You will own nothing and you will be happy.

We can thank the Fed for so many institutional investors getting into the residential market. Does the business model make sense with higher rates and a slowing market (or prices dropping)? Not sure it does. They may have millions ready to be deployed but no guarantee they do in these conditions. Talking to folks who do this they’ve said they are reevaluating their strategy going forward

The interest rate is still below historical average. Average cost is still above market. Individuals and first time buyers just can't close a deal (and haven't been able to for very long time), but they're still submitting them.
 
The interest rate is still below historical average. Average cost is still above market. Individuals and first time buyers just can't close a deal (and haven't been able to for very long time), but they're still submitting them.

it's called creating an asset bubble.

this is what modern financiers do. The three card monty bubblecraft gambit.
 
The interest rate is still below historical average. Average cost is still above market. Individuals and first time buyers just can't close a deal (and haven't been able to for very long time), but they're still submitting them.

I spoke in the late ‘aughts to the CEO of our firm (we invested in only commercial or multi-family) and he had mentioned looking into the residential market but it just didn’t pencil out (too much inefficiencies). I spoke with him recently and he said with technological advancements there are a lot more efficiencies for these large institutional investors to handle these portfolios of SFH. I don’t think these firms will exit the market but with rates rising and lower appreciation they will reevaluate how aggressively they continue on the same purchasing path.

Edit: FWIW, our firm had $50B in AUM at the time I spoke with our CEO in the late aughts so we were a type of firm that could have gotten into the SFH market if management so desired (doesn’t mean we would have been successful of course but we had the capital to do so.)
 
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Oh. The drama.

Really no more or less than at any other time in our history. What's changing is that social mobility--a major hallmark of American history--is rapidly coming to an end. More and more, Americans are finding themselves stuck where they are in society economically and socially. The paths that used to be open for this in America are slowly being choked to death, primarily from the Left. Some examples:

Destruction of organized religion (being involved in one and a church gave you a social path to success outside of church)

There aren't any churches where you live?

Destruction of the nuclear family and marriage (a major route for women who typically marry "up.")

Those are very different things. No one "destroyed" the nuclear family. People just started having few kids because they got smarter; and younger people delayed starting families because they wanted to live their best lives while they still had their teeth. Nothing's wrong with marriage unless you have a problem with gay people doing it. Your comment about women "marrying up" is typically offensive.

Education (even a good high school education could get you into a good job, while college was affordable. Now neither is the case)

Conservatives dismantled public education and don't go to college. Hell, they actually despise people who do go to college.

Inheritance (Onerously high inheritance taxes are a staple of the Left. Why should you inherit the family farm or family wealth and grow it?

I'm not a fan of inheritance taxes, but I see a fundamental unfairness to some Americans being able to accumulate, not through effort but by family connections, billions of dollars while others make $30,000 a year.

Generational improvement (abortion abstinence, and lack of children--again the nuclear family all leave one generation to the next without this path)

Because the answer is have more kids. :palm:

Ownership (be it land or "stuff" Americans over generations grew wealth through ownership. That's being taken away by taxes and government policy)

Those are just a few of the paths the Left has done everything possible to remove from society. Without them, most people stand little chance of moving up and certainly families cannot over generations like they traditionally did. It makes most of society into proles and peasants locked into servitude and destitution by their masters, The Rich and government.
 
No, I'm a White man!

Do you honestly believe White Men are capable of being racists? :laugh:

1....EVERYONE is capable

2...Not only do I love being a white man,...I am extremely proud of my heritage. We ALL should be regardless of what that heritage may be. I have bigtime love for my people.
 
Exactly. The Left has been successful in getting people out of these things. Here's a good paper on it

https://www.tesd.net/cms/lib/PA01001259/Centricity/Domain/1114/BowlingAlone.pdf

It's the loss of group activities that has made the social glue come apart. Top that off with a stripping of the means to accumulate wealth over generations and you get a society where a small fraction of people can succeed and the rest end up pawns.

You think that liberals eliminated group activities? It couldn't have possibly had anything to do with the internet, right? And I don't know about you, but I attend group activities constantly (except when there's a global pandemic).
 
shooting is a bit of an overreaction to a mostly peaceful protest, dont you think?

Oh, certainly to mostly peaceful protests like many of the BLM events. The attempted coup at the Capitol was an open and hostile attack on the US government, its Capitol, its elected officials, and its voters.
 
Oh, certainly to mostly peaceful protests like many of the BLM events. The attempted coup at the Capitol was an open and hostile attack on the US government, its Capitol, its elected officials, and its voters.

lol.

no it wasn't. everybody knows the dems are just producing fake news.
 
You think that liberals eliminated group activities? It couldn't have possibly had anything to do with the internet, right? And I don't know about you, but I attend group activities constantly (except when there's a global pandemic).

yeah. I saw you down at the glory hole.
 
I spoke in the late ‘aughts to the CEO of our firm (we invested in only commercial or multi-family) and he had mentioned looking into the residential market but it just didn’t pencil out (too much inefficiencies). I spoke with him recently and he said with technological advancements there are a lot more efficiencies for these large institutional investors to handle these portfolios of SFH. I don’t think these firms will exist the market but with rates rising and lower appreciation they will reevaluate how aggressively they continue on the same purchasing path.

Edit: FWIW, our firm had $50B in AUM at the time I spoke with our CEO in the late aughts so we were a type of firm that could have gotten into the SFH market if management so desired (doesn’t mean we would have been of course but we had the capital to do so.)

I think the Great Recession helped that situation a lot. Banks and courts weren't in the real estate business and didn't know how to manage real estate ownership and management during all the foreclosures and receiverships. They created all those relationships and now can own properties they didn't know how to or didn't want to in the past.
 
But what happens to those of us that already own homes and other properties but refuse to sell? I get crap sent to me every other day from realtors telling me how much our properties have risen in value and if I would consider selling. I just throw the shit in the garbage. The answer is a hard NO,...not for any price.

What happens when you refuse to sell? Then you continue to own your property. Just like yesterday. Just like today. Just like tomorrow. This is the dumbest fucking thread I've seen in a long time.
 
where did it come from in the first place?

they made it out of thin air.

Real estate has a value attached to it. When you spend one amount of money for a property and then later sell it for more, you've enjoyed the benefit of an appreciating market. All currency is "made out of thin air". You just don't understand a spit about economics.
 
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