Watching Nikki Haley’s speech, she’s good!

Jarod said:
Wrong
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Right

How do you Hillary didn't really beat Trump? It was much closer...
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Hildasbeast 79,646 votes cast in three states Trump lost by around 44K in three states.

The tight races in the trio of states had a big electoral impact. As NPR's Domenico Montanaro has put it, "just 44,000 votes in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin separated Biden and Trump from a tie in the Electoral College."
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https://www.npr.org/2020/12/02/9406...se-key-states-powered-biden-to-the-presidency
 
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Jarod said:
I like a lot of what she’s saying, “Big business is getting to many tax giveaways!”

Other than she keeps claiming things are socialism that aren’t, she’s ok in my book on policy.

I hate that she showed a compromised morality by kissing up to the turd. She lacks the moral courage needed in a president.
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Her big mistake is to make it about sex and Race
 
ExpressLane said:
Yeah the whole airport scene was very orderly. People falling off military jets. Suicide bombers . Handing babies over the fence. Abandoning billions in weapons. :facepalm:
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As was predicted, Afghanistan is rapidly turning into a haven for Islamist crazies again. Meanwhile are again being treated like chattels and denied education.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Nikki Hokey is a mix bag of sentiment. Not all good- not all bad.

Her audit-trail is a tad all too Flip-floppish for most people to understand where her true commitments are.

So, until she is challenged to answer where she stands now on any given issue, she is going to have some serious doubts out there with the voter's trust and expectations.

Can she even commit to anything? And can anyone trust her, even if she does?

Donald Trump proved that Blind Trust is a very foolish thing to just give away!
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Here is something from left wing Politico

https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...haley-2024-bio-what-you-need-to-know-00082742
 
ExpressLane said:
Yeah the whole airport scene was very orderly. People falling off military jets. Suicide bombers . Handing babies over the fence. Abandoning billions in weapons. :facepalm:
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You familiar with world history?

That's what ending a war often looks like. And guess what? That's why you only start wars as a LAST RESORT.

Do you think Bush started both Afghanistan & Iraq - which I'm sure you enthusiastically supported - as a last resort?

As for the equipment - it's hypocritical to cite the lives lost, and then say we should have retrieved it. Because retrieving it would have likely cost MANY more lives.
 
Jarod said:
And still Trump lost more Americans under his watch.
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There were fewer Americans for Biden to lose because Trump had withdrawn the majority of them. Without getting them killed BTW. In the last 15 months of the Trump administration Trump lost 13 soldiers . In the first 7 months of the Biden Administration Biden lost 13 soldiers.
 
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Jarod said:
I like a lot of what she’s saying, “Big business is getting to many tax giveaways!”

Other than she keeps claiming things are socialism that aren’t, she’s ok in my book on policy.

I hate that she showed a compromised morality by kissing up to the turd. She lacks the moral courage needed in a president.
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I despise much of her foreign policy. But she'd be a far sight better than the current senile resident and the orange turd that wants to run against him again after losing so horribly.
 
BartenderElite said:
You familiar with world history?

That's what ending a war often looks like. And guess what? That's why you only start wars as a LAST RESORT.

Do you think Bush started both Afghanistan & Iraq - which I'm sure you enthusiastically supported - as a last resort?

As for the equipment - it's hypocritical to cite the lives lost, and then say we should have retrieved it. Because retrieving it would have likely cost MANY more lives.
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I'm pretty sure the Afghan war was started by their side.
 
ExpressLane said:
Bagram was a very secure place and was easily defensible and gave use a great place you monitor China and Russia from.
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Okay, military strategist. The Pentagon guys who I saw actually said that it would have taken an additional 5,000 troops at minimum to secure Bagram, and we would have likely incurred more casualties.

Armchair QB'ing at its finest.
 
ExpressLane said:
So you think we should have allowed Al Queda to attack us and do nothing. Is that what you tell yourself?
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You likely supported the Iraq War, as well - and I'm guessing enthusiastically. And I'm also going to guess that you defended losing THOUSANDS of Americans in that unnecessary war as just 'well, that's part of war.' And then we incur minimal casualties in a withdrawal from an incredibly unstable country, and it's "chaotic" and unacceptable - because a Dem is President instead.
 
BartenderElite said:
You likely supported the Iraq War, as well - and I'm guessing enthusiastically. And I'm also going to guess that you defended losing THOUSANDS of Americans in that unnecessary war as just 'well, that's part of war.' And then we incur minimal casualties in a withdrawal from an incredibly unstable country, and it's "chaotic" and unacceptable - because a Dem is President instead.
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I'm pretty sure we are talking about Biden and Trump. Now you are moving the goal posts. :laugh:


 
Jarod said:
I like a lot of what she’s saying, “Big business is getting to many tax giveaways!”

Other than she keeps claiming things are socialism that aren’t, she’s ok in my book on policy.

I hate that she showed a compromised morality by kissing up to the turd. She lacks the moral courage needed in a president.
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Would you rather DeSantis be the nominee?…and probable President based upon the odds every free-for-all election this century?

The downside of a two-party system is that the election choice is based upon the nominee from each party. Biden may not even live out this term much less a second one. Even the Democrats don’t want him to run. If it’s Biden and any Republican not Trump, who do you think would win?
 
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