Republican Voters have a 3rd-5th grade intellectual level (Newt Gingrich)

[evince]

Meese spent much of his adult life working for Reagan, first after the former actor, sports announcer and athlete was elected as California’s governor in 1966 and then when he sought and won the presidency in 1980.

Reagan never forgot Meese's loyalty and hard work. During a press conference at which reporters questioned Meese's actions at the Justice Department, Reagan replied: "If Ed Meese is not a good man, there are no good men."

During the Reagan governorship, Meese served as executive assistant and chief of staff from 1969 through 1974 and as legal affairs secretary from 1967 through 1968. He previously was deputy district attorney in Alameda County, Calif.

 

[evince]

So all Ronny had to do in both Iran contra and that election stealing case was to tell his butt boy Doj head Meese that he didn’t know about the crimes



And Meese just left it there

 

[evince]

Reagan was worse than Nixon


A bigger criminal


Then we had your Bush who lied us to war

Americans died for those lies so Cheney and friends could scoop up some oil profits


Then they crashed the economy with fucking lies



Then came your criminal Trump

 

[evince]

More whataboutism, evince, or do you agree with me that all should be prosecuted?

Why should Americans settle for corruption, cronyism and criminal activity, no matter how slight, in our elected government?

It’s called historical facts



You got nothing real on Hilary

 

[evince]

Meese had been with Ronnie most of his adult life

He followed him around like a puppy

 

[evince]

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/iran-contra-dealings-revealed-november-25-1986-231769



Subsequent investigations by special prosecutor Lawrence Walsh and by a special joint Senate-House committee led to the convictions of 11 White House, State Department and intelligence officials on charges ranging from conspiracy and perjury to withholding information from Congress. Some of these convictions were later vacated on appeal. Walsh also found that Reagan and Vice President George H.W. Bush had made a “concerted effort to deceive Congress and the public” about the illicit deal.


On Christmas Eve 1992, Bush, who had succeeded Reagan in the presidency, pardoned six major figures enmeshed in the affair. Two of them, former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger and former chief of CIA operations Duane Clarridge, were scheduled to be tried for perjury.

To this day, Reagan’s role in the affair remains shrouded. It is unclear what Reagan knew and when, and whether the arms sales were motivated by his desire to save the U.S. hostages. Notes taken on Dec. 7, 1985, by Weinberger record that Reagan said ‘he could answer charges of illegality but he couldn’t answer charge [sic] that ‘big strong President Reagan passed up a chance to free hostages.’”

The Republican-drafted Report of the Congressional Committees Investigating the Iran-Contra Affair concluded “there is some question and dispute about precisely the level at which he chose to follow the operation[al] details. There is no doubt, however, ... [that] the president set the U.S. policy towards Nicaragua, with few if any ambiguities, and then left subordinates more or less free to implement it.”

 

[evince]

Reagan knew


He knew about the election crimes too


But he had Meese his puppy dog as the DOJ head to protect him

 

[evince]

Facts and history matter

 

[evince]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Meese



As Reagan's chief of staff, Meese was instrumental in the decision to crack down on student protesters at People's Park in Berkeley, California, on May 15, 1969. Meese was widely criticized for escalating the official response to the People's Park protest, during which law enforcement officers killed one student, on his way to class, who was not a protester and injured hundreds of others, including bystanders. Meese advised Reagan to declare a state of emergency in Berkeley, contrary to the recommendation of the Berkeley City Council. That resulted in a two-week occupation of People's Park by National Guard troops.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

What Hilary did was NOT A CRIME!

Not a lawyer, but the Federal statutes quoted to Cypress indicates it was. You know, like Petraeus and anyone else being careless with our nation's security.

AFAIK, there's the violation itself and then there's the severity of the crime. While Biden, Clinton, Trump and others all violated those regs, there's a huge fucking difference between the circumstances of the violation.

A point all political fanatics seek to overlook and refuse to discuss since they will never admit their side had fault.

 

[evince]

Not a lawyer, but the Federal statutes quoted to Cypress indicates it was. You know, like Petraeus and anyone else being careless with our nation's security.

AFAIK, there's the violation itself and then there's the severity of the crime. While Biden, Clinton, Trump and others all violated those regs, there's a huge fucking difference between the circumstances of the violation.

A point all political fanatics seek to overlook and refuse to discuss since they will never admit their side had fault.

It’s not a crime


No one else was even investigated

 

[evince]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Meese



As Reagan's chief of staff, Meese was instrumental in the decision to crack down on student protesters at People's Park in Berkeley, California, on May 15, 1969. Meese was widely criticized for escalating the official response to the People's Park protest, during which law enforcement officers killed one student, on his way to class, who was not a protester and injured hundreds of others, including bystanders. Meese advised Reagan to declare a state of emergency in Berkeley, contrary to the recommendation of the Berkeley City Council. That resulted in a two-week occupation of People's Park by National Guard troops.

Meese helped plan the crimes with Reagan

 

[QP!]

My question was poorly constructed. To go back and find all the gaffes either of them made on a daily basis would tanke an entire summer. I do not have the time for that.

Which is always the same version of the answer i get.

Some Trumper talks shit that Biden makes more gaffs and yet when challenged they ALWAYS back down. Statements without proof.

it is not hard at all, or time consuming at all for me to find Trump gaffs because if he is talking he is almost always saying something painfully stupid. Trump is, by far, the dumbest person to sit in the POTUS chair which is saying a lot following 'W'.

 

[QP!]

Yes; he is saying he needs to keep his messaging so clear that even democrats can understand it.

I love that is what you have to tell yourself and the lie you feel you need to accept.

You accept Newt is saying Trump needs to appeal to the intellect of children but you spin it as if that was referring to Dems and not the Trump voters which is clearly what Newt ws saying.


The more you guys have to lie about reality because you realize reality is just brutalizing you as seen as stupid marks, the more i like it.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Nixon should have been prosecuted


Then Ronny Rayguns would not have cheated

And would not have won

Agreed. Instead he got a pardon...which is an admission of guilt, BTW.

Reagan must have been very, very smart to put one over a Democratic Senate and a Democratic House. Not that it makes it legal, of course. Just that he was sooooo much smarter than the Democratic dumbasses in those days.

Kinda like Trump claiming the Democrats cheated him out of the election, an admission that the Democrats were smarter. LOL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/96th_United_States_Congress
The 96th United States Congress...met in Washington, D.C. from January 3, 1979, to January 3, 1981, during the last two years of Jimmy Carter's presidency....Both chambers retained a Democratic majority (though downgraded from the supermajority status in the previous Congress), and with President Carter, maintained an overall federal government trifecta.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Which links

And I have repeatedly shown you Reagan was a fucking election criminal

If you don't want to scroll up, that's your choice.

Awesome. So, given that's true, then, in California, Hillary is 100% not guilty?

I have no reason to believe you are lying about Reagan, but fail to see why that applies to Hillary, Trump or anyone else today?

If you're worried about Hillary going to prison, don't be. Her day is done. Trump's problems would have lessened, maybe even dropped (cost over justice), had he not chosen to keep pushing his election lies and strong sway over the Republican Party. Seems to bother a majority of Americans.

The former president’s primary support now falls short of a majority among some relatively small blocs of Republican and Republican-leaning voters – among them, those who say President Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory was legitimate (27% of whom support him), White college graduates (38%), self-described moderates or liberals (45%), and independents who lean toward the GOP (43%). But voters in those groups have yet to unite more strongly around any alternative either, with DeSantis below the 30% mark with each group and other candidates still further behind.

 

[Callinectes]

I used to write articles on leadership and management for military periodicals. The guy who edited that stuff actually had a computer program that would tell you what grade level your content was at. He sent a lot of stuff back, telling us to write like we were conversing with a 7th or 8th grader because are target audiences were college students. It works when you have to promulgate a lot of information over a wide audience, and you've got to do it quickly. Average it all out and 3rd, 4th, and 5th grade levels is probably a good start.

 

[Lionfish]

Which is always the same version of the answer i get.

Some Trumper talks shit that Biden makes more gaffs and yet when challenged they ALWAYS back down. Statements without proof.

it is not hard at all, or time consuming at all for me to find Trump gaffs because if he is talking he is almost always saying something painfully stupid. Trump is, by far, the dumbest person to sit in the POTUS chair which is saying a lot following 'W'.

I'm not backing down, the p[roblem Brandon's lies are not reported but in a very few places, and searching for them is much more difficult and time consuming Even the thickest of you lefties have to admit that Brandon is a walking gaffe machine, and totally unfit for office, but for his cadre of puppet masters would be living in senior housing.
As I said before, both are idiots and should not be running for or be in any public office.
My fondest wish is that you alt lefties would finally take Trump out and allow a plethora of younger, less boisterous, Republicans make their case to the American people.

 

[QP!]

I'm not backing down, the p[roblem Brandon's lies are not reported but in a very few places, and searching for them is much more difficult and time consuming Even the thickest of you lefties have to admit that Brandon is a walking gaffe machine, and totally unfit for office, but for his cadre of puppet masters would be living in senior housing.
As I said before, both are idiots and should not be running for or be in any public office.
My fondest wish is that you alt lefties would finally take Trump out and allow a plethora of younger, less boisterous, Republicans make their case to the American people.

ahahahahahaha


So you first claim Biden gaffs more than Trump and then offer to bet on it.

And now you are saying 'ya he gaffs, but i cannot find them in the public statements he said as POTUS statements are hard to find.

FLOL.

Every time the POTUS speaks it is on youtube for you to find.

You are a typical republiclown. 100% accusation. Zero percent proof or ability to back up any thing you say.

Trump wins this hands down. No politician in the history of politics at the POTUS level has uttered the volume of stupidity Trump has. You have to go down to MTG and Boebert levels to match the volume of stupidity Trump spews.

 

[Lionfish]

ahahahahahaha


So you first claim Biden gaffs more than Trump and then offer to bet on it.

And now you are saying 'ya he gaffs, but i cannot find them in the public statements he said as POTUS statements are hard to find.

FLOL.

Every time the POTUS speaks it is on youtube for you to find.

You are a typical republiclown. 100% accusation. Zero percent proof or ability to back up any thing you say.

Trump wins this hands down. No politician in the history of politics at the POTUS level has uttered the volume of stupidity Trump has. You have to go down to MTG and Boebert levels to match the volume of stupidity Trump spews.

Who offered any bet?