Simulation shows why World Trade Center towers fell: it's the heat

┐(´-`)┌;520025 said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/sep/10/9-11-towers-simulation-engineering



More unscientific sheeple (national geographic, guardian, purdue university) have debunked conspiracy theorists yet again.

:lmao:

The heat

:lamo:

Of course it was only New York heat because such an event has NEVER EVER HAPPENED BEFORE .. and hiow does this explain WTC7 .. and why didn't "the heat" melt the Pentagon, a much smaller building hit by the same type plane with about the same amount of fuel .. but couldn't even melt the pages on a paper book next to the impact site .. and the roof didn't collapse until half an hour later even though the plane was about as tall as the building.

:0) .. Yep, I got it.

Ok, Ok .. let me get this straight less I be accused of "conspiracy" :0)

The heat travelled around the buildings from the top floors and weakened the structures with the same amount of energy, thus causing the buildings to collapse uniformly in about 10 seconds .. and "the heat" was so intense that it travelled down the street and melted WTC7 which was only having small fires and caused that building to uniformly collapse in about 6 seconds

Excuse me .. so sorry to break into this wonderful show of "patriotism" .. but the laughs are just too delicious.

my bad.

:0)
 
Explosive Theory

Eight years after 9/11, a growing organization of building trades professionals suspect that there was more to the event than the government will admit.

JUST A FEW YEARS ago Ed Munyak, a fire protection engineer for the city of San Jose, seemed like a lonely, out-there figure, a sometimes-target because of his outspoken position on the events of Sept. 11, 2001. These days, hundreds of other building trade professionals have joined him in challenging the official narrative about the collapse of three buildings at New York's World Trade Center (WTC) on that fateful, traumatic day.

Munyak, of Los Altos Hills, is a mechanical and fire engineer whose job is to review building plans to ensure they comply with the California Building and Fire Code. In 2007, after speaking out on his own for a few years, Munyak signed on with a then-fledging organization called Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth (AE911 Truth), founded by Bay Area architect Richard Gage.

Today, far from being isolated, Munyak now counts as allies 804 professional architects and building engineers from around the country. Collectively, they have joined Munyak's call for an independent technical investigation of the causes of the WTC buildings collapse. In doing so, they reject the federal government's conclusions that two airplanes alone brought the buildings down—without the aid of pre-planted explosives.

Munyak and his fellow AE911 supporters recently received acknowledgement from the FBI's counterterrorism division, which concluded that the organization's core evidence deserves—and will get—FBI scrutiny. In a letter, Deputy Director Michael J. Heimbach assessed AE911's presentation as "backed by thorough research and analysis."

Munyak and his professional allies insist that they are not conspiracy theorists, and they refuse to speculate on the "why" or "who" of 9/11. Munyak described their basic position in an interview with Metro.

"Buildings do not fail from fire related causes in the way that World Trade Center 1, 2 and 7 failed. Steel frame or composite steel buildings, modern high-rise buildings—they just do not collapse catastrophically like that. It's impossible.

"Only if you sever columns in some other way will those buildings collapse. It takes too much energy, and that energy was not there even with adding in all that jet fuel. It defies all engineering analysis and theory that those buildings collapsed in that manner. It just doesn't make any sense."

-- more at link
http://www.metroactive.com/metro/09.09.09/cover-0936.html

I have NO doubt how this is going to end.
 
:lmao:

The heat

:lamo:

Of course it was only New York heat because such an event has NEVER EVER HAPPENED BEFORE .. and hiow does this explain WTC7 .. and why didn't "the heat" melt the Pentagon, a much smaller building hit by the same type plane with about the same amount of fuel .. but couldn't even melt the pages on a paper book next to the impact site .. and the roof didn't collapse until half an hour later even though the plane was about as tall as the building.

:0) .. Yep, I got it.

Ok, Ok .. let me get this straight less I be accused of "conspiracy" :0)

The heat travelled around the buildings from the top floors and weakened the structures with the same amount of energy, thus causing the buildings to collapse uniformly in about 10 seconds .. and "the heat" was so intense that it travelled down the street and melted WTC7 which was only having small fires and caused that building to uniformly collapse in about 6 seconds

Excuse me .. so sorry to break into this wonderful show of "patriotism" .. but the laughs are just too delicious.

my bad.

:0)
In the towers, the steel was softened by the heat at the impact site so that the weight of the floors above collapsed it.

WTC7 burned out of control until its lower floors collapsed for the same reason.

The Pentagon is mainly masonry and concrete and not multi-story. Heat was easily dissipated out through the sides and roof.
 
:lmao:

The heat

:lamo:

Of course it was only New York heat because such an event has NEVER EVER HAPPENED BEFORE .. and hiow does this explain WTC7 .. and why didn't "the heat" melt the Pentagon, a much smaller building hit by the same type plane with about the same amount of fuel .. but couldn't even melt the pages on a paper book next to the impact site .. and the roof didn't collapse until half an hour later even though the plane was about as tall as the building.

:0) .. Yep, I got it.

Ok, Ok .. let me get this straight less I be accused of "conspiracy" :0)

The heat travelled around the buildings from the top floors and weakened the structures with the same amount of energy, thus causing the buildings to collapse uniformly in about 10 seconds .. and "the heat" was so intense that it travelled down the street and melted WTC7 which was only having small fires and caused that building to uniformly collapse in about 6 seconds

Excuse me .. so sorry to break into this wonderful show of "patriotism" .. but the laughs are just too delicious.

my bad.

:0)
Translation: I didn't watch it.
 
Explosive Theory

Eight years after 9/11, a growing organization of building trades professionals suspect that there was more to the event than the government will admit.

JUST A FEW YEARS ago Ed Munyak, a fire protection engineer for the city of San Jose, seemed like a lonely, out-there figure, a sometimes-target because of his outspoken position on the events of Sept. 11, 2001. These days, hundreds of other building trade professionals have joined him in challenging the official narrative about the collapse of three buildings at New York's World Trade Center (WTC) on that fateful, traumatic day.

Munyak, of Los Altos Hills, is a mechanical and fire engineer whose job is to review building plans to ensure they comply with the California Building and Fire Code. In 2007, after speaking out on his own for a few years, Munyak signed on with a then-fledging organization called Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth (AE911 Truth), founded by Bay Area architect Richard Gage.

Today, far from being isolated, Munyak now counts as allies 804 professional architects and building engineers from around the country. Collectively, they have joined Munyak's call for an independent technical investigation of the causes of the WTC buildings collapse. In doing so, they reject the federal government's conclusions that two airplanes alone brought the buildings down—without the aid of pre-planted explosives.

Munyak and his fellow AE911 supporters recently received acknowledgement from the FBI's counterterrorism division, which concluded that the organization's core evidence deserves—and will get—FBI scrutiny. In a letter, Deputy Director Michael J. Heimbach assessed AE911's presentation as "backed by thorough research and analysis."

Munyak and his professional allies insist that they are not conspiracy theorists, and they refuse to speculate on the "why" or "who" of 9/11. Munyak described their basic position in an interview with Metro.

"Buildings do not fail from fire related causes in the way that World Trade Center 1, 2 and 7 failed. Steel frame or composite steel buildings, modern high-rise buildings—they just do not collapse catastrophically like that. It's impossible.

"Only if you sever columns in some other way will those buildings collapse. It takes too much energy, and that energy was not there even with adding in all that jet fuel. It defies all engineering analysis and theory that those buildings collapsed in that manner. It just doesn't make any sense."

-- more at link
http://www.metroactive.com/metro/09.09.09/cover-0936.html

I have NO doubt how this is going to end.

Munyak isn't a structural engineer and has never designed a building.
 
Translation: I didn't watch it.

Au Contraire mon hackness.

That was cool simulation, but hardly convincing .. said nothing about WTC7 .. did not explain how weakness on the top floors would cause the towers to uniformly collapse at free fall speed .. lots of questions left unanswered .. and I recognize that my unanswered questions only means that I'm a racist .. and a conspiracy theorist .. only racists and conspiracy theorists have unanswered questions. It's not possiblt that some people have genuine qusetions.

I got that.

Also individually calling for a new inquiry are two dozen retired U.S. military brass and eight former U.S. State Department officials, along with a number of Republicans who have served in high federal positions since President Reagan, including former Assistant Treasury Secretary Paul Craig Roberts and former Reagan administration Assistant Defense Secretary (and retired Marine Corps colonel) Ronald D. Ray.
 
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It didn't say they collapsed at "free fall speed" because they didn't. You deliberately ignore what is inconsistent with your fabricated sequence of events. We've spent thread after thread showing you the data of actual scientists that work in that field, you give us links to people who have never designed a building and a mouth engineer then repeat nonsense like "their own footprint."

Throw in a bit of "Theory of Evolution" and viola... you've said something that is "science"...
 
┐(´-`)┌;520025 said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/sep/10/9-11-towers-simulation-engineering



More unscientific sheeple (national geographic, guardian, purdue university) have debunked conspiracy theorists yet again.

I am calling bullshit... we all know it was due to the illuminati in conjunction with Bush and Cheney who planted tons of bombs on the site (which of course were cloaked in invisibility so no one else could see them) who in turn detonated said bombs.

Or I could just say.... LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS!!!
 
Au Contraire mon hackness.

That was cool simulation, but hardly convincing .. said nothing about WTC7 .. did not explain how weakness on the top floors would cause the towers to uniformly collapse at free fall speed .. lots of questions left unanswered .. and I recognize that my unanswered questions only means that I'm a racist .. and a conspiracy theorist .. only racists and conspiracy theorists have unanswered questions. It's not possiblt that some people have genuine qusetions.

I got that.

Also individually calling for a new inquiry are two dozen retired U.S. military brass and eight former U.S. State Department officials, along with a number of Republicans who have served in high federal positions since President Reagan, including former Assistant Treasury Secretary Paul Craig Roberts and former Reagan administration Assistant Defense Secretary (and retired Marine Corps colonel) Ronald D. Ray.

Are there any licensed structural engineers among these folks?
 
I am calling bullshit... we all know it was due to the illuminati in conjunction with Bush and Cheney who planted tons of bombs on the site (which of course were cloaked in invisibility so no one else could see them) who in turn detonated said bombs.

Or I could just say.... LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS!!!

Or you could point to shavings of car engines, bicycles, and soda cans and call it nanothermite and proof of conspiracy.
 
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