Should Biden run again?

ExpressLane said:
Dear idiot, Comey was overstepping his authority to say Clinton would not be indicted. That was the USAG's job you know the same AG that was having a secret meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac of an airport. The classified documents laws don't require proof of intend .
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evince said:
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18 U.S.C. § 793 Subsection F sets forth the following:

Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
 
Jarod said:
My answer is no.


He was the best choice to help return to less hostility after the Trump Administration, and he provided a good moderate four year transition, but it’s time for a new generation to take over and lead us into this new age.

He knows how to beat Trump, but it’s very unlikely Trump will be the Republican nominee.

Biden comes from a different age, he is too old. I want a Democrat who is young and energetic with new fresh ideas. Someone more like Obama but for the new generation.

Biden was elected by the “not Trump” constituency, he does not seem to have a natural constituency other than not being Trump. Now it seems Trump is out… so let’s move on to someone who can put it together based on a new ideology of fresh ideas of their own… while using the less bombastic style of Biden.


I’m ready to move to a younger candidate.
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Continue to live in cloud cuckoo land, reality will give you a good arse kicking come November

Biden’s unpopularity is set to hit the Democrats in the crucial mid-term elections in November where the Republicans are set to win both Houses of Congress

The poll suggests a 50 percent to 41 percent vote in favour of the Republicans for the House of Representatives, giving them 264 seats to 171.

In the Senate race, the Republicans come out on top 48 percent to 42 percent giving them control of the upper House by 54 to 46.

This heightens the chances of impeachment proceedings starting against Biden over allegations surrounding the business activities of his son Hunter.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...p-voters-2020-elections-white-house-poll-news
 
Primavera said:
Continue to live in cloud cuckoo land, reality will give you a good arse kicking come November

Biden’s unpopularity is set to hit the Democrats in the crucial mid-term elections in November where the Republicans are set to win both Houses of Congress

The poll suggests a 50 percent to 41 percent vote in favour of the Republicans for the House of Representatives, giving them 264 seats to 171.

In the Senate race, the Republicans come out on top 48 percent to 42 percent giving them control of the upper House by 54 to 46.

This heightens the chances of impeachment proceedings starting against Biden over allegations surrounding the business activities of his son Hunter.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...p-voters-2020-elections-white-house-poll-news
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Not after the public sees what the republicans did by watching the J/6 investigation
 
ExpressLane said:
18 U.S.C. § 793 Subsection F sets forth the following:

Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
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Gee then you must think trump should be prosecuted for all of he secret documents he stole and moved to Mira Largo
 
evince said:
The controversy was a major point of discussion and contention during the 2016 presidential election, in which Clinton was the Democratic nominee. In May, the State Department's Office of the Inspector General released a report about the State Department's email practices, including Clinton's. In July, FBI director James Comey announced that the FBI investigation had concluded that Clinton had been "extremely careless" but recommended that no charges be filed because Clinton did not act with criminal intent, the historical standard for pursuing prosecution.[7]
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Dutch Uncle said:
She violated classified material protocols which is a crime. The fact Loretta Lynch decided not to prosecute doesn't make it less of a crime.


https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-rele...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system
Our investigation looked at whether there is evidence classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on that personal system, in violation of a federal statute making it a felony to mishandle classified information either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way, or a second statute making it a misdemeanor to knowingly remove classified information from appropriate systems or storage facilities....

...Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.
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at least you're smart enough to see which way the wind is blowing...
 
I haven't read all of the posts on the thread, but I don't think Biden should run again.
Although it is ridiculous, people blame his for the inflation. And he's just too old for anyone other than Bernie to be a candidate.

As qualified as she is, I'm not confident that Vice President Harris can win either.
The Red States have sabotaged the process so that we can't snatch any of them.

A big red sweep will be the final nail in America's coffin.
That will bring the civilized states' call for partition...which is of course overdue.
 
Flash said:
Yes, there are negatives. On the other hand, to refuse to nominate him admits he was a mistake.
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I think it could be spun that he was never going to be more than a one term President who served his purpose in getting Trump out of office. Now the fact that he’s seems to have expressed interest in running for re-election may belie that claim somewhat. But he’ll be 82 and it’s understandable he could step aside (of course poor numbers are a driver as well)
 
Jarod said:
My answer is no.


He was the best choice to help return to less hostility after the Trump Administration, and he provided a good moderate four year transition, but it’s time for a new generation to take over and lead us into this new age.

He knows how to beat Trump, but it’s very unlikely Trump will be the Republican nominee.

Biden comes from a different age, he is too old. I want a Democrat who is young and energetic with new fresh ideas. Someone more like Obama but for the new generation.

Biden was elected by the “not Trump” constituency, he does not seem to have a natural constituency other than not being Trump. Now it seems Trump is out… so let’s move on to someone who can put it together based on a new ideology of fresh ideas of their own… while using the less bombastic style of Biden.


I’m ready to move to a younger candidate.
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I believe your answer to be wrong. It would only hurt Democrats chances of retaining the White House. If Biden were to, God forbid, die from an illness before his term was up that would be a different story but even then it wouldn’t help though it wouldn’t hurt either.

Having the sitting President as the incumbent candidate is a significant advantage.

Biden is actually sitting in a fairly good position and it would be even better if the GOP re-nominates Trump.

Biden is sitting in a fairly decent position when measured by metrics and not polls and using the metrics is proving to be a better predictor than polls.

Biden currently has three metrics in which he needs to win only one to get re-elected unless something drastically changes between now and the election. They are;

The economy during the election year. If the nation does not enter into a recession during the election year that would favor Biden. There’s no real way of predicting if that will be the case. We have wait till election year.

Next is what happens in the Ukraine. If before the next election the situation is resolved in the Ukraine and is perceived as a NATO victory the it will be a U.S. Victory and that will again benefit Biden.

Third is long term economic growth. If the average real economic growth is equal to or greater than the average of the two terms before Biden’s then that metric would favor Biden. As it stands right now Biden is winning that metric despite high inflation. Though that could change if he doesn’t find a way to manage inflation.

If Biden wins just one of those metrics his odds of his winning re-election are pretty good.

If he wins two of those three metrics he’s almost certain to win. Conversely if he loses all three metrics he will almost certainly lose.

If Biden does not run then the Democratic candidate will need to win two of those metrics to win. If another Democratic candidate makes a significant primary run against Biden the regardless of who wins Democrats will need to win all three of those metrics unless his primary challenger is extremely charismatic and wins the nomination. Then Democrats would still need to win two of those metrics. Seeing the current crop of Democratic potential primary candidates that’s unlikely to happen. Though it’s a possibility.

So no, I think you’re wrong. I think that if Biden’s health permits he should run as that would give Democrats the greater probability of winning.
 
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