Airstrip One
Completely Effed
This is strange news.
Saw that coming, Trumpers destroy constitution.
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This is strange news.
gemini104104
Verified User
The only thing Mr. Thang tRump ended up destroying is his own soul when it comes to his unGodly relationship with humanity and anything else of a civilized nature on Earth.
Many already do and get away with it. The Peoples Republic of California, CHAZ, Portland, NYC are a few examples. Then there are third world lawless banana republics like New Orleans, St. Louis, Baltimore etc. where violent crime flourishes. An incompetent and corrupt DA office couldn’t care less about the right to self defense or right to remain silent.
When the Constitution is violated in so many places without retribution the constitution is meaningless.
So in answer to your question, there are enough states, corrupt districts and third world republics that flaunt such total disregard to the constitution that I’m in favor of doing away with the federal constitution as long as there are individual states with their own as long as they are enforced.
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That is the danger if SCOTUS politicizes itself.
It should be holding up American rights, not American political parties.
I fully support State's Rights. The one caveat is that the Constitution itself takes precedent over State's Rights as the Constitution makes clear:
IX Amendment
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
X Amendment
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
I agree we do.
That means no forced vaccinations.
OTOH, businesses, cities, counties and States have a right to enact restrictions to reduce the negative impact of a global pandemic that has killed over 770,000 Americans and over 5 million world wide.
Correct.
Callinectes
Proud MAGA Semi-Facist
What is the "constitutional right" to an abortion? I understand if you have a little trouble with that.
https://www.hli.org/resources/abortion-no-constitutional-human-right/
What is the "constitutional right" to keep and bear arms? You don't really need a link to that, do you?
There are states and municipalities where it is almost impossible to own a firearm(legally). The 10th amendment seems to cover that pretty well, and there are solutions that the people can exercise that don't even involve the courts or the constitution (remember D.C. vs. Heller?). They can exercise their 4th amendment right to privacy and not tell anyone they own a gun(I did this once), or they can move out(which I did as soon as I was able to. In this case, it was in Connecticut, where just to go to the fucking shooting range, I had to get a letter from the sheriff to transport my guns, not just once, BUT EVERY DAMN TIME). I really wish you blue dickheads would stop playing your little fuck fuck games with the constitution
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Jarod,
Ha haaaa!
What goes around comes around.
The Justice seats of the SCOTUS are about to get a little warm.
Ha haaaa!
What goes around comes around.
The Justice seats of the SCOTUS are about to get a little warm.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
In the context of a WELL REGULATED MILITIA.
Also, I believe the exact wording of the 2nd is.... "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms....."
Keeping and owning are not necessarily the same thing.
The Constitutional Right to make personal medical decisions for oneself. AKA the right to privacy from the Government when making decisions about your body with your doctor.
Before you debate and share "opinions" about Roe v. Wade, you should read the opinion.
Do you have a "Constitutional right to vote"?
What does the IX Amendment mean to you? The phrase "unalienable Rights" mean to you? Do you believe the Feds give us our rights or that everyone has them naturally and that the Feds only protect our natural rights?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed
In this situation I agree no forced vaccinations, but all rights have limits, and there is a balancing act, so a more deadly virus might justify forced vaccinations. AKA, your right to be vaccination free is outweighed by your neighbors right to not be infected by you.
So, in your opinion we should weaken rights because you feel others are "getting away with it"?
So you do not believe women have any constitutional rights?
You have a right to bear arms, but like any other right it must be balanced when in conflict with other rights.
Agreed. People have rights not to be infected by diseased idiots be it chlamydia, AIDS or COVID. That
How many anti-vaxxers do you think were the biggest STD spreaders when they were in their 20s? 100%? 80%? 50%?
Rights have no limits except when they conflict with the rights of another. Me alone sitting on 1000 acres while infected with COVID and Black Plague then firing my machine gun into the air is harming no one. Ergo, you have no right to impose your views upon me.
OTOH, me doing the same thing in town conflicts with the rights of others so I should be prevented from dispensing germs and bullets that can harm others. Towns, counties, states and, to a certain extent, the Feds can pass laws preventing harm being done to innocent citizens.
No one has a right to harm another person or risk harm to another person.
Example: https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html
General criminal statutes, such as reckless endangerment and attempted murder, can be used to criminalize behaviors that can potentially expose another to HIV and or an STD.
All that proves is that neither the Trumpsters nor the Democrats support 1) State's Rights or 2) unalienable rights. Sad.
https://www.lp.org/platform/
PREAMBLEAs Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty: a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and are not forced to sacrifice their values for the benefit of others.
We believe that respect for individual rights is the essential precondition for a free and prosperous world, that force and fraud must be banished from human relationships, and that only through freedom can peace and prosperity be realized.
Consequently, we defend each person’s right to engage in any activity that is peaceful and honest, and welcome the diversity that freedom brings. The world we seek to build is one where individuals are free to follow their own dreams in their own ways, without interference from government or any authoritarian power.
In the following pages we set forth our basic principles and enumerate various policy stands derived from those principles.
These specific policies are not our goal, however. Our goal is nothing more nor less than a world set free in our lifetime, and it is to this end that we take these stands.
No not weaken. Do away with them. Rights conferred by individual states or cantons.
I’ve been for the dissolution of America as we know it for years.
Too many different and conflicting values for one country.