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By David B. Rivkin Jr. and Lee A. Casey
Saturday, August 22, 2009

President Obama has called for a serious and reasoned debate about his plans to overhaul the health-care system. Any such debate must include the question of whether it is constitutional for the federal government to adopt and implement the president's proposals. Consider one element known as the "individual mandate," which would require every American to have health insurance, if not through an employer then by individual purchase. This requirement would particularly affect young adults, who often choose to save the expense and go without coverage. Without the young to subsidize the old, a comprehensive national health system will not work. But can Congress require every American to buy health insurance?

In short, no. The Constitution assigns only limited, enumerated powers to Congress and none, including the power to regulate interstate commerce or to impose taxes, would support a federal mandate requiring anyone who is otherwise without health insurance to buy it.

Although the Supreme Court has interpreted Congress's commerce power expansively, this type of mandate would not pass muster even under the most aggressive commerce clause cases. In Wickard v. Filburn (1942), the court upheld a federal law regulating the national wheat markets. The law was drawn so broadly that wheat grown for consumption on individual farms also was regulated. Even though this rule reached purely local (rather than interstate) activity, the court reasoned that the consumption of homegrown wheat by individual farms would, in the aggregate, have a substantial economic effect on interstate commerce, and so was within Congress's reach.


The court reaffirmed this rationale in 2005 in Gonzales v. Raich, when it validated Congress's authority to regulate the home cultivation of marijuana for personal use. In doing so, however, the justices emphasized that -- as in the wheat case -- "the activities regulated by the [Controlled Substances Act] are quintessentially economic." That simply would not be true with regard to an individual health insurance mandate.

The otherwise uninsured would be required to buy coverage, not because they were even tangentially engaged in the "production, distribution or consumption of commodities," but for no other reason than that people without health insurance exist. The federal government does not have the power to regulate Americans simply because they are there. Significantly, in two key cases, United States v. Lopez (1995) and United States v. Morrison (2000), the Supreme Court specifically rejected the proposition that the commerce clause allowed Congress to regulate noneconomic activities merely because, through a chain of causal effects, they might have an economic impact. These decisions reflect judicial recognition that the commerce clause is not infinitely elastic and that, by enumerating its powers, the framers denied Congress the type of general police power that is freely exercised by the states.

This leaves mandate supporters with few palatable options. Congress could attempt to condition some federal benefit on the acquisition of insurance. States, for example, usually condition issuance of a car registration on proof of automobile insurance, or on a sizable payment into an uninsured motorist fund. Even this, however, cannot achieve universal health coverage. No federal program or entitlement applies to the entire population, and it is difficult to conceive of a "benefit" that some part of the population would not choose to eschew.

The other obvious alternative is to use Congress's power to tax and spend. In an effort, perhaps, to anchor this mandate in that power, the Senate version of the individual mandate envisions that failure to comply would be met with a penalty, to be collected by the IRS. This arrangement, however, is not constitutional either.

Like the commerce power, the power to tax gives the federal government vast authority over the public, and it is well settled that Congress can impose a tax for regulatory rather than purely revenue-raising purposes. Yet Congress cannot use its power to tax solely as a means of controlling conduct that it could not otherwise reach through the commerce clause or any other constitutional provision. In the 1922 case Bailey v. Drexel Furniture, the Supreme Court ruled that Congress could not impose a "tax" to penalize conduct (the utilization of child labor) it could not also regulate under the commerce clause. Although the court's interpretation of the commerce power's breadth has changed since that time, it has not repudiated the fundamental principle that Congress cannot use a tax to regulate conduct that is otherwise indisputably beyond its regulatory power.

Of course, these constitutional impediments can be avoided if Congress is willing to raise corporate and/or income taxes enough to fund fully a new national health system. Absent this politically dangerous -- and therefore unlikely -- scenario, advocates of universal health coverage must accept that Congress's power, like that of the other branches, has limits. These limits apply regardless of how important the issue may be, and neither Congress nor the president can take constitutional short cuts. The genius of our system is that, no matter how convinced our elected officials may be that certain measures are in the public interest, their goals can be accomplished only in accord with the powers and processes the Constitution mandates, processes that inevitably make them accountable to the American people.

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By David B. Rivkin Jr. and Lee A. Casey
Saturday, August 22, 2009

President Obama has called for a serious and reasoned debate about his plans to overhaul the health-care system. Any such debate must include the question of whether it is constitutional for the federal government to adopt and implement the president's proposals. Consider one element known as the "individual mandate," which would require every American to have health insurance, if not through an employer then by individual purchase. This requirement would particularly affect young adults, who often choose to save the expense and go without coverage. Without the young to subsidize the old, a comprehensive national health system will not work. But can Congress require every American to buy health insurance?

In short, no. The Constitution assigns only limited, enumerated powers to Congress and none, including the power to regulate interstate commerce or to impose taxes, would support a federal mandate requiring anyone who is otherwise without health insurance to buy it.

Although the Supreme Court has interpreted Congress's commerce power expansively, this type of mandate would not pass muster even under the most aggressive commerce clause cases. In Wickard v. Filburn (1942), the court upheld a federal law regulating the national wheat markets. The law was drawn so broadly that wheat grown for consumption on individual farms also was regulated. Even though this rule reached purely local (rather than interstate) activity, the court reasoned that the consumption of homegrown wheat by individual farms would, in the aggregate, have a substantial economic effect on interstate commerce, and so was within Congress's reach.


The court reaffirmed this rationale in 2005 in Gonzales v. Raich, when it validated Congress's authority to regulate the home cultivation of marijuana for personal use. In doing so, however, the justices emphasized that -- as in the wheat case -- "the activities regulated by the [Controlled Substances Act] are quintessentially economic." That simply would not be true with regard to an individual health insurance mandate.

The otherwise uninsured would be required to buy coverage, not because they were even tangentially engaged in the "production, distribution or consumption of commodities," but for no other reason than that people without health insurance exist. The federal government does not have the power to regulate Americans simply because they are there. Significantly, in two key cases, United States v. Lopez (1995) and United States v. Morrison (2000), the Supreme Court specifically rejected the proposition that the commerce clause allowed Congress to regulate noneconomic activities merely because, through a chain of causal effects, they might have an economic impact. These decisions reflect judicial recognition that the commerce clause is not infinitely elastic and that, by enumerating its powers, the framers denied Congress the type of general police power that is freely exercised by the states.

This leaves mandate supporters with few palatable options. Congress could attempt to condition some federal benefit on the acquisition of insurance. States, for example, usually condition issuance of a car registration on proof of automobile insurance, or on a sizable payment into an uninsured motorist fund. Even this, however, cannot achieve universal health coverage. No federal program or entitlement applies to the entire population, and it is difficult to conceive of a "benefit" that some part of the population would not choose to eschew.

The other obvious alternative is to use Congress's power to tax and spend. In an effort, perhaps, to anchor this mandate in that power, the Senate version of the individual mandate envisions that failure to comply would be met with a penalty, to be collected by the IRS. This arrangement, however, is not constitutional either.

Like the commerce power, the power to tax gives the federal government vast authority over the public, and it is well settled that Congress can impose a tax for regulatory rather than purely revenue-raising purposes. Yet Congress cannot use its power to tax solely as a means of controlling conduct that it could not otherwise reach through the commerce clause or any other constitutional provision. In the 1922 case Bailey v. Drexel Furniture, the Supreme Court ruled that Congress could not impose a "tax" to penalize conduct (the utilization of child labor) it could not also regulate under the commerce clause. Although the court's interpretation of the commerce power's breadth has changed since that time, it has not repudiated the fundamental principle that Congress cannot use a tax to regulate conduct that is otherwise indisputably beyond its regulatory power.

Of course, these constitutional impediments can be avoided if Congress is willing to raise corporate and/or income taxes enough to fund fully a new national health system. Absent this politically dangerous -- and therefore unlikely -- scenario, advocates of universal health coverage must accept that Congress's power, like that of the other branches, has limits. These limits apply regardless of how important the issue may be, and neither Congress nor the president can take constitutional short cuts. The genius of our system is that, no matter how convinced our elected officials may be that certain measures are in the public interest, their goals can be accomplished only in accord with the powers and processes the Constitution mandates, processes that inevitably make them accountable to the American people.

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20 years old use the system, don't pay their bills and pass the savings on to you!

Great plan!
 
President Obama has called for a serious and reasoned debate about his plans to overhaul the health-care system. Any such debate must include the question of whether it is constitutional for the federal government to adopt and implement the president's proposals. Consider one element known as the "individual mandate," which would require every American to have health insurance, if not through an employer then by individual purchase. This requirement would particularly affect young adults, who often choose to save the expense and go without coverage. Without the young to subsidize the old, a comprehensive national health system will not work. But can Congress require every American to buy health insurance?

In short, no. The Constitution assigns only limited, enumerated powers to Congress and none, including the power to regulate interstate commerce or to impose taxes, would support a federal mandate requiring anyone who is otherwise without health insurance to buy it.


I like how the right just states things authoritatively without providing any evidence to back their claims up, as if its the only possible opinion in the world.

The individual mandate will probably get universal approval from the supreme court, and these are people who spent their lives studying law, not some crackpot who felt like posting an article on the internet, and who interprets the constitution mainly to suit his political beliefs.
 
It definitely will not get universal approval. If it is questioned, which it probably won't be, it's likely it will be upheld. But Scalia particularly and Alito and Roberts to a lesser extent try to respect the enumerated powers.
 
President Obama generously reached out to the GOP.

Republicans are not serious about honest debate. Only a handful seem interested in the type of comprehensive reform that so many people believe is necessary to ensure the principles and the goals that the president has laid out.

The voters will see it was Republicans who abandoned bipartisanship.
 
It definitely will not get universal approval. If it is questioned, which it probably won't be, it's likely it will be upheld. But Scalia particularly and Alito and Roberts to a lesser extent try to respect the enumerated powers.


You didn't strike me as the type to accept that claptrap. Why do you believe it to be true?
 
It definitely will not get universal approval. If it is questioned, which it probably won't be, it's likely it will be upheld. But Scalia particularly and Alito and Roberts to a lesser extent try to respect the enumerated powers.

Would you ever want to argue a case before the Supreme's? I honestly could see you doing it. interested in Constitutional law at all?
 
You didn't strike me as the type to accept that claptrap. Why do you believe it to be true?

Well okay I will backtrack. They ignore it when they find it inconvenient but they at least give lip service to the notion that the federal government's authority is constitutionally limited. It's hard to make any accurate generalizations about any of the Justices. They cannot really be pigeonholed easily.
 
Would you ever want to argue a case before the Supreme's? I honestly could see you doing it. interested in Constitutional law at all?

I would love to but I doubt it will ever happen. I'm interested in Constitutional Law but if you don't attend Yale or Harvard it's difficult to get to that point.

Right now my interest is in torts and criminal law. Everything is so specialized it is difficult to stretch yourself in too many directions without becoming a jack of all trades and a master of none.
 
I would love to but I doubt it will ever happen. I'm interested in Constitutional Law but if you don't attend Yale or Harvard it's difficult to get to that point.

Right now my interest is in torts and criminal law. Everything is so specialized it is difficult to stretch yourself in too many directions without becoming a jack of all trades and a master of none.

I will keep you in mind if I have to fight the bad guys!
 
President Obama generously reached out to the GOP.

Republicans are not serious about honest debate. Only a handful seem interested in the type of comprehensive reform that so many people believe is necessary to ensure the principles and the goals that the president has laid out.

The voters will see it was Republicans who abandoned bipartisanship.
Please over a dozen R plans sit ready to be discussed, but have not been scheduled for any discussion by the committee head.
 
We have 60 votes in the Senate and the power to pass a health care reform bill with a simple majority of 51.

The Republicans are powerless to stop President Obama.

:p
 
Please over a dozen R plans sit ready to be discussed, but have not been scheduled for any discussion by the committee head.

Was Grassley there?

Did you know he wanted a hospital in his district to verify their write off for charity, do you think he wants to do away with the hospital being able to write off their bad debts?
 
I like how the right just states things authoritatively without providing any evidence to back their claims up, as if its the only possible opinion in the world.

The individual mandate will probably get universal approval from the supreme court, and these are people who spent their lives studying law, not some crackpot who felt like posting an article on the internet, and who interprets the constitution mainly to suit his political beliefs.

lmao.....and you just stated "things" authoritatively without providing any evidence to back up your cliams, as if your opinion is the only possible opinion in teh world....

moron
 
We have 60 votes in the Senate and the power to pass a health care reform bill with a simple majority of 51.

The Republicans are powerless to stop President Obama.

:p

do it then.....pass it without the republicans.....do it as soon as you guys get back from vacation.....do it
 
Because a bill that passes under reconciliation must pay for itself in six years, the public will see proof of your lies about reform increasing the deficit.

Get used to being hated.
 
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