CIGNA's Denial of Healthcare?!

[signalmankenneth]

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/what-incentive-do-insurers-have-cover

Still don't want a Public Option???

 

[Cancel10]

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/what-incentive-do-insurers-have-cover

Still don't want a Public Option???

No, because even if a "public option" would have covered it, she would have been forced to wait for at least six months for the procedure. By then, she would have been dead. And you're basing this on the assumption that socialized medicine would have covered it - a shaky assumption at best. In the UK, they deny procedures all the time. Same shit.

The best approach is to repeal regulations which make it difficult for insurance companies to be competitive. Also, medicare needs to be restructured and put on the path to privatization. Medicare by itself has at least doubled the cost of healthcare since it was enacted in 1965. When a doctor is forced to accept 5 cents on the dollar for his services, who do you think picks up the tab?

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

No, because even if a "public option" would have covered it, she would have been forced to wait for at least six months for the procedure.

The public option doesn't employ waiting lists. The readiness with which you are ready to ascribe an exact time value (six months) to the imaginary waiting lists you've associated with this bill is a tad bit over the top.

Are there six month waiting lists for medicare? I'd argue that the effective waiting times for medicare are shorter than for capitalist care.

By then, she would have been dead.

In the UK, only elective procedures are put under significant waiting lists. Some important procedures do have waiting lists, though, not because of too much demand, but because of a lack of radiologists and other such specialists (which is probably because of the fact that doctors aren't paid nearly as much in the UK, but since the public option operates either like a normal insurer or like medicare and doesn't change doctor pay rates the point is moot).

And you're basing this on the assumption that socialized medicine would have covered it - a shaky assumption at best. In the UK, they deny procedures all the time. Same shit.

LOL. Maybe elective procedures of no medical value, but those can always be bought.

The best approach is to repeal regulations which make it difficult for insurance companies to be competitive.

Yep, if something doesn't work, just do more of it and you'll be fine. Conservatism 101.

Also, medicare needs to be restructured and put on the path to privatization. Medicare by itself has at least doubled the cost of healthcare since it was enacted in 1965.

Bullshit. Medicare has been the only part of the system that's kept reasonable prices. Capitalism has failed the healthcare market.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

In the UK, only elective procedures are put under significant waiting lists. Some important procedures do have waiting lists, though, not because of too much demand, but because of a lack of radiologists and other such specialists (which is probably because of the fact that doctors aren't paid nearly as much in the UK, but since the public option operates either like a normal insurer or like medicare and doesn't change doctor pay rates the point is moot).

from time to time you need to stop and think about what you post....I suggest you take a moment to reflect on the above and then realize what you just said and why, therefore, we should not have a public option......


to make it easier for you, in essence you've said we need a "public option" that works just like what we already have because places that have the "public option" don't work as well as what we have.....

 

[tinfoil]

from time to time you need to stop and think about what you post....I suggest you take a moment to reflect on the above and then realize what you just said and why, therefore, we should not have a public option......


to make it easier for you, in essence you've said we need a "public option" that works just like what we already have because places that have the "public option" don't work as well as what we have.....

LOL the dumbass just described how lower pay for doctors creates a shortage of professionals in the medical field. Then he says it doesn't matter. LOL

 

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for watertard
http://www.rangelmd.com/index.php/2009/10/08/the-man-with-the-broken-arm-and-the-nhs/