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AP NewsBreak: Congress to look into Vikings case

By FREDERIC J. FROMMER (AP) – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON — The House Energy and Commerce Committee plans to conduct a hearing next month on the case of two professional football players whose suspensions were blocked by a federal appeals court.

Committee Chairman Henry Waxman, D-Calif., is concerned that the legal issues raised in the case "could result in weaker performance-enhancing drugs policies for professional sports," the committee said in a statement issued to The Associated Press Thursday.


The committee provided the statement after the AP reported the hearing, citing two people with knowledge of the committee plans. The two spoke on the condition of anonymity because the hearing had not yet been announced.

The NFL had attempted to suspend Minnesota Vikings Pat Williams and Kevin Williams four games each for violating the league's anti-doping policy.

But the players sued, arguing that the NFL's testing violated state workplace laws. A federal judge issued an injunction blocking the order, which was upheld last month by a three-judge panel of the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

The decision troubled the NFL and professional sports leagues, which expressed concern about players being subjected to different standards depending on their state. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said after the ruling that the NFL was considering its next step, which could include an appeal, a trial in state court, or taking the issue to Congress. Subsequently, the league was granted more time to file documents asking the court to reconsider the suspensions.

The league wants to suspend the Williamses, who are not related, for testing positive for a banned substance during training camp in 2008. They acknowledge taking the over-the-counter weight loss supplement StarCaps, which did not state on the label that it contained the diuretic bumetanide. The diuretic is banned by the NFL because it can mask the presence of steroids; the players are not accused of taking steroids.

The court ruling led to the NFL's decision to allow New Orleans defensive ends Charles Grant and Will Smith, who had also been issued four-game suspensions, to continue playing. Both Saints players tested positive after using StarCaps.

The league argued it should be allowed to enforce its drug policy because it was a product of the NFL's collective bargaining agreement with the players union. The agreement is governed by federal labor law, which they argued pre-empted state law.

The state law in Minnesota mandates that an employer give an employee who tests positive for drug use the right to explain the positive test.

Neither the NFL nor the union had any immediate comment on the hearing.

Waxman long has had an interest in performance-enhancing drugs in professional sports. As ranking Democrat and then chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, he was involved in hearings on steroid use in Major League Baseball.

Over in the Senate, Pennsylvania Democrat Arlen Specter, who held a hearing last week on steroids in dietary supplements, recently told the AP he was looking into possible legislation so that federal law would govern in cases like the Vikings one.

"The NFL has a rule, and professional football teams play in many, many states," he said. "I don't think there ought to be a deviation as to how you how you treat players depending on whether they're in Minnesota or Pennsylvania."

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Lets see, with all the problems facing the us, this is what those asswipes are worried about.
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Why even suspend them in the first place? How are steroids a 'unfair advantage'?

Are you kidding? Steroids are a competitive advantage.

I am not in favor of government involvement here. They should stay out of it, but that includes the state laws interfering with agreements between the player's union and the league.

League regulation is definitely in the best interest of the owners, players and the league. Fans want a competitive game and the NFL's commitment to that has brought them huge rewards. Further, I imagine, most players don't want to feel they need to take a dangerous drug to compete.

The state law is not in the best interest of the employees/players.
 
I disagree when it comes to roids. They're no more an advantage than a superior training regiment or a better coach, or better equipment. They're common enough so that anyone who wants them can get them, and cheaply at that. But that's the end of my rant there, I agree 100% about league resolution.
 
Sorry, I kind of just made an assertion in response to your question, though it is kind of obvious.

Steroids offer an advantage in allowing a person to add mass beyond their natural capacity and significantly increase their ability to add lean mass through weight lifting. It also greatly enhance the ability to recover.

But I am guessing you knew that already.
 
Sorry, I kind of just made an assertion in response to your question, though it is kind of obvious.

Steroids offer an advantage in allowing a person to add mass beyond their natural capacity and significantly increase their ability to add lean mass through weight lifting. It also greatly enhance the ability to recover.

But I am guessing you knew that already.

I am fully aware, but again, it is accessible to anyone, so the advantage is merely one of choice.
 
I disagree when it comes to roids. They're no more an advantage than a superior training regiment or a better coach, or better equipment. They're common enough so that anyone who wants them can get them, and cheaply at that. But that's the end of my rant there, I agree 100% about league resolution.

Sorry, no, you can not the add the same mass with just a good training regiment, better coach (which only really helps if you lack commitment) or better equipment (I don't even know what that would be... weights are weights and you don't need any equipment for the cardio).

I use to workout like a freaking madman. I have a bit of a bulky frame to begin with. But I did not add mass like the freaks that are on steroids. Eventually, you hit a plateau and start to actually break down muscle with more workout. But with steroids, you break past that.

Anyone that is willing to engage in an illegal activity (not that I believe it should be illegal) and are willing to sacrifice their overall health have the same advantage, sure. Somehow, I still think the league and player's union are wise to ban it.
 
I am fully aware, but again, it is accessible to anyone, so the advantage is merely one of choice.

I'll just repeat...

Anyone that is willing to engage in an illegal activity (not that I believe it should be illegal) and are willing to sacrifice their overall health have the same advantage, sure. Somehow, I still think the league and player's union are wise to ban it.
 
I'll just repeat...

Anyone that is willing to engage in an illegal activity (not that I believe it should be illegal) and are willing to sacrifice their overall health have the same advantage, sure. Somehow, I still think the league and player's union are wise to ban it.

It seems our timing on posts has lead to some repeats, my apologies.
 
Also, the better equipment, coaching staff and even therefore the training regiment are all organizational advantages. No different than just having a better coaching staff or an owner/employer that gives you the warm fuzzy that makes you want to work hard for him. Nothing wrong with those advantages as they are and should be part of the game.
 
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