Who believes that we are headed for an armed revolt in this country?

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Are we headed for an armed revolt?

  • Yes, we are headed for an armed revolt.

    Votes: 5 18.5%

  • No, I think the armed revolt is just talk.

    Votes: 12 44.4%

  • Maybe a few dozen militia will be shot down trying to start one.

    Votes: 8 29.6%

  • Kill them all!!!

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • Total voters
    27
Southern Man said:
In other words, you can't dispute it.
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"The military is very conservatively based #1 and #2 many members of the military would actively join said revolts. Plus the whole 'Defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic' is meant to hold the GOVERNMENT as the domestic enemy."

You want us to dispute that the military is mostly onservatives? Or that they would join the revolt?

And your insistence that the military would see the government as an enemy has yet to be shown.

I also explained the reason that the military would probably not be involved in the revolt.
 
WinterBorn said:
"The military is very conservatively based #1 and #2 many members of the military would actively join said revolts. Plus the whole 'Defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic' is meant to hold the GOVERNMENT as the domestic enemy."

You want us to dispute that the military is mostly onservatives? Or that they would join the revolt?

And your insistence that the military would see the government as an enemy has yet to be shown.

I also explained the reason that the military would probably not be involved in the revolt.
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DonQuixote said:
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I hate to see you go.

But send me a private message with a link to where you are headed. I might try it too.
 
CaptBillyTheKid said:
Well we both agree that such a war would be a guerrilla war and take place mostly in a urban area correct? In such case air power, naval power, large numbers of troops, mechanized units, Etc. would be near useless. Not to mention it would be very difficult to distinguish friend from foe for the military and unnecessary civilian casualties would greatly undermine pacification efforts. Collateral damage is the greatest threat and hence the military current urban warfare strategy is ineffective in such a case. Of course this also assumes a coordinated effort on the rebels part. THAT is the key to the whole thing. Could people organize themselves and fight on a coordinated front? I believe it could happen, thought not at the moment. People are angry and dedicated in enough numbers yet.
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I've seen the military move tanks, heavy weapons, and large numbers of troops effortlessly through large urban environments.

AND my brother, I do not agree that they would be fighting in urban environments.

Those who would take up armed revolution do not live in major cities and are made up in large part by people who are racist and have no commonality with those who do live in the cities.

If militias showed up in urban environments they would be fighting the residents as well as the police and military.

This would be a minor conflict fought outside of urban environments and the usurpers would be on their own.
 
WinterBorn said:
Now if you could muster the resistance or revolt from inside the military, I would think you might have a chance. But not only would it have to be well organized, your security would have to be super tight as well.
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there are already internal factions within the branches that have joined the oath keepers.
 
CaptBillyTheKid said:
Well we both agree that such a war would be a guerrilla war and take place mostly in a urban area correct? In such case air power, naval power, large numbers of troops, mechanized units, Etc. would be near useless. Not to mention it would be very difficult to distinguish friend from foe for the military and unnecessary civilian casualties would greatly undermine pacification efforts. Collateral damage is the greatest threat and hence the military current urban warfare strategy is ineffective in such a case. Of course this also assumes a coordinated effort on the rebels part. THAT is the key to the whole thing. Could people organize themselves and fight on a coordinated front? I believe it could happen, thought not at the moment. People are angry and dedicated in enough numbers yet.
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Right-wing forces would have the least support in urban areas. They could hold such areas by force against the will of the people but the whole operation would fall apart without organized terror to force them into submission.
 
Watermark said:
In every age there is an obsessive movement with some utopic view of society that thinks it has some sort of right to govern society, democracy be damned. In the early 20th century it was the socialist anarchists/communists; today it's the libertarian anarchists. I don't think these new ones are going to get much farther than their predecessors.
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I think you have drawn the proper analogy. The Teabagistanis, like the Kurds, have no country and likely never will.
 
starfish314 said:
I think you have drawn the proper analogy. The Teabagistanis, like the Kurds, have no country and likely never will.
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I think you are mistaken. They had one for 8 years. You have had one for 10 months. Wait a bit before you sound so condescending.
 
blackascoal said:
I've seen the military move tanks, heavy weapons, and large numbers of troops effortlessly through large urban environments.
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You must be watching a very different military then I served in. Yes I've been a part of those movements, but rarely are they effortless and always have not been combat related. Could they use such things in a urban area? Possibly but not with the ease that you claim and again the risk of collateral damage would be great.

AND my brother, I do not agree that they would be fighting in urban environments.

Those who would take up armed revolution do not live in major cities and are made up in large part by people who are racist and have no commonality with those who do live in the cities.

If militias showed up in urban environments they would be fighting the residents as well as the police and military.

This would be a minor conflict fought outside of urban environments and the usurpers would be on their own.
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Ok, perhaps I'm not explaining myself well. My own fault. When I talk about this revolution I'm talking about one that stands reasonable chance of success, and thus would require a certain amount of support from people in every area. I do however disagree with your assertion that many who would support said revolt are racist in nature, or that racists are primarily found outside of the city.
 
CaptBillyTheKid said:
You must be watching a very different military then I served in. Yes I've been a part of those movements, but rarely are they effortless and always have not been combat related. Could they use such things in a urban area? Possibly but not with the ease that you claim and again the risk of collateral damage would be great.



Ok, perhaps I'm not explaining myself well. My own fault. When I talk about this revolution I'm talking about one that stands reasonable chance of success, and thus would require a certain amount of support from people in every area. I do however disagree with your assertion that many who would support said revolt are racist in nature, or that racists are primarily found outside of the city.
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Blackie seems to forget the huge number of guns owned by conservatives. There is likely to be one pointed out of every other window in some areas.
 
CaptBillyTheKid said:
The lowest estimates for gun owners is 70,000,000 so even a small percentage is a formidable number.
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The Founders knew what kind of devastation that could bring to a government that stopped serving all the people and started serving itself, or in this case one party or one ideology. We may be the most violent nation on earth but freedom ain't free. I'd rather live free and die young than die an old commie. :good4u:
 
Southern Man said:
The Founders knew what kind of devastation that could bring to a government that stopped serving all the people and started serving itself, or in this case one party or one ideology. We may be the most violent nation on earth but freedom ain't free. I'd rather live free and die young than die an old commie. :good4u:
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Better dead than red.
 
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