"Texas elementary school shooting: 16 dead, including 14 kids"

obviously if owning guns were illegal this would never have happened.......people who kill 19 second graders would never break the law, would they?......

There is no question that if guns like the AR15 were made illegal or restricted 20 yrs ago those 19 kids would be alive right now. Assholes who say there are too many guns so lets's do nothing are narrow minded fools. How about in 50 years? Countries that do not allow guns don't have the murders we do and those who restrict them have far fewer. The assholes who say guns make us safer are complete morons. If that were true we would be the safest country on the planet and we aren't. We have had 3 mass shootings in the last 2 weeks.
 
Agreed. Why didn't Obama offer that?

It's a mental illness issue. If not a gun, then chain the doors shut and burn down the entire school, make propane bombs, drive a loaded truck (mass) through a crowd, etc.

The problem is sick people harming others. The Democratic solution is to punish all the innocent people out of fear.

I just read the other day that a child was waiting in the car while his mom ran into the store to pick something up. The kid found her gun in the car and she returned to find he had blown his brains out. That is a mental health issue too, the mom's mental health. It's always a mental health issue. it's a sorry fucking excuse to blame mental health issues on gun deaths, get the fucking guns out of the hands of those with mental health issues and you solve the problem. It's the ONLY way to solve the problem.

Those with mental health issues that don't have a gun don't commit mass murders. Those that have them and a gun do commit them so it is obviously not just mental health but a mental health issues plus a gun. If you don't address both you don't solve the problem. Saying it's a mental health issue and the gun has nothing to do with it is fucking stupid.
 
Obviously there are problems with the system since Ramos bought two and Dylann Roof leaked through.

Republicans don't think it is a problem, they recently passed a constitutional carry law in Texas and say Ramos was perfectly within his rights to buy 2 AR 15's inside of 4 days. I hope they are proud of themselves. How anyone can vote for one is beyond me.
 
I have never been a registered democrat or republican but can say I never voted for a democrat for president until John Kerry (I thought Bush was a bubbling idiot). I have been voting since Nixon. I can also say I have not voted for a republican since and can not see myself doing so again under any circumstances. This gun issue is a classic reason why. If this country wants something done concerning regulating guns there is really only one way to do it, don't vote for a fucking republican! Same with a woman's right to choose, don't vote for a fucking republican! Same with our disgustingly lopsided tax code, don't vote for a fucking republican!

20 years ago republicans were different, today they are fascist fuckwads.

Thanks. Agreed with not voting Republican and I'd add don't vote Democrat either. Vote both parties out of office since voting for the lesser of two evils is still evil.
 
Republicans don't think it is a problem, they recently passed a constitutional carry law in Texas and say Ramos was perfectly within his rights to buy 2 AR 15's inside of 4 days. I hope they are proud of themselves. How anyone can vote for one is beyond me.

The Republicans don't care. They only care about money and power.
 
I just read the other day that a child was waiting in the car while his mom ran into the store to pick something up. The kid found her gun in the car and she returned to find he had blown his brains out. That is a mental health issue too, the mom's mental health. It's always a mental health issue. it's a sorry fucking excuse to blame mental health issues on gun deaths, get the fucking guns out of the hands of those with mental health issues and you solve the problem. It's the ONLY way to solve the problem.

Those with mental health issues that don't have a gun don't commit mass murders. Those that have them and a gun do commit them so it is obviously not just mental health but a mental health issues plus a gun. If you don't address both you don't solve the problem. Saying it's a mental health issue and the gun has nothing to do with it is fucking stupid.

I strongly doubt we'll ever be able to eliminate human error. Airline pilots are strictly regulated and exceptionally trained yet they still fly into the ground.

You believe people who drive into crowds, blow themselves up or poison others are sane?

Fine. Keep repeating the same efforts Bill Clinton started 30 years ago and expect different result.
 
I officially give up. If two separate mass murders of little kids doesn't get you to agree that enhanced background checks are necessary, we are done as a society. Buy all the fucking guns you want. Go blow up shit in the woods. And please let me know when all those fucking guns you have stop the mass murder of a bunch of kids. Just once. I'll wait.

Very true and why I say the only way to solve this problem is to stop voting for republicans. That is really the only way to solve the problem. If the democrats had 60 seats in the senate the past 20 yrs those kids would be alive today.
 
I officially give up. If two separate mass murders of little kids doesn't get you to agree that enhanced background checks are necessary, we are done as a society. Buy all the fucking guns you want. Go blow up shit in the woods. And please let me know when all those fucking guns you have stop the mass murder of a bunch of kids. Just once. I'll wait.

Its fucking insane - people getting off on taking selfies of themselves with big guns. Evil pricks.
 
Very true and why I say the only way to solve this problem is to stop voting for republicans. That is really the only way to solve the problem. If the democrats had 60 seats in the senate the past 20 yrs those kids would be alive today.

Amen. Vote straight blue from now on from the school board up. We need to flush the Taliban.
 
getting rid of an unconstitutional and unenforceable vague EO.........no president can legislate via EO

No president has ever suggested or been behind doing away with the right to bear arms so why don't you just shut the fuck up. Plenty of "arms" are illegal today and we still have the 2nd amendment. Nothing about that EO was unconstitutional. You are simply a moron who doesn't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
 
why isn't the Palestinian suicide vest society on a par with the American gun society?......is it because you glorify one but not the other......

Do you not understand why the Palestinian may use a bomb to kill Jews? How that can be compared to the issue with guns in this country only a fucking idiot could guess.
 
banning guns would make things worse......mass murderers would turn to explosives and suicide vests and the death toll would skyrocket.......

Bullshit. Mass murderers like pulling the trigger and watching their victims die, they don't get that with a bomb. Besides, if they have to turn to using a bomb because guns were banned and bombs are already banned how are they going to turn to them?
 
Do you not understand why the Palestinian may use a bomb to kill Jews? How that can be compared to the issue with guns in this country only a fucking idiot could guess.

Are you saying the Palestinian suicide bombers are sane?
 
Thanks. Agreed with not voting Republican and I'd add don't vote Democrat either. Vote both parties out of office since voting for the lesser of two evils is still evil.

No, not voting democrat or republican is no different than supporting both. You support the democrat by not voting republican and support the republican by not voting democrat. You accomplish nothing.
 
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