Netherlands closing prisons

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Netherlands closing prisons for ‘lack of criminals’


Sometimes the severity you sense depends on what you think the problem is.
Take the Netherlands for example. They are closing prisons.
You'll never guess why.
They don't have enough criminals to fill them.
At least that's the story of Justice State Secretary Nebahat Albayrak.
"Currently, there is detention capacity of some 14,000 cell places, while according to the estimates there is a need for about 12,000 cells. This overcapacity is expected to continue for some years," she said while almost certainly clogging about in wooden shoes. "The cell surplus is caused by falling crime in general and more serious crime in particular."
Thus, the ruling parties have developed a plan to remove 2,000 of the country's 14,000 prison cells. That's a plan that the more conservative minded Dutch legislators call crazy. They even say that violent crime is increasing in the land where the legend of Santa Claus was born.
That depends on what you call crime.
The Dutch don't criminalize euthanasia, many illicit drugs, or even prostitution.
They are known for their windmills, gouda cheese, tulips and tolerance.
If nothing is illegal, then you'll obviously have fewer prisoners. Not only do they have a liberal mind when it comes to crime, they also take a soft view on punishment.
Many people who are convicted of crimes spend no time in jails - helping to keep the cells empty.
They slap an ankle band on them and assign them to community service.
The argument has detractors on both ends of the political spectrum which leads me to believe they might be doing the right thing.
The far right believe they are weak on crime. The far left don't want to close the prisons because people could lose their government jobs.
Don't let the Dutch convince you that all of Europe is leaning toward leniency. Belgium is already making plans to send 500 of their prisoners to help fill those vacant cells.
It's an interesting argument. Are Dutch people becoming more civil or is their society becoming more tolerant of incivility?
 
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Maybe we should send some of our choice prisoners to the Netherlands and see if they still think the same way in a few years.
 
Netherlands closing prisons for ‘lack of criminals’


Sometimes the severity you sense depends on what you think the problem is.
Take the Netherlands for example. They are closing prisons.
You'll never guess why.
They don't have enough criminals to fill them.
At least that's the story of Justice State Secretary Nebahat Albayrak.
"Currently, there is detention capacity of some 14,000 cell places, while according to the estimates there is a need for about 12,000 cells. This overcapacity is expected to continue for some years," she said while almost certainly clogging about in wooden shoes. "The cell surplus is caused by falling crime in general and more serious crime in particular."
Thus, the ruling parties have developed a plan to remove 2,000 of the country's 14,000 prison cells. That's a plan that the more conservative minded Dutch legislators call crazy. They even say that violent crime is increasing in the land where the legend of Santa Claus was born.
That depends on what you call crime.
The Dutch don't criminalize euthanasia, many illicit drugs, or even prostitution.
They are known for their windmills, gouda cheese, tulips and tolerance.
If nothing is illegal, then you'll obviously have fewer prisoners. Not only do they have a liberal mind when it comes to crime, they also take a soft view on punishment.
Many people who are convicted of crimes spend no time in jails - helping to keep the cells empty.
They slap an ankle band on them and assign them to community service.
The argument has detractors on both ends of the political spectrum which leads me to believe they might be doing the right thing.
The far right believe they are weak on crime. The far left don't want to close the prisons because people could lose their government jobs.
Don't let the Dutch convince you that all of Europe is leaning toward leniency. Belgium is already making plans to send 500 of their prisoners to help fill those vacant cells.
It's an interesting argument. Are Dutch people becoming more civil or is their society becoming more tolerant of incivility?

Every time I see your name I think I'll post this. So this time I have done more than think ... (an unusual pastime for me)

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Now you may return to the topic.
 
Its pretty sad when a guy has two monikers and replies to himself in one thread; an example of what drugs can do to the brain.
 
Only a Rush nut sucking moron would think that, Obama has stop the Nazi raids on legal clubs in Cali. :pke:

he still had the guy sent to prison....and he has not stopped any other raids and backed off his promise on weed....we've already talked about this

additionally, marijuana is still illegal....maybe if you stopped fantasizing about people sucking on rush's nuts you would get a clearer picture....and not make an ass out of yourself

By Larry Gordon*March 29, 2009
Federal agents seized about 640 pounds of marijuana Saturday afternoon on a private shipping boat four nautical miles west of San Diego's Mission Bay, officials said. Two U.S. citizens onboard, both men in their 20s, were arrested on suspicion of smuggling, but their identities were not immediately released.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/29/local/me-smugglingside29

DEA Raids Emmalyn's California Cannabis Clinic in San Francisco
In spite of certain assurances by the Obama Administration, beginning at around 3:30 PM this afternoon the DEA has proceeded to raid Emmalyn's California Cannabis Clinic in San Francisco California. The DEA is claiming Emmalyn's has violated both state and federal law, but remain hushed about the specific allegations. we have pictures and video.

http://www.sanfranciscocannabisclub...raids-emmalyns-california-cannabis-clinic.htm

Mar 26, 2009 12:35 am US/Pacific Drug Agents Raid SF Medical Marijuana Clinic
 
spurt your a retard

what? you said obama stopped the raids, i show you that on march of this year the feds raided a legal club in california and i'm the retard....i further show you that the feds are still sending people to prison for pot....so your claim about obama stopping the raids on legal clubs in california is proven false and i'm the retard.....

SF is right....you can't debate, you're nothing but a cheap one pony insulting trick....

moron
 
Please check sites like NORML, MPP etc. The MJ legalization movement while not thrilled with Obama are thrilled with major progress over Bush.
If you read the Cali law a lot of dispenseries are selling way more than is legal.
 
Please check sites like NORML, MPP etc. The MJ legalization movement while not thrilled with Obama are thrilled with major progress over Bush.
If you read the Cali law a lot of dispenseries are selling way more than is legal.

you made a false claim and don't have the honesty to admit it....yet write posts about "waiting?????".....

hack

and there was another raid in LA just a couple of months ago
 
you made a false claim and don't have the honesty to admit it....yet write posts about "waiting?????".....

hack

and there was another raid in LA just a couple of months ago

spurt how old are you?
Your going to sit here and tell me the MJ world doesn't think things are way better than Under Bush!!! Realy LOFL
 
spurt how old are you?
Your going to sit here and tell me the MJ world doesn't think things are way better than Under Bush!!! Realy LOFL

you're a liar....i've never said the MJ doesn't think its better under obama....

i merely point out your earlier false claim which you have yet to admit you were wrong on, yet you pounce on me to admit i'm on wrong...hypocrite

and from what i have seen....it doesn't appear that much better under obama....there have been nearly a half dozen raids since he took office...how is that better? you probably are like the other obamabots who love obama's nobel prize for things NOT yet accomplished....
 
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