Cops have no constitutional duty to protect you

Dutch Uncle said:
In fact, I doubt you'd be able to supervise anything that requires sound judgement since you strike me as being far too emotional and, TBH, a bit unstable.
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Well, you'd make a terrible manager because you just accept whatever anyone tells you as the truth.

The cops have already lied about Uvalde, so why would you trust anything they have to say about it?

Are you a cop? That's the only explanation for why you'd defend them after what they did (or didn't do) in Uvalde.
 
Bigdog said:
Cracka pleez,

You white libs have been doing everything you can to destroy law and order. You want to create chaos. Then you will claim we need a federal Gestapo force to control American citizens.

Similar to the leftist gestapo agent that murdered Ashli Babbitt for trespassing. He was soooo brave, according to leftists. :palm:
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How come on 1/6, your punk ass was here on JPP and not in DC stopping the steal you alleged occurred?

Because you didn't actually believe the election was stolen, right? That's why you didn't go to DC that day to save the country.

You just have a big mouth.
 
LV426 said:
You sure about that? Sure seems like the cops want it to happen again so they can whine and bitch about how scared they are of an AR-15, yet won't have their police union put pressure on lawmakers to ban it.

All cops are bad.
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Disagreed, but thanks once again for revealing your over-the-top hysteria.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
my EXACT words were the POTENTIAL for fraud. your memory is shit.
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AHHHHH so now comes the goalpost shifting!

"Potential for fraud" is the same thing as accusing fraud.

So already you've had to redefine what you said because you just realized you stepped in a big pile of your own bullshit.

So you did question the integrity of the 2020 election by saying there's potential fraud in mail balloting even though you haven't provided a single shred of evidence that leads you to such a conclusion.
 
LV426 said:
Well, you'd make a terrible manager because you just accept whatever anyone tells you as the truth.

The cops have already lied about Uvalde, so why would you trust anything they have to say about it?

Are you a cop? That's the only explanation for why you'd defend them after what they did (or didn't do) in Uvalde.
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Incorrect. Like the Uvalde and Las Vegas shootings, I'm content to wait for the investigations to be completed before making a judgment.

It's not just the Uvlade police department doing the investigation. Both the State and Federal agencies are involved. Let's not forget that Border Patrol was not only on the scene but the ones pushing to go after the shooter.

Not a cop but I support all the good people serving as police, firemen, the military and all over jobs that support our communities and our nation.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Not a lawyer, but the SCOTUS decision was about domestic violence and restraining orders. I'm not sure how it applies to the Uvalde situation.

Also, while there may not be a Constitutional requirement for police to arrest or protect, there might be state or municipal requirements or procedures.

Again, I'm content to await completion of the investigation.
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Everything I have read, even their oath, there is absolutely no mention of protecting and serving, although they do put it on a lot of police cars. I find nothing in their agreement that says they are obligated in anyway to put their lives on the line.
 
LV426 said:
AHHHHH so now comes the goalpost shifting!

"Potential for fraud" is the same thing as accusing fraud.

So already you've had to redefine what you said because you just realized you stepped in a big pile of your own bullshit.

So you did question the integrity of the 2020 election by saying there's potential fraud in mail balloting even though you haven't provided a single shred of evidence that leads you to such a conclusion.
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you are so full of shit you liar..........you're doing the same gaslighting bullshit you've always done, like calling me a racist because I DON'T look at skin color.......so fuck off, hypocritical pussy

and stop stealing my fucking topics like cops having to duty to protect you, you POS trash
 
Phantasmal said:
Everything I have read, even their oath, there is absolutely no mention of protecting and serving, although they do put it on a lot of police cars. I find nothing in their agreement that says they are obligated in anyway to put their lives on the line.
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Okay. Isn't that Uvalde's problem? The State's?
 
LV426 said:
We aren't going to get a single report from anyone on this.

Just like we never got a report on the Paddock shooting in Vegas 5 years ago.

The feds aren't going to conduct an investigation and even if they did, the TX authorities won't cooperate...they already aren't cooperating with the city council.
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Care to bet on it?

The Las Vegas report has already been posted.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
yes, because you're a fucking liar. you post an article that details a 2008 case, one I posted about back in 2008, but you also IGNORE, like a leftist stooge, that the ORIGINAL case decided in 1989......why would that be?
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The SCOTUS decision was in 2005, not 2008, and the article I posted discussed the 2005 case because the article was from...2005:

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone
June 28, 2005
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/...ot-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
 
Matt Dillon said:
Therefore you have a Constitutional right and duty to protect yourself.
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So then what is the point of the police?


When you only have seconds, the police are just minutes away.
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But there's no guarantee those cops will even help you, if they choose to even show up to your 911 call in the first place.


They'll have your carcass hauled off and half-ass try to catch who did it..kinda.
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Unless they were the ones who killed me, in which case I would get blamed for my own murder.
 
Kinda makes police not worth the money we spend for them if they won’t protect you when someone is trying to break in your house


They can just wait until the person kills you and watch until that perp comes out carrying your valuables and shoot them while their hands are full


Really much safer for them
 
evince said:
Kinda makes police not worth the money we spend for them if they won’t protect you when someone is trying to break in your house


They can just wait until the person kills you and watch until that perp comes out carrying your valuables and shoot them while their hands are full


Really much safer for them
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That's how it is. Gone are the days of police being the "good guys".

I blame it on the leftist indoctrination in the schools.

With me; I'm gonna kill the motherfuckers and then think long and hard on whether or not to call the law or just dispose of the bodies.

For sure I'd get arrested for homicide until with an expensive lawyer I could prove it was justifiable; They'd take all my good stuff for evidence and I'd have to pay lots of money to get it

back, too. They wouldn't just take the weapon I killed the motherfuckers with and stop there. :nono:

They'd take everything and all the computer stuff, too. (just in case, don'tcha know)

We talked about this a few weeks ago amongst the fellers. They're not gonna just take the weapons you used, they're gonna take a lot of stuff.

Everything; Because now you're an accused 1st-degree felon.

Anything that could possibly be used against you, even though you were only protecting your life, your family, and your property. That's reality.

It's really a bad situation. It might be different in other counties, but it is not here.
 
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