Abbott announces Tx will begin using charter buses to ship illegals to Washington DC

SmarterthanYou said:
habeas corpus has already been determined to be a clearly defined right...........so not sure why you're trying to include that as some sort of 'gotcha'

maybe you do need to list the numerous cases. thanks.
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So, you think a law enforcement officer can hold a person for 3 months with no court ruling and it doesn't violate any habeas corpus rulings let alone the US Constitution?


UNITED STATES v. JUNG AH LUNG
NISHIMURA EKIU v. UNITED STATES
Boumediene v. Bush
JOHNSON v. GUZMAN CHAVEZ
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
So, you think a law enforcement officer can hold a person for 3 months with no court ruling and it doesn't violate any habeas corpus rulings let alone the US Constitution?


UNITED STATES v. JUNG AH LUNG
NISHIMURA EKIU v. UNITED STATES
Boumediene v. Bush
JOHNSON v. GUZMAN CHAVEZ
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Okay, you're out there in Cuckooville. Have anything like..real?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
look up michigan vs. Sitz.................

accept your defeat
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The interesting thing is that in this case the US Supreme Court overturned a Michigan appeals court?
The judgment of the Michigan Court of Appeals is accordingly reversed
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If states have more power than the Feds then how could the Feds overturn the state?
I don't think you know what you are arguing since you just proved your argument was wrong by the evidence you just presented.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
They can't be transported out of the state against their will unless a court has adjudicated that they can be sent out of the state. Then the court ruling is subject to appeal. Transporting someone across a state line against their will without a court order would be kidnapping under Federal law. That is why extradition proceedings and a court ruling are required if someone refuses to leave a state and be transported back to another state for a criminal proceeding.
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you are correct. I finally had time to do some research. it's voluntary, but one would assume the migrants
would take them up on it.. I cant think of a more welcoming place then DC.
Of course if Biden wasn't such a chowder head we could get back to a more orderly fair immigration system
But Biden is clearly an ideologue would would rather take in the world's unskilled disease ridden
and kill wages by excess labor

details:
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/04/06/greg-abbott-texas-border-title-42/
The governor's office clarified that the program is completely voluntary for migrants and would happen only after they had been processed and released by the Department of Homeland Security. And in addition to buses, Abbott also ordered the state to charter flights to transport migrants to the nation's capital. The migrants would have to show documentation that they had already been processed by DHS. Many immigration advocates have noted that providing transportation services for asylum-seekers to reach their final destination is something the state should invest in.

Abbott also said Wednesday the Department of Public Safety will immediately begin enhanced safety inspections of commercial vehicles coming through the Mexico border into Texas because human smugglers are known to use commercial trucks to transport people into the country. Abbott acknowledged that the move will "dramatically slow" traffic at the Texas border. Mexico is one of state's largest trading partners and does hundreds of billions of dollars in trade with Texas every year.

Abbott also said the state will create boat blockades on the Rio Grande to deter migrants and install concertina wire, a type of barbed or razor wire, in low-river crossings on the river that are high-traffic areas.

The Republican governor, who is seeking a third term in November, said the projected number of migrants at the Texas-Mexico border is unprecedented and dangerous and blamed the Biden administration's immigration policies for those numbers. Abbott said the state will announce more policies next week to curb migrant crossings into the state because border officials are urgently asking the state for action.
 
anatta said:
you are correct. I finally had time to do some research. it's voluntary, but one would assume the migrants
would take them up on it.. I cant think of a more welcoming place then DC.
Of course if Biden wasn't such a chowder head we could get back to a more orderly fair immigration system
But Biden is clearly an ideologue would would rather take in the world's unskilled disease ridden
and kill wages by excess labor

details:
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/04/06/greg-abbott-texas-border-title-42/
The governor's office clarified that the program is completely voluntary for migrants and would happen only after they had been processed and released by the Department of Homeland Security. And in addition to buses, Abbott also ordered the state to charter flights to transport migrants to the nation's capital. The migrants would have to show documentation that they had already been processed by DHS. Many immigration advocates have noted that providing transportation services for asylum-seekers to reach their final destination is something the state should invest in.

Abbott also said Wednesday the Department of Public Safety will immediately begin enhanced safety inspections of commercial vehicles coming through the Mexico border into Texas because human smugglers are known to use commercial trucks to transport people into the country. Abbott acknowledged that the move will "dramatically slow" traffic at the Texas border. Mexico is one of state's largest trading partners and does hundreds of billions of dollars in trade with Texas every year.

Abbott also said the state will create boat blockades on the Rio Grande to deter migrants and install concertina wire, a type of barbed or razor wire, in low-river crossings on the river that are high-traffic areas.

The Republican governor, who is seeking a third term in November, said the projected number of migrants at the Texas-Mexico border is unprecedented and dangerous and blamed the Biden administration's immigration policies for those numbers. Abbott said the state will announce more policies next week to curb migrant crossings into the state because border officials are urgently asking the state for action.
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They will gladly take in women and children. They will make good workers or business people. Plus they'll probably be granted asylum for the lulz.

So this is an epic fail all around.
 
anatta said:
you are correct. I finally had time to do some research. it's voluntary, but one would assume the migrants
would take them up on it.. I cant think of a more welcoming place then DC.
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Congratulations on being the first person on the right at JPP to be able to read past the headline. Even if it took you hours to do so and it was right there in the first sentence. At least you proved you do have some reading ability.

The governor's office clarified that the program is completely voluntary for migrants
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My god, you people are so stupid. No wonder you believe so much bull shit.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Congratulations on being the first person on the right at JPP to be able to read past the headline. Even if it took you hours to do so and it was right there in the first sentence. At least you proved you do have some reading ability.



My god, you people are so stupid. No wonder you belief so much bull shit.
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Hey i have a life. Im one of the few of EITHER political party that bothers to do any research

Voluntary doesn't mean it won't be used. Also commercial trucks will be searched, and barriers along the Rio -it's going to get coverage and that is important as MS covers up for Biden

Nobody want them except Dems and Biden. so who is "stupid?"

Come Nov. when Dems take a shellacking - this will be one of many reasons why
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
So you are claiming that a law officer in Texas could arrest you for speeding and then drive you on a tour of 40 other US states while handcuffed for the next 3 months and it wouldn't violate any law?
Sorry, but I don't think I am the one that needs to learn the law.
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much cheaper to drop them at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave the next day......
 
6 more months of this damage. then The Repubs should impeach Biden. but they have no balls
which is why I am not a Republican

at least BBB and HR1 were defeated. be thankful the country wasnt totally trashed by the Progs
 
anatta said:
6 more months of this damage. then The Repubs should impeach Biden. but they have no balls
which is why I am not a Republican

at least BBB and HR1 were defeated. be thankful the country wasnt totally trashed by the Progs
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You're not an American so why do you even care?
 
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