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Moyers Articulates Progressives' Frustrations With Obama
By Gilbert Mercier


Last night, Bill Moyers was a guest on Bill Maher’s show. The “conscience of American journalism” gave a 30 minutes interview that was a comprehensive and brilliant analysis, and should be used, quite frankly, as a manifesto for the progressive Democrats. If President Obama wants to be more than just a one term President, he should listen to the wise words of Bill Moyers, and he should revamp his political strategy accordingly. Progressives gave Obama the victory over Hillary Clinton in 2008, and they are now feeling that their candidate sold out to the same corporate Democrats who were running the show during the Clinton-era.

The main topics of the interview were health care reform, Afghanistan and the decline of the American empire.

On the health care reform debate, Moyers blamed the Democratic party. He singled out Rahm Emanuel, the President’s Chief of Staff, as the personification of the corporate Democrats who are telling the progressives to shut up. Moyers said that, in the last 30 years, Democrats have become more and more like Republicans by serving corporate interests and forgetting about the public interest. The corporate Democrats are caving in to the health care industry, the drug industry and Wall Street because they rely on massive contributions from the very same corporations to get re-elected.

Bill Moyers said:”I would rather see Obama go down fighting for vigorous strong principled public insurance, than to lose with a corporate-dominated bill…..People say Obama should be FDR. I would much rather see him be Theodore Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt loved to fight. I think if Obama fought instead of really finessed it so much, it would change the atmosphere.”

On Afghanistan, Moyers drew a dual analogy between Vietnam & Afghanistan and JFK & Obama. Bill Moyers thinks we need to come home from Afghanistan. Moyers said:”I think it would be a tragedy beyond description for this young, bright, exiting President to be drawn into an endless war in the same way that the last young, bright, exiting President was drawn into intervened in Vietnam.”

On America as an empire in decline, Bill Moyers said:”We are a very crippled giant suffering from self inflicted wounds that if we do not treat and heal, will in fact bring us to our knees and ultimately to our doom. We are close to losing the moral, financial, economic muscle and wisdom that makes a big nation a great nation.”

Let’s hope the passing of his friend and mentor, Ted Kennedy, will give President Obama an epiphany of some sort, and get him out of his White House bubble so he can remember what he was elected to do. Bill Moyers wants the President to fight on behalf of the American people and for the greater good, it is likely that Ted Kennedy would have pushed him in the same direction than Bill Moyers.
 
Decline of the American empire...

So now Moyers is saying what I have been saying for years...

I knew he was a smart guy.
 
Yeap , there are many things I wish would be going differently.

I only hope that in the end Obama has a better plan than what I can figure hes doing.

It aint perfect by any means but the country is still way better off.
 
Yeap , there are many things I wish would be going differently.

I only hope that in the end Obama has a better plan than what I can figure hes doing.

It aint perfect by any means but the country is still way better off.

imho Obama is too much of more of the same. But still quite refreshing after 8 years of Bushbots.
 
Decline of the American empire...

So now Moyers is saying what I have been saying for years...

I knew he was a smart guy.

That's not something that's inevitable though.

That's just the wishful thinking of our enemies and our cynical leaders being paid to destroy us.

It's a popular notion, but so was the hoola hoop.
 
That's not something that's inevitable though.

That's just the wishful thinking of our enemies and our cynical leaders being paid to destroy us.

It's a popular notion, but so was the hoola hoop.

It is a FACT. The only question is the extent of our decline.
And the remote possibility that we can reverse the decline.
 
It is a FACT. The only question is the extent of our decline.
And the remote possibility that we can reverse the decline.

As far as I know we're still a sovereign nation who pretty much still tells everyone what to do.

Your facts are just a precursor to senile dementia.
 
our best and richest days are ahead of us.

Progressives want Obama
1. End the Occupations and Nation building
2. Stop jailing 800,000 mostly minorities for pot.
 
our best and richest days are ahead of us.

Progressives want Obama
1. End the Occupations and Nation building
2. Stop jailing 800,000 mostly minorities for pot.

Your forgot the part about destroying the economy with cap and trade, and killing all the old white people.
 
our best and richest days are ahead of us.

Progressives want Obama
1. End the Occupations and Nation building
2. Stop jailing 800,000 mostly minorities for pot.

Yeah stop jailing for pot is going to make us great again?
Sure...

What about our debt?
Healthcare system?
Education system?
Declining manufacturing sector?

Global competition lowering our wages or at best greatly slowing wage growth.

Our dependence on other countries for many of our "necessities"?
 
Moyers Articulates Progressives' Frustrations With Obama
By Gilbert Mercier


Last night, Bill Moyers was a guest on Bill Maher’s show. The “conscience of American journalism” gave a 30 minutes interview that was a comprehensive and brilliant analysis, and should be used, quite frankly, as a manifesto for the progressive Democrats. If President Obama wants to be more than just a one term President, he should listen to the wise words of Bill Moyers, and he should revamp his political strategy accordingly. Progressives gave Obama the victory over Hillary Clinton in 2008, and they are now feeling that their candidate sold out to the same corporate Democrats who were running the show during the Clinton-era.

The main topics of the interview were health care reform, Afghanistan and the decline of the American empire.

On the health care reform debate, Moyers blamed the Democratic party. He singled out Rahm Emanuel, the President’s Chief of Staff, as the personification of the corporate Democrats who are telling the progressives to shut up. Moyers said that, in the last 30 years, Democrats have become more and more like Republicans by serving corporate interests and forgetting about the public interest. The corporate Democrats are caving in to the health care industry, the drug industry and Wall Street because they rely on massive contributions from the very same corporations to get re-elected.

Bill Moyers said:”I would rather see Obama go down fighting for vigorous strong principled public insurance, than to lose with a corporate-dominated bill…..People say Obama should be FDR. I would much rather see him be Theodore Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt loved to fight. I think if Obama fought instead of really finessed it so much, it would change the atmosphere.”

On Afghanistan, Moyers drew a dual analogy between Vietnam & Afghanistan and JFK & Obama. Bill Moyers thinks we need to come home from Afghanistan. Moyers said:”I think it would be a tragedy beyond description for this young, bright, exiting President to be drawn into an endless war in the same way that the last young, bright, exiting President was drawn into intervened in Vietnam.”

On America as an empire in decline, Bill Moyers said:”We are a very crippled giant suffering from self inflicted wounds that if we do not treat and heal, will in fact bring us to our knees and ultimately to our doom. We are close to losing the moral, financial, economic muscle and wisdom that makes a big nation a great nation.”

Let’s hope the passing of his friend and mentor, Ted Kennedy, will give President Obama an epiphany of some sort, and get him out of his White House bubble so he can remember what he was elected to do. Bill Moyers wants the President to fight on behalf of the American people and for the greater good, it is likely that Ted Kennedy would have pushed him in the same direction than Bill Moyers.

It isn't as though I didn't tell you this was coming.

As I've been saying since before he was elected, Obama is not a liberal, not a progressive, not a fighter, not a bringer of "change", not what he appears to be at all.

He's a centrist .. thus his only motivation is to get elected .. and therein lies the key to how democrats can push him into better policy.

Stop kissing his ass.

Let him know that he can't take the left for granted.
 
It isn't as though I didn't tell you this was coming.

As I've been saying since before he was elected, Obama is not a liberal, not a progressive, not a fighter, not a bringer of "change", not what he appears to be at all.

He's a centrist .. thus his only motivation is to get elected .. and therein lies the key to how democrats can push him into better policy.

Stop kissing his ass.

Let him know that he can't take the left for granted.

Saw this today BAC.

""On health care, Obama’s willingness to forgo the public option is sure to anger his party’s liberal base. But some administration officials welcome a showdown with liberal lawmakers if they argue they would rather have no health care law than an incremental one. The confrontation would allow Obama to show he is willing to stare down his own party to get things done.""

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26672.html
 
Yeah stop jailing for pot is going to make us great again?
Sure...

What about our debt?
Healthcare system?
Education system?
Declining manufacturing sector?

Global competition lowering our wages or at best greatly slowing wage growth.

Our dependence on other countries for many of our "necessities"?

Had you gone to college you wouldn't be so narrowminded to miss what 800,000 otherwise productive citizens can contribute to the economy.
Police state vs Free state I know its a lot for you to grasp but give it a try:clink:
 
Saw this today BAC.

""On health care, Obama’s willingness to forgo the public option is sure to anger his party’s liberal base. But some administration officials welcome a showdown with liberal lawmakers if they argue they would rather have no health care law than an incremental one. The confrontation would allow Obama to show he is willing to stare down his own party to get things done.""

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26672.html

All a mindfuck sideshow brother. In the end, the corporate will will get everything it wants.

The democrat/republican sideshow will keep dumbed-down Americans occupied with gotcha politics .. but in the end ....
 
All a mindfuck sideshow brother. In the end, the corporate will will get everything it wants.

The democrat/republican sideshow will keep dumbed-down Americans occupied with gotcha politics .. but in the end ....

You actually have a rather defeated attitude when it comes to justice.

That's probably why you're on board with the internationalist fascist new world order. You think you have no choice.

how sad to be boxed in by your own fear.
 
You actually have a rather defeated attitude when it comes to justice.

That's probably why you're on board with the internationalist fascist new world order. You think you have no choice.

how sad to be boxed in by your own fear.

You make no sense sir.

You're just a gaggle of programmed jingoistic nonsense .. almost child-like.

What happened to you?
 
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