Damo and Water need Schooling Again on 1/3

I would have just gone with 33 1/3%.... but to each their own

The pure decimal notation 33.333e% is awkward but it's not invalid. But when you're using a calculator they don't have a button that denotes an infinite repeating decimal, so yes, you would use 33 + 1/3. If you're doing math by hand you can simply assume that it goes on forever and know that 33.333e% multiplied by 3 is 100% rather than 99.999% whatever.

Notice that I used 99.999 there and not 99.999e%. I don't want to create confusion, but 99.999e% in the hyperreal number line is equivalent to 100%.

In the real number line, of course, 99.999e% is meaningless and you'd have to literally write out every number, which creates a lot of mathematical headaches and means that things like 1/3 can't be properly represented in decimals. I do believe that this is the source of dixie's confusion - he refuses to recognize the validity of hyperreals.
 
Well dear ditzie, that depends on how long you continue with your foolishness. EVERYONE here is in agreement against your idiocy. Not ONE single person is on your side in this. Yet in your fantasy world this means that everyone else is being stubborn and wrong. In never enters that tiny little mind of yours that it is YOU that is wrong.

And I don't give a fuck if Dumo brings another 500 pinheads here and THEY disagree with me and post another 5000 threads about it! I don't care if no one ever has the balls to stand up and say that 1 divided by 3 produces a remainder! It doesn't matter one iota to me! I know math doesn't lie!

Countless times you pretend that the only way to write a percentage is by using decimals. It is not.

1/3 + 1/3 +1/3 is EXACTLY EQUAL TO ONE. There are NO remainders. It is in your idiotic insistance to write 1/3 in decimal form that is screwing with your tiny little mind.

THAT is why everyone is laughing at you. THAT is why you continue to get mocked for this.

Again.... Mock until your little hearts are content, and keep trying to twist my argument into absurdities I've never stated. "1/3" is not a NUMBER! It is a FRACTIONAL REPRESENTATION OF VALUE! Three of them ONLY equal one because they have to equal one for us to ever be able to divide things and assume them to be equal in value. Our perception is, they ARE equal... I have been abundantly clear on that, I have not refuted that! But the fact remains, the three thirds can never be defined because we can't resolve the remainder, no one has calculated to eternity, it is not possible. The only way we can resolve it and rationalize equality, is to presume it, and that is what we do.

Laugh at that all you want to, it's the truth. I have challenged you all to present some evidence to contradict this, and you can't. You just keep trying to say that I am claiming we can't assume or presume equality in the thirds... we do it all the time, I admitted that... hundreds of times already... but you still aren't listening to me... you are still trying to say that I am saying something else.
 
And I don't give a fuck if Dumo brings another 500 pinheads here and THEY disagree with me and post another 5000 threads about it! I don't care if no one ever has the balls to stand up and say that 1 divided by 3 produces a remainder! It doesn't matter one iota to me! I know math doesn't lie!

LMAO... we all know math doesn't lie. The problem is... you do not comprehend math. Your math skills are below that of a first grader.

Again.... Mock until your little hearts are content, and keep trying to twist my argument into absurdities I've never stated. "1/3" is not a NUMBER! It is a FRACTIONAL REPRESENTATION OF VALUE! Three of them ONLY equal one because they have to equal one for us to ever be able to divide things and assume them to be equal in value. Our perception is, they ARE equal... I have been abundantly clear on that, I have not refuted that! But the fact remains, the three thirds can never be defined because we can't resolve the remainder, no one has calculated to eternity, it is not possible. The only way we can resolve it and rationalize equality, is to presume it, and that is what we do.

Wow... yes, you have been abundantly clear that you are an idiot. There is NO assumption or presumption that three of them equal one. They DO equal one moron. Add them together and you get 3/3... for the idiots on the board... 3/3 is exactly equal to ONE.


"the three thirds can never be defined because we can't resolve the remainder"

Seriously... stop... you are so far beyond embarassing yourself. You have now embarrassed every single member of your family and everyone that pretends to be your friend.


Laugh at that all you want to, it's the truth. I have challenged you all to present some evidence to contradict this, and you can't. You just keep trying to say that I am claiming we can't assume or presume equality into the thirds... we do it all the time, I admitted that... hundreds of times already... but you still aren't listening to me... you are still trying to say that I am saying something else.

Poor ditzie... as I and so many others have pointed out... we HAVE provided the evidence. Many Many Many times. You simply continue to pretend that no one has. You continue to prove that every time someone says '1/3' to mock you that they are 100% justified in doing so.
 
Define what you mean by "equal parts" ?

Do you mean equal parts of 4 inches each... sure, I have never disputed this!

We assume it is 33.333e% but "e" is not resolved, we assume it is, because the value of "e" is irrelevant to "inches" being used to define measurement in this case. In other words, the three parts are not exactly equal, but it doesn't matter, and it doesn't alter the integrity of the measurement. Our perception is equality, based on our defined unit of measure (inches) and this is how we often resolve the remainder. As I said, in more complicated calculations, like if we were sending a rocket to the moon and had to plot trajectories and stuff, we may need more precise measure than a ruler with ink markings every inch. In fact, we may need to utilize a complicated calculus formula to obtain a satisfactory resolve for the remainder, but we have figured out how to do that. It's never a problem, it's never an issue... except here, amongst the ignorance of pinheads who stubbornly wish to be obtuse and disagree with Dixie, because they have their asses on their shoulders and can't admit he is right about anything, even simple math!

Your problem is that you think nobody notices when you contradict yourself and then claim you've never contradicted yourself, ironiclly, another contradiction.

What a joke. Seriously, you're really that stupid. Fucking wow. Wow. Jesus. Holy shit.
 
LMAO... we all know math doesn't lie. The problem is... you do not comprehend math. Your math skills are below that of a first grader.

No, I comprehend math just fine, I learned in 3rd grade that 1 divided 3 times produces a remainder. I've not seen anyone who can dispute that yet. Sorry you think you have.

Wow... yes, you have been abundantly clear that you are an idiot. There is NO assumption or presumption that three of them equal one. They DO equal one moron. Add them together and you get 3/3... for the idiots on the board... 3/3 is exactly equal to ONE.

"3/3" is a fractional REPRESENTATION, not a value! That's the part you are getting stuck on! We presume equal thirds because we have to presume equal thirds, we can't resolve an infinite remainder. Now, if you have resolved the infinite remainder, please tell us the exact value I can multiply by 3 and get 1, because 3x3=9, forever and always.

"the three thirds can never be defined because we can't resolve the remainder"

Seriously... stop... you are so far beyond embarassing yourself. You have now embarrassed every single member of your family and everyone that pretends to be your friend.

And yet, I still don't care!! You people can make fun of me and mock me all you like, you can get mad and frustrated and pound on your keyboards, you can start another fucking dozen threads on it, you can follow me around the board posting "1/3!! 1/3!! 1/3!!" all day long... and I still will not give a damn! I'm not the least bit embarrassed by anything I've said, because what I've said is true, and always will be true, no matter how much you protest. So please, by all means, keep it up!

Poor ditzie... as I and so many others have pointed out... we HAVE provided the evidence. Many Many Many times. You simply continue to pretend that no one has. You continue to prove that every time someone says '1/3' to mock you that they are 100% justified in doing so.

No, you haven't provided any evidence, you have not proven me wrong, and you can't. Which is precisely why this bugs you so much! In spite of all the name calling and outright LYING about what I've stated, I am still here, still saying the same thing, and I am not backing down today, tomorrow, or EVER! I don't care if you want to dedicate the rest of your pathetic little lives to nothing other than telling me how wrong I am on this... if that is what you want to spend your time doing, more power to ya, it's not ever going to change my mind, and it will never make 1 equally divisible by 3.
 
No, I comprehend math just fine, I learned in 3rd grade that 1 divided 3 times produces a remainder. I've not seen anyone who can dispute that yet. Sorry you think you have.



"3/3" is a fractional REPRESENTATION, not a value! That's the part you are getting stuck on! We presume equal thirds because we have to presume equal thirds, we can't resolve an infinite remainder. Now, if you have resolved the infinite remainder, please tell us the exact value I can multiply by 3 and get 1, because 3x3=9, forever and always.



And yet, I still don't care!! You people can make fun of me and mock me all you like, you can get mad and frustrated and pound on your keyboards, you can start another fucking dozen threads on it, you can follow me around the board posting "1/3!! 1/3!! 1/3!!" all day long... and I still will not give a damn! I'm not the least bit embarrassed by anything I've said, because what I've said is true, and always will be true, no matter how much you protest. So please, by all means, keep it up!



No, you haven't provided any evidence, you have not proven me wrong, and you can't. Which is precisely why this bugs you so much! In spite of all the name calling and outright LYING about what I've stated, I am still here, still saying the same thing, and I am not backing down today, tomorrow, or EVER! I don't care if you want to dedicate the rest of your pathetic little lives to nothing other than telling me how wrong I am on this... if that is what you want to spend your time doing, more power to ya, it's not ever going to change my mind, and it will never make 1 equally divisible by 3.
Honestly Dixie, I think you are only wrong two thirds of the time, but one of those 2 has the remainder.
 
"3/3" is a fractional REPRESENTATION, not a value! That's the part you are getting stuck on! We presume equal thirds because we have to presume equal thirds, we can't resolve an infinite remainder. Now, if you have resolved the infinite remainder, please tell us the exact value I can multiply by 3 and get 1, because 3x3=9, forever and always.
You know what's funny about this? My TI-89 has two modes. If you select "exact" it spits everything out in the form of fractions if necessary. If you choose "approximate" it spits it out as decimals (rounded off if necessary).


3 * 1/3 is 1.

You have to use hyperreal numbers and conventions like "e" to represent 1/3 in decimals without fractions, so:

0.3333e * 3 is 1
 
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You know what's funny about this? My TI-89 has two modes. If you select "exact" it spits everything out in the form of fractions if necessary. If you choose "approximate" it spits it out as decimals (rounded off if necessary).


3 * 1/3 is 1.

You have to use hyperreal numbers and conventions like "e" to represent 1/3 in decimals without fractions, so:

0.3333e * 1/3 is 1
Don't you mean, 3 * .3333e = 1?
 
We assume it is 33.333e% but "e" is not resolved, we assume it is, because the value of "e" is irrelevant to "inches" being used to define measurement in this case. In other words, the three parts are not exactly equal, but it doesn't matter, and it doesn't alter the integrity of the measurement. Our perception is equality, based on our defined unit of measure (inches) and this is how we often resolve the remainder.!

No. They are exactly equal. The rest of the above is typical dixie made up word salad nonsense.
 
The value doesn't change with the system, the value is always constant. Percentage is not a value, it represents a portion of the whole. Percentage can apply regardless of what base math system you are going to use, it is universal.

It is not universal. It is a product of the decimal system. If we were using base 12 the percent (per one hundred) equivalent would be per one hundred and forty-four.

This tickles me... "it doesn't do well with 1/3" as if mathematics can "do well" or "do poorly" rather than being a never-changing constant and defined mechanism. Math either works or it doesn't work... If math doesn't work, there is no order to the universe, up can be down or left can be right, it depends on how we choose to define them at any given moment. We can't rely on math to solve any problem, because math may not "do well" today, if it is feeling poorly!

Stringster, you seem like a fairly smart fella, I don't know why you want to act retarded.

You are fucking stupid! Math is not the decimal system. Math has no problem at all with thirds. Decimal representation of thirds in non integer form is your road block.

Math ALWAYS works. Yet you are arguing that the simple problem of thirds creates some sort of breakdown.
 
And I don't give a fuck if Dumo brings another 500 pinheads here and THEY disagree with me and post another 5000 threads about it! I don't care if no one ever has the balls to stand up and say that 1 divided by 3 produces a remainder! It doesn't matter one iota to me!

The decimal system is math, math is not the decimal system.

I know math doesn't lie!

You are arguing that it does, dumbfuck.
 
Should we introduce students to different number systems sooner?

I think it gives you a deeper understanding of math and I would have liked to have had that earlier.

But then there are those like Dixie who might only be confused by it. I knew some kids for which simple algebra was too much. If you are waiting tables you don't really need algebra or different base systems.

For some minds information is invaluable. But with Dixie and other retards, we are casting pearls before the swine. They'll probably never get it.

My answer... Yes, at least, with the intelligent kids.
 
Should we introduce students to different number systems sooner?

I think it gives you a deeper understanding of math and I would have liked to have had that earlier.

But then there are those like Dixie who might only be confused by it. I knew some kids for which simple algebra was too much. If you are waiting tables you don't really need algebra or different base systems.

For some minds information is invaluable. But with Dixie and other retards, we are casting pearls before the swine. They'll probably never get it.

My answer... Yes, at least, with the intelligent kids.

They tried that with new math. Didn't turn out too well.
 
This tickles me... "it doesn't do well with 1/3" as if mathematics can "do well" or "do poorly" rather than being a never-changing constant and defined mechanism. Math either works or it doesn't work... If math doesn't work, there is no order to the universe, up can be down or left can be right, it depends on how we choose to define them at any given moment. We can't rely on math to solve any problem, because math may not "do well" today, if it is feeling poorly!

Stringster, you seem like a fairly smart fella, I don't know why you want to act retarded.


This is amazing.

By "work well" we do not mean mathematics itself. But there are plenty of ways to deal with problems in mathematics that do not work well with certain problems. I'm not going to attempt to use the chain rule to do a simple derivative that doesn't involve a power. Similarly, I'm not going to use decimal notation which requires clunky hyperreal notation to represent 1/3 when I could just use the fraction 1/3 or another base system. The decimal system DOES NOT work well with certain fractions.
 
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