SmarterthanYou
rebel
yeah, and ONLY by congress, not the executive branch, however, THAT is specifically mentioned. that one single specific mention does not give carte blanche to expand federal powers during wartime. or do you disagree?
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yeah, and ONLY by congress, not the executive branch, however, THAT is specifically mentioned. that one single specific mention does not give carte blanche to expand federal powers during wartime. or do you disagree?
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
The Patriot Act was passed by Congress, and it ain't carte blanche.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
it isn't constitutional either.and there's a huge difference between the patriot act and Article I, Section 9, clause 2. One, we the people wrote. The other, congress handed over power illegally.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
SmarterthanYou
rebel
I can see you're getting desperate now.
not hardly. Both Soc and I have shown you that your knowledge of the law and the constitution is severly lacking.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Not so much. I just withheld Section 9 clause 2 to allow y'all to hang yourselves.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
yes, so much. you didn't prove anything other than we were right. Times of war does not give the government power to violate the 4th Amendment. Habeus corpus has nothing to do with the 4th Amendment.
in other words, you fail.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Semantics. Being held indefinitely without trial is a far greater violation that listening in on his conversation with terrorists.
This is simple plain-language interpretation.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
No, THIS argument is semantics. you want to argue levels of violations because one has an actual adverse effect while one may go completely undetected. ANY violation is serious, not just the ones that have actual physical harm.
which we showed you your errors in.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
LOL. Nice try.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
Soc and I won, dude. your constitutional law is either lacking or you intentionally skew your views towards totalitarianism. Either way, you failed.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Claiming false victory is something I'd expect of Libby, not you.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
Claiming false victory is something I'd expect of Libby, not you.
nothing false about it, friend.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
False as a three dollar bill, buddy.
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what does the patriot act have to do with habeas corpus?
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DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Nothing. STY is corn-fused.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
uh, no. you were the one that brought habeus corpus in to a 4th amendment battle, remember?
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Yeah and you got corn-fused, remember?uh, no. you were the one that brought habeus corpus in to a 4th amendment battle, remember?
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WinterBorn
Guest
WTF? I was just reading som eof the threads I have missed, and ran into this one.
I cannot believe you even managed to type this. Unless there is a conviction your rights weren't violated?
lmao