Teabagger that was "beaten" now whining that he has no health insurance

ib1yysguy said:
You've wasted far more time trying to avoid explaining your dumbass assertion then it would have taken to just cite what I'm sure is a well reasoned, well thought out argument.
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I don't have to present a well thought out argument to you or anyone else. I give my own thoughts on things that I know about and that is how it will be, if ya don't like it, tough....all you present is the talking points off the DNC talking point memo, so it's not like you are presenting anything you thought of yourself...
so that makes you a tool and a sheep...
 
ib1yysguy said:
You guys are dumb enough to believe anything. Your quotes are totally, completely fabricated. 100 percent straight out of someone's ass. I googled the first one and came up with absolutely 0 credible sources.

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www.americanconservativedaily.com
freedomedium.com
ericthered.net
technorati.com

These are the only people on the entire internet that have cited your quote. That's probably why you didn't give a citation yourself.


Does the name Joseph Goebbels ring a bell?
You'd think something like that would be reported ALL OVER the news. Do you think Glen Beck would run away from such a juicy tidbit?
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ROTFL....Try, try again.
 
meme said:
I don't have to present a well thought out argument to you or anyone else. I give my own thoughts on things that I know about and that is how it will be, if ya don't like it, tough....all you present is the talking points off the DNC talking point memo, so it's not like you are presenting anything you thought of yourself...
so that makes you a tool and a sheep...
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lol

Right. You say whatever the hell you want and people should just take you at your word without having to back it up, despite the fact that you've been shown to be wrong on everything you've said... you just keep saying it.
 
ib1yysguy said:
You guys are dumb enough to believe anything. Your quotes are totally, completely fabricated. 100 percent straight out of someone's ass. I googled the first one and came up with absolutely 0 credible sources.

403 Forbidden

www.americanconservativedaily.com
freedomedium.com
ericthered.net
technorati.com

These are the only people on the entire internet that have cited your quote. That's probably why you didn't give a citation yourself.


Does the name Joseph Goebbels ring a bell?
You'd think something like that would be reported ALL OVER the news. Do you think Glen Beck would run away from such a juicy tidbit?
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http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Where_Civic_Republicanism_and_Deliberative_Democracy_Meet.pdf Page 13, last paragraph stating about 1/2 way down:

This civic republican or deliberative democratic conception of the good provides both procedural and substantive insights for developing a just alloca- tion of health care resources. Procedurally, it sug- gests the need for public forums to deliberate about which health services should be considered basic and should be socially guaranteed. Substantively, it suggests services that promote the continuation of the polity-those that ensure healthy future genera- tions, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citi- zens in public deliberations-are to be socially guar- anteed as basic. Conversely, services provided to in- dividuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with de-mentia.
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Author: Ezekiel J. Emanuel Where Civic Republicanism and Deliberative Democracy Meet
Published in the Hastings Center Report, November-December 1996

Those pesky facts. :)
 
ib1yysguy said:
lol

Right. You say whatever the hell you want and people should just take you at your word without having to back it up, despite the fact that you've been shown to be wrong on everything you've said... you just keep saying it.
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nobody is forced to take anything I say as fact, the same no one takes what you say as fact, because all you do is regurgitate Democrat talking points...now baaaa along..
 
Southern Man said:
http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Where_Civic_Republicanism_and_Deliberative_Democracy_Meet.pdf Page 13, last paragraph stating about 1/2 way down:



Author: Ezekiel J. Emanuel Where Civic Republicanism and Deliberative Democracy Meet
Published in the Hastings Center Report, November-December 1996

Those pesky facts. :)
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Here's a real fact:

Ezekiel J. Emanuel ≠ part of the Obama administration. He is not the Obama admin health care tzar.

Another fact, nothing like rationing of care exists in the healthcare bill HR 3200.

The big lie purported by people like you, Tutu, and Newt on Sunday is that this guy is a part of the Obama administration. And you guys keep saying he's the healthcare tzar. Both of those are lies. The only connection this guy has to the administration is that he was consulted as an advisor because he's the bioethics guy at the National Institute of Health.

So do this exercise for me: Admit that he's not, as Tutu claimed, the "Obama Administration Healthcare Tzar"
 
meme said:
nobody is forced to take anything I say as fact, the same no one takes what you say as fact, because all you do is regurgitate Democrat talking points...now baaaa along..
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More projection. All YOU do is regurgitate talking points. I back mine up. You are unable to. You don't even know what's true and what isn't anymore. My guess is you're senile.
 
ib1yysguy said:
You guys are dumb enough to believe anything. Your quotes are totally, completely fabricated. 100 percent straight out of someone's ass. I googled the first one and came up with absolutely 0 credible sources.

403 Forbidden

www.americanconservativedaily.com
freedomedium.com
ericthered.net
technorati.com

These are the only people on the entire internet that have cited your quote. That's probably why you didn't give a citation yourself.


Does the name Joseph Goebbels ring a bell?
You'd think something like that would be reported ALL OVER the news. Do you think Glen Beck would run away from such a juicy tidbit?
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The complete lives system discriminates against older
people.81,82 Age-based allocation is ageism.82 Unlike allocation
by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious
discrimination; every person lives through diff erent life
stages rather than being a single age.8,39 Even if 25-year-olds
receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is
65 years now was previously 25 years.16 Treating 65-yearolds
diff erently because of stereotypes or falsehoods would
be ageist; treating them diff erently because they have
already had more life-years is not.
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http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/PIIS0140673609601379.pdf
Authors: Govind Persad, Alan Wertheimer, Ezekiel J Emanuel: Principles for allocation of scarce medical interventions
As published in www.thelancet.com Vol 373 January 31, 2009

Pesky facts. :)
 
ib1yysguy said:
More projection. All YOU do is regurgitate talking points. I back mine up. You are unable to. You don't even know what's true and what isn't anymore. My guess is you're senile.
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you need to be sheared...you have too much wool over your eyes.
 
ib1yysguy said:
ZOMG your plan will have dental, vision, and they won't be able to drop you and refuse coverage or deny you coverage for a preexisting condition! THE HORRORS! THIS HAS 2B STOPPPED!
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dude....I have no problem with buying a plan with full dental and vision....I'm just pissed off because I'm buying YOU a plan with full dental and vision.....I prefer my liberals toothless and blind.....
 
ib1yysguy said:
Here's a real fact:

Ezekiel J. Emanuel ≠ part of the Obama administration. He is not the Obama admin health care tzar.

Another fact, nothing like rationing of care exists in the healthcare bill HR 3200.

The big lie purported by people like you, Tutu, and Newt on Sunday is that this guy is a part of the Obama administration. And you guys keep saying he's the healthcare tzar. Both of those are lies. The only connection this guy has to the administration is that he was consulted as an advisor because he's the bioethics guy at the National Institute of Health.

So do this exercise for me: Admit that he's not, as Tutu claimed, the "Obama Administration Healthcare Tzar"
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It looks like the Chicago Tribune didn't get the memo to keep this under wraps. *shrug*

The eldest Emanuel emerges
Success runs in the family of Obama's health-care adviser


...Now, Ezekiel Emanuel has become something of a public figure, like his famous siblings, as he pursues a new challenge: trying to help the Obama administration reform the health-care system....
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-emanuel-zekemar30,0,3359997.story
 
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