply don't know and can't explain how the solar winds accelerate.

Back in 1958, this scientist used what we commonly know as physics, to theorize the solar winds were caused by thermal expansion from the corona of the sun. At the time, we thought we knew and understood what caused the acceleration of the solar winds. But science, not being "conclusive" continues to ask questions, and when we began shooting rockets into space, we were able to actually measure the velocity and speed of the solar winds, and low and behold, the math doesn't add up! What science and physics predict should be the case, is not the case! When something doesn't conform to the parameters of physics as we understand them, it is said to be in 'defiance' of those parameters. Such is the case with the solar winds.

Now that is a statement of fact that can't be refuted. It's not to say that solar winds defy physics, just that they seem to defy principles of physics as we commonly understand them. Unless you have some theory involving physics which would explain the acceleration of the solar winds, then physics hasn't explained it. If it hasn't explained and can't explain, it has been defied. Oh I know it rubs you the wrong way to question your faith in science that way, but those are the facts and you've offered absolutely nothing to refute those facts.
 
Yurt said:
if science can't prove god does not exist....why are so postive he doesn't?
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All it requires is common sense.

What evidence do you have that Santa doesn't exist?

I imagine you have the same evidence that I have that God doesn't exist.

... plain ol' common sense.
 
blackascoal said:
All it requires is common sense.

What evidence do you have that Santa doesn't exist?

I imagine you have the same evidence that I have that God doesn't exist.

... plain ol' common sense.
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yeah....god and santa....oh the similarities :rolleyes:

that was really weak, especially for you BAC
 
Yurt said:
yeah....god and santa....oh the similarities :rolleyes:

that was really weak, especially for you BAC
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Don't run my brother .. it's your argument.

Prove that Santa does not exist.

You're asking others to prove that God does not exist, what's the problem?

There is no logic to Santa .. only the belief of children.

There is no logic, fact, science, or common sense to God .. only the belief of children.

OK, let's go this way .. prove God exists.

Name ONE fact about God.

God, like Santa, only exists in the mind of the believer. Nowhere else.
 
charver said:
To be fair, they're both usually portrayed with beards.
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Except God likes pussy more than Santa and sends his armies to rape the virgins and kill everyone else .. while he watches I imagine.

If the bible is to believed, surely God has a dick.
 
blackascoal said:
Don't run my brother .. it's your argument.

Prove that Santa does not exist.

You're asking others to prove that God does not exist, what's the problem?

There is no logic to Santa .. only the belief of children.

There is no logic, fact, science, or common sense to God .. only the belief of children.

OK, let's go this way .. prove God exists.

Name ONE fact about God.

God, like Santa, only exists in the mind of the believer. Nowhere else.
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santa is supposed to come into your hosue....he never has....he lives in the north pole....people have been there...he doesn't....

don't be this stupid, comparing the two is absurd

it was not my question about proving god exists, you can't prove god does not exist and that is all i wanted to hear....why you don't believe in him if your great belief in science can't prove he doesn't....

that is all
 
Yurt said:
santa is supposed to come into your hosue....he never has....he lives in the north pole....people have been there...he doesn't....

don't be this stupid, comparing the two is absurd

it was not my question about proving god exists, you can't prove god does not exist and that is all i wanted to hear....why you don't believe in him if your great belief in science can't prove he doesn't....

that is all
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He does too!
http://http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/North_Pole_Alaska_Santa_Claus.jpg/521px-North_Pole_Alaska_Santa_Claus.jpg

http://www.northpolesantaclaus.com/main.htm
 
Onceler said:
Except with the whole fetus/human life thing. Science has absolute certainty on that one...
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You are correct. It is 100% certain in that. There is no denying the fact that a human sperm cell combined with a human egg cell is.... GASP!!!... HUMAN.

There is also no doubt that if something is growing and developing it is ALIVE.

I know that hurts for all you deniers, but them is da facts jack... deal with it.
 
blackascoal said:
The concept of "god" is so mindboggling ridiculous that it defies all reason, science, knowledge, and even basic common sense.

A modern-day Zeus sitting atop his Mt. Olympus.

Incredible

The story of Jesus is the story of Hercules, but believers are blind to all that couldn't possibly be more obvious.

Amazing

God vs science demonstrates that humans are not a fully developed species. We are still evolving .. currently we are stuck on stupid.
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Even more ridiculous are those who give a shit if someone wants to believe in 'God' or not. Those who mock others for religious beliefs when they have no way of knowing for sure if they themselves are correct.

Even MORE ridiculous are those that think 9/11 was a great conspiracy where the buildings were subjected to demolition...
 
Superfreak said:
You are correct. It is 100% certain in that. There is no denying the fact that a human sperm cell combined with a human egg cell is.... GASP!!!... HUMAN.

There is also no doubt that if something is growing and developing it is ALIVE.

I know that hurts for all you deniers, but them is da facts jack... deal with it.
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You are incorrect, sir. Dixie says there is no such thing as scientific fact.
 
Yurt said:
santa is supposed to come into your hosue....he never has....he lives in the north pole....people have been there...he doesn't....

don't be this stupid, comparing the two is absurd

it was not my question about proving god exists, you can't prove god does not exist and that is all i wanted to hear....why you don't believe in him if your great belief in science can't prove he doesn't....

that is all
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Comparing one fairy-tale to another is never absurd.

Have you seen heaven?

Do you know anyone there?

Where is it?

Did you come from dust?

Where would Noah go to collect a polar bear and a zebra?

Do you believe the earth was underwater for 40 days, 40 minutes, or 40 seconds?

Find any armor, bones of horses and men under the Red Sea?

I could go on for days with all the incredible non-sensical inconsistensies of God .. even more inconsistencies than there are with Santa.

I can most assuredly prove that god doesn't exist because NO ONE, including you have any evidence "he" does exist except faith .. a belief in something YOU DO NOT KNOW TO BE TRUE. Fact doesn't require faith.

Additionally, christianity is nothing but warmed over Mythra and the story of Jesus has been told many times with different gods and heroes .. like Hercules.

Here's something you can prove to yourself .. sort of test your faith so to speak .. next time a loved one is facing a life-threatening illness, take them to church where god is, not the hospital where science is. .. Not the I would want or expect you to do that because you and I both know, god ain't coming.

The notion of god is a fairy-tale warmed over many times. I'm forever stunned that so many people are actually that desperately weak.
 
blackascoal said:
Except God likes pussy more than Santa and sends his armies to rape the virgins and kill everyone else .. while he watches I imagine.

If the bible is to believed, surely God has a dick.
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Santa can always seek comfort with his herd of reindeer or, perhaps a rather attractive looking elf from the sweatshop.

Poor God, despite being omnipotent and creating the Earth, people, all the creeping things that creepeth, the sun, the moon, the stars and the planets, failed to anticipate the enormous sexual frustration which would build up over eternity. Of course, any normal all-powerful being, or phallic cloud of gas, would just click his fingers, or jostle his neutrons, creating some divine heavenly pussy, probably smelling of honey, and spend an eternity and a half knocking boots with her.

However, it was just our luck to draw the short straw when it came to being allocated graduates from the 'Universal School of Godly Studies' and consequently we get the lad from the div class who only graduated because the faculty were sick and tired of him starting plagues in the cafeteria.

Typical.
 
Superfreak said:
Even more ridiculous are those who give a shit if someone wants to believe in 'God' or not. Those who mock others for religious beliefs when they have no way of knowing for sure if they themselves are correct.

Even MORE ridiculous are those that think 9/11 was a great conspiracy where the buildings were subjected to demolition...
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That's the most ridiculous thing you've ever uttered.

Why do you come here? I'm bettiung you come to offer your opinions and criticize the things you believe are false .. just as you have done here.

But .. oh the thin-skinned believers must be protected from questioning. Of course they're free to spout all the ignorance ever imagined about their faith .. but to question them and to question their fairy-tale .. oh the shame.

get off it dude.

We are as free to question religion as we are free to question politics. If your skin is so thin that you can't stand the questioning .. then perhaps you should post here ...

www.cartoonnetwork.com
 
charver said:
Santa can always seek comfort with his herd of reindeer or, perhaps a rather attractive looking elf from the sweatshop.

Poor God, despite being omnipotent and creating the Earth, people, all the creeping things that creepeth, the sun, the moon, the stars and the planets, failed to anticipate the enormous sexual frustration which would build up over eternity. Of course, any normal all-powerful being, or phallic cloud of gas, would just click his fingers, or jostle his neutrons, creating some divine heavenly pussy, probably smelling of honey, and spend an eternity and a half knocking boots with her.

However, it was just our luck to draw the short straw when it came to being allocated graduates from the 'Universal School of Godly Studies' and consequently we get the lad from the div class who only graduated because the faculty were sick and tired of him starting plagues in the cafeteria.

Typical.
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:lmao:
 
Beefy said:
No, they don't. They are not defying physics, nor do they seem to. Solar wind and black holes do not defy physics, no matter what silly context you wish to put them in.
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Dixie has a difficulty with science that many lay people such as he have in that science is often counter intuitive. For example, Quantam mechanics defies logic and it would seem illogical that a banana plant and a human being would have a common ancestor but those are the facts as science knows them to be.
 
Yurt said:
if science can't prove god does not exist....why are so postive he doesn't?
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Science not only cannot prove or disprove the existence of God, it has nothing to say on the subject. By definition any position or belief about the nature of God is outside the scope and practice of science.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Science not only cannot prove or disprove the existence of God, it has nothing to say on the subject. By definition any position or belief about the nature of God is outside the scope and practice of science.
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Science can, however, evaluate claims of supernatural intervention in the physical world by God.
 
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