End of a Nothing Burger. John Durham investigation ends in a whimper!

[QP!]

Here is what the smart money can bet on as a sure thing. Meaning more Republiclown money is going to be lost.


This list below showing GOP and specifically Trump administration corruption, is only going to grow massively as a result of the Jack Smith, Georgia and NYS investigations and prosecutions. Trump is going to leave even the other substantial criminal OTHER GOP admin in the dust. Trump does the BIGGEST crime... only the biggest crime. he does crime bigly.

 

[QP!]

We should all play a game of predicting how many indictments and convictions Trumps Admin ends with? it is tough as more and more criminality is exposed each week, so you have to build that in. But i am going to guess that Trump admin and those who supported it end with about 200 indictments and 90 convictions, including Trump.

You?

 

[LurchAddams]

So Comey, McCabe, Strzok and Page all get fired and the IG and the Durham report BOTH blast the FBI for trying to influence the election and you are OK with it. You can't be bothered to read what the report actually says. Instead you just parrot the opinions of people on MSNBS and CNN (Communist Network News) that either were fired from the FBI for their part in the scandal or made a living by supporting a fake Russian dossier on TV. This time the FBI wanted a Democrat to win . Next time it could be a Republican that the FBI wants to install as President. We are hanging on the edge of a police state. You are a pathetic American if you are OK with the FBI trying to influence an election.

Comey was fired for refusing to back off on Flynn who, by the way, would still be in jail if trump didn't pardon him. The FBI announced two investigations into Hillary Clinton just prior to the 2016 election - showing they were in the tank for trump, not Clinton.

I'll let you continue with your low-minded rant. The fact is - the Durham report, like the thread title says was a nothingburger, resulting in zero people sent to prison and zero recommendations regarding how the FBI should proceed.

 

[LurchAddams]

Then explain how Trump is the only the DOJ has gone after for documents

https://justthenews.com/government/...een-involved-ex-presidents-missing-docs-trump

Because unlike Biden and Pence, trump refused to return the documents after over a year of the government begging for them back then trump lied about returning them.

 

[ExpressLane]

Comey was fired for refusing to back off on Flynn who, by the way, would still be in jail if trump didn't pardon him. The FBI announced two investigations into Hillary Clinton just prior to the 2016 election - showing they were in the tank for trump, not Clinton.

I'll let you continue with your low-minded rant. The fact is - the Durham report, like the thread title says was a nothingburger, resulting in zero people sent to prison and zero recommendations regarding how the FBI should proceed.

Comey was fired for his partisan corruption of the FBI. Regardless of his firing. The Inspector General excoriated Comey and let's not forget Comey lied to get multiple FISA warrants on Carter Page that was guilty of nothing other than supporting Trump.

Clinton did commit crimes which Comey stepped beyond his legal authority to not charge her. HIS JOB was to investigate and present the facts to the DOJ and they were the ones with the legal authority to charge or not. He very clearly put his thumb on the scale and overstepped his authority. But since Lynch and Bill were caught secretly meeting and she had to recuse herself at which time the assistant AG should have made the decision NOT COMEY. The reason the investigation happened AT ALL is because agents in New York accidentally found her emails on Andrew Weenie's laptop. and were threatening to leak the fact that they had them before the election. Comey could no longer hide the fact that the FBI had them. So Comey did a hurried investigation an declared her not prosecute-able (a lie BTW). Also because of the sheer volume of emails the FBI never did a complete examination of all of the emails that they found in the short time they were officially investigated.

 

[ExpressLane]

Because unlike Biden and Pence, trump refused to return the documents after over a year of the government begging for them back then trump lied about returning them.

The government did not have the right to all of the documents. Trump was negotiating in good faith exactly like other Presidents have done.

Biden without question had ZERO right to secret documents that he stole from a SCIF while he was a Senator. Hunter also had a email that sounds like an intelligence report typically given to a President and had information that he had no business having. We need to see what secret document Hunter had access to an if this email was lifted from confidential documents.

 

[ExpressLane]

Mueller, thru the Manafort seizures alone was running at a break even on his investigation costs for his couple years of investigating. Durham spent 4 years and recouped NOTHING. All lost money.

Mueller's investigation actually found and indicted and put in jail all sorts of witches found within his mandate and that ignores all the cases of criminality he pushed to outside agencies to prosecute making the Mueller investigation a resounding success of competence. It was not specifically about Trump, and was about the 'Trump Campaign' so you pointing at Trump not getting charged does not change the success and need for the Mueller investigation.

The Durham investigation, in contrast was a bust, with Durham's end conclusion being for 'No wholesale changes are recommended' for the FBI as a result of his investigation. He follows in the steps of Trumps IG who did the same investigation of the investigators 4 years prior and also found no wrong doing. We look forward to the next 7 or so GOP lead investigations of this same topic which like the 10 or so ones on 'BENGHAZI' will all find a nothing burger.

Manafort was a tax cheat just like Hunter Biden. You see which one was in jail.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Then explain how Trump is the only the DOJ has gone after for documents

https://justthenews.com/government/...een-involved-ex-presidents-missing-docs-trump

It's amazing how out of touch with reality you are.

Attorney General Merrick Garland has named attorney Robert Hur, a Trump appointee, as special counsel to investigate whether President Biden improperly handled classified documents.

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/13/1148934429/robert-hur-doj-special-counsel-biden-classified-documents

 

[QP!]

The government did not have the right to all of the documents. Trump was negotiating in good faith exactly like other Presidents have done.

Biden without question had ZERO right to secret documents that he stole from a SCIF while he was a Senator. Hunter also had a email that sounds like an intelligence report typically given to a President and had information that he had no business having. We need to see what secret document Hunter had access to an if this email was lifted from confidential documents.

Once you swear out an affidavit that you have NO MORE documents "negotiations" on returning any others is over as you are saying 'I don't have any more and you cannot prove that i do' and i will not comply with your subpoena.

Sadly for Trump a search warrant proved otherwise and exposed his crime. The one he will rightly be charged with and lose to in court.

 

[archives]

The government did not have the right to all of the documents. Trump was negotiating in good faith exactly like other Presidents have done.

Biden without question had ZERO right to secret documents that he stole from a SCIF while he was a Senator. Hunter also had a email that sounds like an intelligence report typically given to a President and had information that he had no business having. We need to see what secret document Hunter had access to an if this email was lifted from confidential documents.

Wait a minute, where does the “Trump was negotiating in good faith” come from? In what world is flat out lying “negotiating in good faith?”

And the “sounds like” is beautiful, the upper echelons of the Trump campaign secretly meets with Russians in Trump Tower and that means nothing but “sounds like” implies guilt.

 

[QP!]

And oh HEY, Jim Jordan is talking about yet another Hilary Clinton investigation that will end in yet another nothing burger.

Jim Jordan Suggests GOP May Target Hillary Clinton With New Investigation

Republiclowns

Spoiler

 

[ExpressLane]

Once you swear out an affidavit that you have NO MORE documents "negotiations" on returning any others is over as you are saying 'I don't have any more and you cannot prove that i do' and i will not comply with your subpoena.

Sadly for Trump a search warrant proved otherwise and exposed his crime. The one he will rightly be charged with and lose to in court.

Trump had already let the National Archive take the documents they wanted he didn't think they had the rights to the remaining documents. Biden on the other hand had documents where his drug addict son and his Russian hos could get to them. He also had documents that he apparently smuggled out of a SCIF when he was a Senator. Why aren't you upset about that?

Actually everything that Trump took home was declassified when he had it taken to his home. There is no offical proceedure for a President to declassify. Him OKing them to be taken to his home declassified them.

Biden had no such power so NONE of the documents he had at his home for years and years were declassified. If a bank robber returned the money AFTER he had been caught do you think the DOJ would just say "never mind".

 

[ExpressLane]

And oh HEY, Jim Jordan is talking about yet another Hilary Clinton investigation that will end in yet another nothing burger.

Jim Jordan Suggests GOP May Target Hillary Clinton With New Investigation

Republiclowns

Federal agencies did, however, retrospectively determine that 100 emails contained information that should have been deemed classified at the time they were sent, including 65 emails deemed "Secret" and 22 deemed "Top Secret"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy

 

[QP!]

Trump had already let the National Archive take the documents they wanted ...

LIES.

He had given them some and not all.

he didn't think they had the rights to the remaining documents.

What he thinks does not matter when given a subpoena. You are obligated to give them all and he lied saying he had none left.

If you are subpoenaed to turn over all your emails, you cannot pick and choose what to send and use as a defense 'I thought you had no right to the remaining emails'. If you sign an affidavit swearing you have no more emails and you do, that is a crime. Trump committed a crime.

Biden on the other hand had documents where his drug addict son and his Russian hos could get to them. He also had documents that he apparently smuggled out of a SCIF when he was a Senator. Why aren't you upset about that?

We can all be upset at Biden, Pence and Trump being careless with documents and that is ok but ONLY Trump committed the crime in lying to try to deny he had them and to keep them.

We care about the CRIME.

Actually everything that Trump took home was declassified when he had it taken to his home. There is no offical proceedure for a President to declassify. Him OKing them to be taken to his home declassified them.

LIES.

There is a procedure for declassifying and Trump did not go thru it so they are not declassified no matter how many times he lies about it.

Biden had no such power so NONE of the documents he had at his home for years and years were declassified. If a bank robber returned the money AFTER he had been caught do you think the DOJ would just say "never mind".

Biden never claimed to declassify them. Nor did Pence. They just took them home as part of their normal VP duties, and were careless with them and they gave them back when instructed thus there is no crime of obstruction or lying to charge. So the DOJ has nothing on either of them. Trump lied under oath (affidavit) and that is the crime he will be prosecuted for, rightly.

 

[ExpressLane]

LIES.

He had given them some and not all.


What he thinks does not matter when given a subpoena. You are obligated to give them all and he lied saying he had none left.

If you are subpoenaed to turn over all your emails, you cannot pick and choose what to send and use as a defense 'I thought you had no right to the remaining emails'. If you sign an affidavit swearing you have no more emails and you do, that is a crime. Trump committed a crime.



We can all be upset at Biden, Pence and Trump being careless with documents and that is ok but ONLY Trump committed the crime in lying to try to deny he had them and to keep them.

We care about the CRIME.


LIES.

There is a procedure for declassifying and Trump did not go thru it so they are not declassified no matter how many times he lies about it.


Biden never claimed to declassify them. Nor did Pence. They just took them home as part of their normal VP duties, and were careless with them and they gave them back when instructed thus there is no crime of obstruction or lying to charge. So the DOJ has nothing on either of them. Trump lied under oath (affidavit) and that is the crime he will be prosecuted for, rightly.

Idiot Biden didn't claim he declassified any thing because he did not have the authority to declassify. Trump had the right to declassify anything he wanted to. Biden NEVER had the authority to take a classified document home when he was a Senator yet he had documents from when he was a Senator. He obviously purposely smuggle it home.

 

[QP!]

Idiot Biden didn't claim he declassified any thing because he did not have the authority to declassify. Trump had the right to declassify anything he wanted to. Biden NEVER had the authority to take a classified document home when he was a Senator yet he has documents from when he was a Senator.

Brain dead Trump idiot, the issue is not about who CLAIMS they can declassify or not. that is Trumps claim alone and it is WRONG. Others are not held to Trumps claim.

The issue with Biden and Pence is that UNLIKE Trump they did not lie and obstruct justice when found with the documents. Biden and Pence gave them back, whereas Trump LIED and swore in a affidavit he did not have any. THAT is the crime and it is crime neither Biden or Pence committed.

 

[Nordberg]

Trump had already let the National Archive take the documents they wanted he didn't think they had the rights to the remaining documents. Biden on the other hand had documents where his drug addict son and his Russian hos could get to them. He also had documents that he apparently smuggled out of a SCIF when he was a Senator. Why aren't you upset about that?

Actually everything that Trump took home was declassified when he had it taken to his home. There is no offical proceedure for a President to declassify. Him OKing them to be taken to his home declassified them.

Biden had no such power so NONE of the documents he had at his home for years and years were declassified. If a bank robber returned the money AFTER he had been caught do you think the DOJ would just say "never mind".

Trump not only hid documents but lied to the FBI. That is why the government came for the documents. Trump had no intention of returning them. He wrongly has claimed he had a right to them. That is a typical Trumpian lie. The real question is why did Trump steal them? He was going to do something crooked with them. Trump deliberately stole classified documents. Pence and Biden did not even know they had them, but they quickly returned them. They were guilty of making a mistake. They were obviously not doing anything nefarious with them. They were sitting in a garage. Trump DELIBERATELY took documents he was not entitled to.

 

[QP!]

Yes Express Lane is just spewing shit.

There IS a process for declassifying things beyond 'Trump Thoughts' and Trump knows this as his own White House provided that in the only 3 Precedent cases like this during Trump's term.

Due to Trumps stating in Media appearances or on Twitter that he had declassified the info on three separate issues, various media went to Court with FOIA requests to then get the now declassified info.

In all 3 instances Trumps own WH staff or DOJ went to court to argue Trump had not ACTUALLY declassified by just saying the words 'they are now declassified' on the news or in Tweets, or by Sarah Sanders saying in a press conference Trump had advised her he had declassified them, ....that because Trump HAD NOT followed thru with the REQUIRED next steps and procedures which are REQUIRED to declassify, they were still protected and classified. IN one instance Mark Meadows was the one in court arguing for the Trump admin saying Trumps stated words alone were not sufficient to declassify. And he won.

And in all three cases the petition for FOIA was denied and lawsuit lost as the courts recognized that Trumps words alone or his tweets alone were NOT ENOUGH to declassify without the required follow up and thus the material remained classified and not subject ot FOIA.

- James Madison Project v. U.S. Department of Justice
- New York Times and Matthew Rosenberg v. Central Intelligence Agency
- Leopold v. Department of Justice


So NO, Trump cannot simply declassify with a thought when he cannot even with a press conference and/or Tweet, WITHOUT following through and doing the required work. Trump doing Step 1 (Declaration), means nothing if Step 2 (the Process) is not directed to be completed and followed thru on.

 

[Nordberg]

Manafort was a tax cheat just like Hunter Biden. You see which one was in jail.

Manafort was proven to be a tax cheat, among other things. Hunter has been proven of nothing. He has not gone to court. So we should think Manafort, determined guilty in court is the same as your far, far right-wing belief about Hunter?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Idiot Biden didn't claim he declassified any thing because he did not have the authority to declassify. Trump had the right to declassify anything he wanted to.

The problem Trump has with this is there is a specific procedure for declassification. The grand jury has supposedly been given evidence that Trump was informed of this procedure on more than one occasion.

But the biggest problem for Trump is the allegation that he hid documents that were asked for under a subpoena. That is a crime that doesn't matter if the documents were classified or not. Obstruction of justice is hiding documents you were asked to turn over under a subpoena. The subpoena asked for all documents with classification markings. It only matters if the markings existed or not.