Diesel
Well-known member
Asking me what? Why you think 1 out 6 American citizens are illegal immigrants? My best guess is that it's because you were raised by garbage trailer trash like you are. Yeah, your dead parents were definitely shit.
What the 'EVs for everybody' cultists don't want you to know
- Thread starter Legion
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Asking me what? Why you think 1 out 6 American citizens are illegal immigrants? My best guess is that it's because you were raised by garbage trailer trash like you are. Yeah, your dead parents were definitely shit.
Diesel
Well-known member
Tell me, Weasel, how often did the weasel words "estimate" occur in this Holy Link (which I suspect you posted without reviewing)? https://www.brookings.edu/policy202...ts-are-in-the-united-states-and-who-are-they/
Then explain to the class what the Pew link refers to...is it, is it...mostly....polling?
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/20/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/
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Diesel
Well-known member
Go back and reread.
No need. You're a weird, unhinged liar. We can all see what happened here.
Diesel
Well-known member
Tell me, Weasel, how often did the weasel words "estimate" occur in this Holy Link (which I suspect you posted without reviewing)? https://www.brookings.edu/policy202...ts-are-in-the-united-states-and-who-are-they/
Then explain to the class what the Pew link refers to...is it, is it...mostly....polling?
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/20/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/
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Is the infrastructure ready for an electric vehicle future?
The simple answer to the question posed by the title of this article is yes and no.
Okay, maybe it’s not quite so simple. But the reality is that it depends on the specifics of what is being asked.
The infrastructure needed for an electrified vehicle ecosystem is not monolithic.
There are many aspects to the value chain and they are currently at widely varying states of readiness.
We’re now about a decade into the modern era of plug-in electric vehicles (PEV).
However, PEVs and the infrastructure needed to make them useful is in many ways more challenging than developing a network of gasoline production and distribution was.
A car’s gas tank can be refilled in a few minutes.
At a DC fast charging station, a full charge of most long-range EVs takes 30 minutes to an hour.
Even new ultra-fast DC chargers at 350-kW can take 15 to 20 minutes.
In normal times, even on a holiday weekend when many people are going for a road trip the lines at a busy gas station rarely last more than 5 to 10 minutes. On those same holiday weekends, it’s not uncommon for Tesla drivers at Supercharger locations to wait for two to three hours for a plug.
Automakers and charging service providers are well aware of this challenge and they are working along multiple pathways to address them.
Availability of charging locations is growing and the speed of charging is getting faster.
According to the U.S. Department of Energy Alternative Fuel Data Center, there are currently about 31,100 EV charging stations with more than 95,000 charge points in the U.S. and Canada.
However, of those, only 4,700 are DC fast charging locations with 16,700 charge points. Among those more than 7,600 are 50-kW or less which means that they can take hours to charge an EV fully.
A key differentiator of PEVs relative to internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles is that you do not actually have to go to a special vendor to fuel it up.
Using the charging cord that comes with virtually every PEV, it can be charged from any electrical outlet.
Anyone with a home and electrical service can fuel up their PEV whenever they are at home. At least in theory. This works well for those that live in single family homes with dedicated parking.
Those that live in multi-unit dwellings or apartments often do not have access to a plug and aren’t able to install a dedicated 240V Level 2 charger. Even in many older cities, many single family homes rely on street parking and running a charging cord out from the house isn’t practical.
It gets a bit more complicated for charging stations, especially those with multiple DC fast chargers.
If multiple chargers are installed, there is an expectation that many or all of them may be used simultaneously.
There must be sufficient electrical capacity to feed all of the chargers simultaneously. Some Tesla Supercharger locations now have as many as 18 chargers and they are in the process of being upgraded to 250-kW output. That’s a potential draw of 4.5 MW.
Electric trucks like Tesla’s announced Semi may potentially draw 1.5-MW or more each. This supply requirement can place additional limits on where chargers can be located. In some cases, installation of a charging station may require substantial and costly upgrades to the local grid.
This can be particularly problematic for commercial fleet operators. it will take careful planning and upgrades of many elements in the supply chain to reliably fuel that fleet.
https://www.automotiveworld.com/articles/is-the-infrastructure-ready-for-an-electric-vehicle-future/
The simple answer to the question posed by the title of this article is yes and no.
Okay, maybe it’s not quite so simple. But the reality is that it depends on the specifics of what is being asked.
The infrastructure needed for an electrified vehicle ecosystem is not monolithic.
There are many aspects to the value chain and they are currently at widely varying states of readiness.
We’re now about a decade into the modern era of plug-in electric vehicles (PEV).
However, PEVs and the infrastructure needed to make them useful is in many ways more challenging than developing a network of gasoline production and distribution was.
A car’s gas tank can be refilled in a few minutes.
At a DC fast charging station, a full charge of most long-range EVs takes 30 minutes to an hour.
Even new ultra-fast DC chargers at 350-kW can take 15 to 20 minutes.
In normal times, even on a holiday weekend when many people are going for a road trip the lines at a busy gas station rarely last more than 5 to 10 minutes. On those same holiday weekends, it’s not uncommon for Tesla drivers at Supercharger locations to wait for two to three hours for a plug.
Automakers and charging service providers are well aware of this challenge and they are working along multiple pathways to address them.
Availability of charging locations is growing and the speed of charging is getting faster.
According to the U.S. Department of Energy Alternative Fuel Data Center, there are currently about 31,100 EV charging stations with more than 95,000 charge points in the U.S. and Canada.
However, of those, only 4,700 are DC fast charging locations with 16,700 charge points. Among those more than 7,600 are 50-kW or less which means that they can take hours to charge an EV fully.
A key differentiator of PEVs relative to internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles is that you do not actually have to go to a special vendor to fuel it up.
Using the charging cord that comes with virtually every PEV, it can be charged from any electrical outlet.
Anyone with a home and electrical service can fuel up their PEV whenever they are at home. At least in theory. This works well for those that live in single family homes with dedicated parking.
Those that live in multi-unit dwellings or apartments often do not have access to a plug and aren’t able to install a dedicated 240V Level 2 charger. Even in many older cities, many single family homes rely on street parking and running a charging cord out from the house isn’t practical.
It gets a bit more complicated for charging stations, especially those with multiple DC fast chargers.
If multiple chargers are installed, there is an expectation that many or all of them may be used simultaneously.
There must be sufficient electrical capacity to feed all of the chargers simultaneously. Some Tesla Supercharger locations now have as many as 18 chargers and they are in the process of being upgraded to 250-kW output. That’s a potential draw of 4.5 MW.
Electric trucks like Tesla’s announced Semi may potentially draw 1.5-MW or more each. This supply requirement can place additional limits on where chargers can be located. In some cases, installation of a charging station may require substantial and costly upgrades to the local grid.
This can be particularly problematic for commercial fleet operators. it will take careful planning and upgrades of many elements in the supply chain to reliably fuel that fleet.
https://www.automotiveworld.com/articles/is-the-infrastructure-ready-for-an-electric-vehicle-future/
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
I have no problem with that. My problem with battery cars is the government is picking winners and losers based on idiotic politics, no science or engineering involved and then subsidizing that. If EV cars are to win the market, let them compete with gasoline and diesel ones on a level playing field.
Power Failure: Washington is all in on EVs, but infrastructure is unprepared
SOFT-ON-CRIME DEMOCRATS WANT THIEVES TO HAVE ACCESS TO MORE TAXPAYER-FUNDED COPPER
It’s not the cars. It’s how and where we're going to charge them all.
If charging a zero-emissions electric vehicle is a hassle under even the most ideal of conditions, how can we force Americans to switch to EVs on a national scale?
When you look at the plans that DEMOCRATS have for electric vehicles, one can’t help but wonder: How in the world are we going to power all of these cars?
Is that even possible?
According to the U.S. Department of Energy, most EV drivers “do more than 80% of their charging at home.”
There are three types of charging available at the moment: Level 1 and Level 2 (which are the most common types available for your home), and Level 3 (more commonly known as DC fast charging).
Not all EVs are equipped to handle DC fast charging.
Charging is a very different proposition for a homeowner than it is for somebody who doesn’t have access to charging where they live. Are they supposed to walk?
There are other, less obvious problems, but will have to be accounted for sooner or later, like the wildfire-induced blackouts in California that left EV drivers to their own devices. Other issues come down to who is ultimately paying for the wattage.
But DEMOCRATS' attitude seems to be, “It’s not a concern. Make the problem. We’ll figure it out.”
https://www.insidehook.com/article/vehicles/is-american-infrastructure-ready-for-electric-vehicle-future
SOFT-ON-CRIME DEMOCRATS WANT THIEVES TO HAVE ACCESS TO MORE TAXPAYER-FUNDED COPPER
It’s not the cars. It’s how and where we're going to charge them all.
If charging a zero-emissions electric vehicle is a hassle under even the most ideal of conditions, how can we force Americans to switch to EVs on a national scale?
When you look at the plans that DEMOCRATS have for electric vehicles, one can’t help but wonder: How in the world are we going to power all of these cars?
Is that even possible?
According to the U.S. Department of Energy, most EV drivers “do more than 80% of their charging at home.”
There are three types of charging available at the moment: Level 1 and Level 2 (which are the most common types available for your home), and Level 3 (more commonly known as DC fast charging).
Not all EVs are equipped to handle DC fast charging.
Charging is a very different proposition for a homeowner than it is for somebody who doesn’t have access to charging where they live. Are they supposed to walk?
There are other, less obvious problems, but will have to be accounted for sooner or later, like the wildfire-induced blackouts in California that left EV drivers to their own devices. Other issues come down to who is ultimately paying for the wattage.
But DEMOCRATS' attitude seems to be, “It’s not a concern. Make the problem. We’ll figure it out.”
https://www.insidehook.com/article/vehicles/is-american-infrastructure-ready-for-electric-vehicle-future
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
A pair of these will slice that cable off in under 5 seconds.
That would be a real "green new steal", wouldn't it?
Let me guess: the taxpayers will pay for replacing thousands of those every month?
Diesel
Well-known member
Tell me, Weasel, how often did the weasel words "estimate" occur in this Holy Link (which I suspect you posted without reviewing)? https://www.brookings.edu/policy202...ts-are-in-the-united-states-and-who-are-they/
Then explain to the class what the Pew link refers to...is it, is it...mostly....polling?
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/20/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/
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Why Americans Don’t Buy EVs
Most Americans aren’t interested in electric vehicles. That’s a cold fact.
Infrastructure weak link.
Fast charging stations that are available are often taken. That means waiting 10, 15 or sometimes 30 minutes for a charger. That’s on top of the time it takes to charge.
Do you have an hour or longer to charge your car? I didn’t think so.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brookecrothers/2019/09/22/why-americans-dont-buy-electric-cars-hey-the-tesla-model-3-isnt-that-popular/?sh=655e91ae37fd
Most Americans aren’t interested in electric vehicles. That’s a cold fact.
Infrastructure weak link.
Fast charging stations that are available are often taken. That means waiting 10, 15 or sometimes 30 minutes for a charger. That’s on top of the time it takes to charge.
Do you have an hour or longer to charge your car? I didn’t think so.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brookecrothers/2019/09/22/why-americans-dont-buy-electric-cars-hey-the-tesla-model-3-isnt-that-popular/?sh=655e91ae37fd
Why The World Still Isn't Ready For An EV Revolution
One of the major obstacles is the lack of EV infrastructure available.
Governments around the world are making big plans for the future of EV, with the rollout of charging stations in major cities already taking place.
But rural areas in North America are still lagging behind urban areas in EV infrastructure.
A U.S. Department of Energy analysis determined that rural areas house around 19 percent of the U.S. population and yet there is a severe lack of EV charging infrastructure in non-urban locations.
In addition, the average rural driver has to travel longer distances on a daily basis than urban drivers, meaning out-of-home charging points are vital for EV uptake.
https://www.iqstockmarket.com/n/world-isnt-ready-ev-revolution-2796359/
One of the major obstacles is the lack of EV infrastructure available.
Governments around the world are making big plans for the future of EV, with the rollout of charging stations in major cities already taking place.
But rural areas in North America are still lagging behind urban areas in EV infrastructure.
A U.S. Department of Energy analysis determined that rural areas house around 19 percent of the U.S. population and yet there is a severe lack of EV charging infrastructure in non-urban locations.
In addition, the average rural driver has to travel longer distances on a daily basis than urban drivers, meaning out-of-home charging points are vital for EV uptake.
https://www.iqstockmarket.com/n/world-isnt-ready-ev-revolution-2796359/
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Given the current cost of copper cable, I'd say one station's cord would run between $300 and $600 depending on length.
That could make thieves very happy.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Yea, but you gotta burn off the insulation and that adds to Gorebal Warming and local air pollution big time...
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
On recharging stations... They also have a much lower reliability than gas pumps. These stations average between about 70 and 80% working. That is, you can show up at a public one for a charge and find it's dead. That's on top of potential vandalism...
Something tells me that the thieves only care about long green.
Sounds like something DEMOCRATS would push.