Big Labor Is Bankrupting Our Country

cawacko said:
How would you propose getting workers in the high tech industry for example to want to embrace unions?
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Time and propaganda.

Also maybe unions that aren't so old-fashioned, don't have as much bureaucracy, and don't waste money on political campaigns that may be offensive to their workers.
 
Watermark said:
Time and propaganda.

Also maybe unions that aren't so old-fashioned, don't have as much bureaucracy, and don't waste money on political campaigns that may be offensive to their workers.
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The Silicon Valley, along with other high-tech corridors, is a bastion of fast paced entrepreneurialism where stock options still hold much weight to workers. If unions are all about equality of workers pay (or based on tenure) how will they propose dealing with stock options on an across the board basis? If you are in a sales position and much of your earnings are commission based or small salary and bonus how do unions handle that?
 
cawacko said:
The Silicon Valley, along with other high-tech corridors, is a bastion of fast paced entrepreneurialism where stock options still hold much weight to workers. If unions are all about equality of workers pay (or based on tenure) how will they propose dealing with stock options on an across the board basis? If you are in a sales position and much of your earnings are commission based or small salary and bonus how do unions handle that?
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Maybe they shouldn't be about absolute equality in pay?

But people that high-up are generally being competed FOR anyway and don't really need unions.
 
Watermark said:
Equally as powerful?

Coporation control far more of the economy, and there name has become poison among the working public due to right-wing propaganda.
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this is about controlling the government, not the economy

further, unions do control or at least affect the economy, for if they work for corporations, most do, then that necessarily means they are part of the corporations control on the economy vis a vis their wages, benefits etc....you can't deny the impact that many union negotiated pacts have caused on even the largest corporations....
 
evince said:
Man am I tired of these insane, hatefilled idiots who cheered while Bush made this mess and now all of the sudden expect anyone to believe any word of "warning" they have about the future.


You guys were wrong about everything so dont cry too hard when you spew this crap and no one takes you seriously.
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:facepalm:
 
Mott the Hoople said:
It's people like Meme that make me shake my head in exasperation that I was once a Republican.

Look, I have no love loss for unions. Part of their present predicament is their own damned fault. Many unions over reached their grasp and many of them became corrupt.

But the overwhelming majority of middle class Americans owe their high standard of living to the legacy of labor unions. So when I see stuff like what Meme posted I can only think "Gee she's a real dumb moron."

Let's keep in mind that despite the obvious shortcommings of unions they have made substantial contributions to this nation. I can remember my Grandfather, a rail road conudtor, telling me stories about the bad ole pre-union days when the RR executives considered it more cost affective to replace a human being who had been killed or seriously injured then to introduce or replace needed safety equipment (like air brakes). Unions put an end to that shit.

What really bothers me is that I'm reasonably sure that Meme is to stupid to see the hypocricy of her views. It seems to me that the far right only think that everyone has a right to negotiate the price for their goods or services, except for laborors. What a collosal double standard.
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No one's arguing that historically unions did some good. The issue here is the current corruption of them, especially SEIU, and that they have your messiah in their back pocket.
 
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