Abbott announces Tx will begin using charter buses to ship illegals to Washington DC

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Pivot fallacy. Rights do not come from a piece of paper.

"Putting on a tutu and twirling like a six year old showing off her new maryjanes" fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

The funny thing is, the 10th amendment doesn't amend Article VI



It seems you are the moron here. The Constitution clearly states that Federal laws are supreme over state laws and judges in states are required to put federal law over state law in any rulings.

WRONG.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The 10th amendment is not changing Article VI at all. Article VI is NOT talking about federal law. It is talking about the Constitution itself, or any law used to bring about the Constitution itself. All other federal laws are NOT covered.

Again, you take clauses of the Constitution of the United States out of context in your effort to discard the Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

It is illegal for anyone to carry passengers across state lines against their will. That would be considered kidnapping under Federal law.

It is not considered kidnapping. They are prisoners.

 

[Into the Night]

They can't be transported out of the state against their will unless a court has adjudicated that they can be sent out of the state.

No court necessary.

Then the court ruling is subject to appeal.

No appeal necessary, since no court is necessary.

Transporting someone across a state line against their will without a court order would be kidnapping under Federal law.

Transporting prisoners that violated federal law to the federal government in Washington DC is not kidnapping.

That is why extradition proceedings and a court ruling are required if someone refuses to leave a state and be transported back to another state for a criminal proceeding.

They are not being transported into the hands of another State. They are being transported to the federal government in Washington DC since they violated federal law.

 

[Into the Night]

Texas has ICE, dumbass.

I hear it does good with their drinks there.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

It is not considered kidnapping. They are prisoners.

"Pull your skirt up over your head and claim no one can see your pretty pink panties" fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

So who will pay for the trips? It's a two to three day trip with multiple stops and lodgings.

The federal government. It's their problem. Texas has all the authority it needs to bill the federal government for the trip.

 

[AProudLefty]

I hear it does good with their drinks there.

I hear that you love to have your boyfriend stuff ice cubes up your ass.

 

[AProudLefty]

The federal government. It's their problem. Texas has all the authority it needs to bill the federal government for the trip.

They will not pay. It is on Texas.

 

[Into the Night]

The state of Texas. That's a given, and-?

Nah. Texas can bill the federal government for the cost of the trip and all expenses. The prisoners violated federal law, and the federal government doesn't want to enforce it's own law. The federal government pays, not Texas.

 

[Into the Night]

So the people of Texas want to waste money on transporting them against their will when they could have just gone to one of those ICE places in Texas?

And I thought you were for deportation?

The HQ for ICE is in Washington DC. It is also part of the executive branch of government, meaning they can be sent directly to Joe Biden.

 

[Into the Night]

The Dunning-Kruger effect strikes again.

Psychoquackery. Contextomy fallacy. Pay attention, dumbass.

 

[AProudLefty]

The HQ for ICE is in Washington DC. It is also part of the executive branch of government, meaning they can be sent directly to Joe Biden.

Sending them to the HQ is not sending them directly to Biden, dumbass.

 

[Into the Night]

So, you think a law enforcement officer can hold a person for 3 months with no court ruling and it doesn't violate any habeas corpus rulings let alone the US Constitution?


UNITED STATES v. JUNG AH LUNG
NISHIMURA EKIU v. UNITED STATES
Boumediene v. Bush
JOHNSON v. GUZMAN CHAVEZ

Pivot fallacy. Busing prisoners to Washington DC is not holding them for 3 months without trial.

 

[Into the Night]

The interesting thing is that in this case the US Supreme Court overturned a Michigan appeals court?


If states have more power than the Feds then how could the Feds overturn the state?
I don't think you know what you are arguing since you just proved your argument was wrong by the evidence you just presented.

No court has authority to change the Constitution, dumbass.

 

[Into the Night]

so you're saying Texas will have to leave them in Louisiana?.....

Louisiana will love that!

 

[Into the Night]

What was being proposed here on JPP was not about arresting people for breaking the law. It was about forcefully transporting them across state lines without any judicial process.

They don't need one.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

No court has authority to change the Constitution, dumbass.

"Look at me, look at me, I'm wearing my underwear on my head" fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

It's a misdemeanor.

No. It's a felony.

 

[Into the Night]

They will not pay. It is on Texas.

The federal government. It's their problem. Texas has all the authority it needs to bill the federal government for the trip.