Afghanistan and false democracy.

I will just leave this to the folks who know more than me...and who don't castigate someone for making what appears to be a very tough decision.

As to Topper's question about me (or family memeber) "over there." Right now the count is at 17 and rising of the number of family members who have served in Iraq or Afghanistan....8 of them nephews and nieces. My kid is in 1st grade...when he gets old enough if it is still only up to me it will be his choice as to whether he wants to go into the military or not.
 
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Do you really think the Taliban is not corrupt?

do you really think congress is not corrupt.
Please view the link of thier net worths, most come in with a couple million (only elitist are admitted).
You can not get from a couple to two hundred million in a couple years without screwing the American people.
Both parties are equally guilty:readit:
 
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do you really think congress is not corrupt.
Please view the link of thier net worths, most come in with a couple million (only elitist are admitted).
You can not get from a couple to two hundred million in a couple years without screwing the American people.
Both parties are equally guilty:readit:
I will agree with this to an extent. I think many members of our congress are corrupt. I fall short of thinking every one of them is.
 
I will agree with this to an extent. I think many members of our congress are corrupt. I fall short of thinking every one of them is.

they don't all need to be corrupt to have a corrupt congress/gov

so where do we get off on needing a non corrupt Afghanistan gov.
 
But if we remain, you're fine with a corrupt regime?

it's no wonder your poor, you don't pay attention.

I am the most anti-war limosine liberal on the board. I'm against all wars that don't include some foreign army coming up the Mississipi.
 
Do you really think the Taliban is not corrupt?

Where there is power there is usually corruption. More power , more corruption. This current government is backed by the US, which means it has more power and is wayyyyy more corrupt.

The Taliban pale in comparison.

The main thing that has changed in Afghanistan is who is collecting the spoils(Profits of the war). With European and American elites at the top of the pyramid.
 
Where there is power there is usually corruption. More power , more corruption. This current government is backed by the US, which means it has more power and is wayyyyy more corrupt.

The Taliban pale in comparison.

The main thing that has changed in Afghanistan is who is collecting the spoils(Profits of the war). With European and American elites at the top of the pyramid.

looks like you me and azzhat are the only anti elitist here.
 
looks like you me and azzhat are the only anti elitist here.

Most people believe all the hype. Mass manipulation is very effective. They say if you repeat a lie enough times, the people will perceive it as the truth.

And I'd like to add that the more power means more corruption since power is usally defined by numbers which means there are more people with their hands in the coockie jar....
 
Most people believe all the hype. Mass manipulation is very effective. They say if you repeat a lie enough times, the people will perceive it as the truth.

And I'd like to add that the more power means more corruption since power is usally defined by numbers which means there are more people with their hands in the coockie jar....

I just recently came over
If you read congress's net worth listing when most come in at a mil or two. I'd like to know a good debate against that both sides are elitist and corrupt as fuck.
 
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