Dutch Uncle
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Agreed on Trump, disagreed on what Heinlein meant.
Have you read much Robert Heinlein?**
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Agreed on Trump, disagreed on what Heinlein meant.
Have you read much Robert Heinlein?**
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PoliTalker
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Hello Dutch,
No, I have never read Heinlein. And that is on purpose. I have been pressured to read him by conservatives who had really objectionable ideas. One quoted Heinlein as if he was the Bible. I decided that even if I was just goofing off, my time was better spent than reading what that person wanted me to.
I learned my lesson after agreeing to read 'Atlas Shrugged' at the behest of a conservative. That was the biggest waste of time I ever agreed to. First of all, I had no idea how long the book was, and secondly, by the time I got done I was really questioning my own judgement to do that. So despite years of persuasion, I never read Heinlein and I never will. My view is that life is too short to read Heinlein. I can always find better things to do with my time.
Besides. I don't have to read Heinlein. His fans quote him all the time.
Agreed on Trump, disagreed on what Heinlein meant.
Have you read much Robert Heinlein?**
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No, I have never read Heinlein. And that is on purpose. I have been pressured to read him by conservatives who had really objectionable ideas. One quoted Heinlein as if he was the Bible. I decided that even if I was just goofing off, my time was better spent than reading what that person wanted me to.
I learned my lesson after agreeing to read 'Atlas Shrugged' at the behest of a conservative. That was the biggest waste of time I ever agreed to. First of all, I had no idea how long the book was, and secondly, by the time I got done I was really questioning my own judgement to do that. So despite years of persuasion, I never read Heinlein and I never will. My view is that life is too short to read Heinlein. I can always find better things to do with my time.
Besides. I don't have to read Heinlein. His fans quote him all the time.
Telling that those who believe the charlatans are also the most fervent of Trumppers.
Dutch Uncle
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The quote makes more sense in context of his world view....which is also the same as mine in many ways.
Assuming that all conservative writers are the same is the same mistake as assuming all Lefties are Socialists. I'm not an Ayn Rand fan either. Your freedom to refuse to read anything you want.
Soooo, by your logic I don't have to read anything by MLK because "His fans quote him all the time". Disagreed, but it's a free choice.
Do explain! Am I for baby killing nope, am I for coveting nope, am I pro homosexual nope. When I first got here I simply stated my beliefs on subjects and got called every name in the book! Spare me your faux Christianity!
Oh, and this sums up the Democrat voting base, and leadership for the most part! Many republican politicians also but mostly Democrats!
2 Timothy 3:1-5
King James Version
3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Looks like a joke to me, and I do not see anybody worshiping it!
Dutch Uncle
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The Golden Calf analogy was not lost even on the Republicans who were there.
Interesting that you support Trump wearing the American flag as underwear but not surprising.
Dutch Uncle
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First, Matt, TOW is not a Christian.
Second, neither are you as established by your own words and lies on JPP.
Time until Wolverine/Matt Dillon justifies his actions by claiming I'm not a Christian either: 10...9...8....
I don't think having a cable television show is something most genuinely pious priests, vicars, rabbis, bishops, nuns aspire to.
In fact, in my estimation, the vast majority of televangelists never went to a seminary, a legitimate divinity school, or have any formal theological education at all. In their minds, any rube who has marketing talents can pick up a bible and thump it.
I have zero doubt you would drop to your knees in prayer before the gold-gilded Idol of Trump.
Speaking of worship, here is an extensive list of Trump-worshippers professing their love for The Donald, and declaring they would die for him >
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...rom-the-Snowflake-files&p=4057756#post4057756
I don't like burnings of flags either, although it is exceedingly rare that it ever happens.
I did like my USA flag bandana, even though it supposedly is against US Code!
Dutch Uncle
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Me neither. Making a business out of religion strikes me as being highly anti-religious.
No license required to make a religion.
That's a nice article because it describes the full spectrum of the Christian experience under Hitler.
Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, and Franco were easily able to locate priests and pastors who would collaborate with them, or at least look the other way.
On the other hand, the article highlights the Christian opposition to Hitler in Germany. Lutheran theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer is particularly inspiring.
Jade Dragon
And I'm the one that jaded you.
True to heart Christians don't use words of defamation of humanity. Like PMP calling people the c-word. They also don't carry themselves above others so blatantly as some do. Those are easy enough tells for phonies.
Dutch Uncle
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Agreed. That's how I tell; a person who truly believes walks the walk. Lip-service Christians just talk the talk then spread hate and division which is obviously contrary to Christianity. It's pretty basic.
Noking
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Sister Stench peaches being pro-life, but also preaches that we should have ignored covid dangers and that is was worth sacrificing human lives for the sake of the economy, so Sister Stench is not to consistent.
Dutch Uncle
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The range of beliefs under Hitler, even after it was clear where he was taking Germany, is shocking because it parallels the movement of Christianity in America.
"Christ has come to us through Adolph Hitler."
No wonder the Evangelicals flocked to Trump. He's the Chosen One. He even said so and they supported it.
