Bye Bye Lake Mead

And guarantee if one took a poll in Arizona and Nevada, and might as well throw in Texas with their heat wave, a good number of the natives would say climate change is bogus
 
Very few people have yet managed to understand the catastrophic consequences of our failure to make much of an effort to manage water in the West over the last 40 years or so, we have been on autopilot, and now we are about to crash.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Very few people have yet managed to understand the catastrophic consequences of our failure to make much of an effort to manage water in the West over the last 40 years or so, we have been on autopilot, and now we are about to crash.
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Which has caught up on them at an accelerated rate due to climate change
 
archives said:
Which has caught up on them at an accelerated rate due to climate change
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I am not sure about that, though we could easily go back at least 50 years to look at temps and precipitation in the West to verify that, which I have not seen done. I do know that rains and snow in California have always been iffy since it was settled by non-indians, that was the entire point of the massive water projects which stopped in the 1970's, even as we have allowed the population to expand massively. This was always going to get to disaster eventually, and now we are there. For instance because we dont capture enough water and because we send so much water to the ocean to keep the fish in the rivers and streams happy a lot of water pumping has been taking place. I recently heard VDH say that the aquifers are near collapse. This never should have happened, the emergency water supply being destroyed.
 
One of the big problems with the claim that we are looking at the consequences of climate change is that I was reading 40 years ago that we would get here with Lake Powell if we did not change course, experts were saying that what we do will not work in the long term as we keep adding population and using so much water for farming. We were told that we needed to up our water management game, and we never did. Like so much else that has turned to shit in America we had so much warning that we needed to do better, but we could never be bothered.
 
30% of the California Aqueduct water is lost to leaks and evaporation, which we have known for a very long time, which we could have ended, but we could never be bothered.
 
LV426 said:
Was there in 2006 and back then, it was an actual lake.

Now?

AP PHOTOS: Extremely low levels at Lake Mead amid drought
BOULDER CITY, Nev. (AP) — An abandoned old power boat juts upright from the cracked mud like a giant tombstone. Its epitaph might read: Here lay the waters of Lake Mead.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-photos-amid-drought-lake-043819296.html
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WHo would have thought an unnatural human-created thing wouldn't be sustainable in the real world.
 
I wonder what causes lakes to dry up. There used to be several lakes in a place called Keystone Heights. I heard all the lakes have dried up now, hard to believe. Used to go there as a child to a relative's lake house.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I am not sure about that, though we could easily go back at least 50 years to look at temps and precipitation in the West to verify that, which I have not seen done. I do know that rains and snow in California have always been iffy since it was settled by non-indians, that was the entire point of the massive water projects which stopped in the 1970's, even as we have allowed the population to expand massively. This was always going to get to disaster eventually, and now we are there. For instance because we dont capture enough water and because we send so much water to the ocean to keep the fish in the rivers and streams happy a lot of water pumping has been taking place. I recently heard VDH say that the aquifers are near collapse. This never should have happened, the emergency water supply being destroyed.
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This is the first real argument I can remember seeing from you. Those studies have been done. They can be quickly accessed at Google. It seems the trouble is climate change combined with poor water management and increased water demand.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/04/210406092659.htm
 
archives said:
And guarantee if one took a poll in Arizona and Nevada, and might as well throw in Texas with their heat wave, a good number of the natives would say climate change is bogus
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I wonder how many will realize overpopulation of dry areas is the real problem......southern California should learn how make their own drinkable water instead of just trying to seize everyone else's........
 
LV426 said:
Was there in 2006 and back then, it was an actual lake.

Now?

AP PHOTOS: Extremely low levels at Lake Mead amid drought
BOULDER CITY, Nev. (AP) — An abandoned old power boat juts upright from the cracked mud like a giant tombstone. Its epitaph might read: Here lay the waters of Lake Mead.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-photos-amid-drought-lake-043819296.html
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Bye Bye and back in the sewer of stupid shit such as a troll of yourself and your kind. Now consider facts versus your bye bye fiction:

Lake Mead has a somewhat larger shortage, about 8 trillion gallons, but it could be filled in about 370 days at 250,000 gallons/sec.

https://www.desertsun.com/story/opi...han-year-via-mississippi-aqueduct/7751467001/
 
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PostmodernProphet said:
I wonder how many will realize overpopulation of dry areas is the real problem......southern California should learn how make their own drinkable water instead of just trying to seize everyone else's........
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They should have opened desalination plants all over the Californian coast but haven't. Of course the usual suspects like the Coastal Commission are against it.

Agency unanimously rejects California desalination project

The California Coastal Commission has rejected a long-standing proposal to build a $1.4 billion seawater desalination plant to turn ocean water into drinking water

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/amid-drought-california-desalination-project-crossroads-84662737
 
America has got places with nowhere near enough water...parched Earth and dried out lakes and reservoirs

...and other places where they have too goddam much water...constant flooding and water damage.

We can get oil from one place to another through pipes with no trouble.

Why can't we get water moved that same way?
 
Primavera said:
They should have opened desalination plants all over the Californian coast but haven't. Of course the usual suspects like the Coastal Commission are against it.

Agency unanimously rejects California desalination project

The California Coastal Commission has rejected a long-standing proposal to build a $1.4 billion seawater desalination plant to turn ocean water into drinking water

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/amid-drought-california-desalination-project-crossroads-84662737
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from the link....
faced ardent opposition from environmentalists who said drawing in large amounts of ocean water and releasing salty discharge back into the ocean would kill billions of tiny marine organisms that make up the base of the food chain along a large swath of the coast.
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they fear the loss of some tiny marine organisms but have no problem forcing the fly-over farmers to sacrifice for their thirst.......
 
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LV426 said:
Was there in 2006 and back then, it was an actual lake.

Now?

AP PHOTOS: Extremely low levels at Lake Mead amid drought
BOULDER CITY, Nev. (AP) — An abandoned old power boat juts upright from the cracked mud like a giant tombstone. Its epitaph might read: Here lay the waters of Lake Mead.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-photos-amid-drought-lake-043819296.html
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Old men with metal detectors must be going crazy! Lots of treasure to be found. :thup:

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