What is woke about the lil mermaid?

[ThatOwlWoman]

Her hair is red tinted in the movie. Ursula even calls her 'red'. Yes, there were minor, and I mean MINOR tweaks to song lyrics to reflect the changes in attitudes towards women in the decades since the original was made. Oh, boo hoo hoo.

Be curious, not judgmental. If you are curious you would see the film. If you are judgmental, you will let others form your opinion for you. Enough said. That saying really resonates with me. Part of why I loved Ted Lasso. It perfectly sums up the problems that are apparent in this thread. Lots of judgment, ZERO curiousity.

Good point. Lots of judgments, based on what some were told to think rather than direct knowledge, and which they embraced due to their innate prejudices.

I haven't seen either movie nor do I plan to. Nothing political, I just don't care for the genre.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

You kids get outta my yard!!!!!!!

ROTFLMFAO. Damn dude, you are wound tight as a drum. Get over yourself. Seriously.

It is nice that we just had to scratch you a little and you went full racist. It was SOOOO easy.

Full racist and misogynist as well.

 

[Concart]

Good point. Lots of judgments, based on what some were told to think rather than direct knowledge, and which they embraced due to their innate prejudices.

I haven't seen either movie nor do I plan to. Nothing political, I just don't care for the genre.

Apparently though, that is not allowed in their world. You MUST CARE about the things they care about. Honestly, there aren't that many things that are really important to me. Helps make life less stressful.

 

[Nomad]

LOL. My kids were born in 1996 and 1999. MY KID turned me on to Biggie. You truly know absolutely nothing. It's amazing.

So you're a Notorious B.I.G. fan, eh?

You called him a genius awhile ago.

Here is some samplings of what you call his "genius".

I'd be interested in you telling me exactly what it is about the following shit (yes, I mean shit in the literal sense) that you think constitutes genius.

"Juicy"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"It was all a dream, I used to read Word Up! magazine/Salt-N-Pepa and Heavy D up in the limousine/Hangin' pictures on my wall/Every Saturday Rap Attack, Mr. Magic, Marley Marl"

"Gimme the Loot"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"Then I'm dipping up the block and I'm robbing bitches too/Up the herringbones and bamboos/I wouldn't give a fuck if you're pregnant/Give me the baby rings and the No. 1 mom pendant"

"Warning"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"Who the fuck is this? Paging me at 5:46/In the morning, crack of dawn and/Now I'm yawning, wipe the cold out my eye/See who's this paging me and why?"


"Big Poppa"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"Straight up, honey, really I'm askin'/Most of these niggas think they be mackin', but they be actin'/Who they attractin' with that line/'What's your name? What's your sign?'/Soon as he buy that wine, I just creep up from behind/And ask what your interests are, who you be with/Things that make you smile, what numbers to dial"

"Unbelievable"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"And those that rushes my clutches get put on crutches/Get smoked like dutches from the master/Hate to blast you but I have to, you see I smoke a lot/Your life is played out like Kwame and them fucking polka dots, who rock the spot, Biggie/You know how the weed go, unbelievable"

"The What"
The Notorious B.I.G. Featuring Method Man
"So instead of making hoes suck my dick up/I used to do stick-ups, cause hoes is irritating like the hiccups/Excuse me, flows just grow through me/Like trees to branches, cliffs to avalanches/It's the praying mantis, deep like the mind of Farrakhan/A motherfucking rap phenomenon"


"Juicy"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis/When I was dead broke, man, I couldn't picture this/50-inch screen, money green leather sofa/Got two rides, a limousine with a chauffeur/Phone bill about two G's flat/No need to worry, my accountant handles that/And my whole crew is lounging/Celebrating every day, no more public housing"

"Suicidal Thoughts"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"When I die, fuck it, I wanna go to hell/Cause I'm a piece of shit, it ain't hard to fucking tell/It don't make sense, going to heaven with the goodie-goodies/Dressed in white, I like black Timbs and black hoodies/God'll prolly have me on some real strict shit/No sleeping all day, no getting my dick licked/Hanging with the goodie-goodies lounging in paradise/Fuck that shit, I wanna tote guns and shoot dice"

"Hypnotize"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"I put hoes in NY onto DKNY/Miami, D.C. prefer Versace/All Philly hoes, go with Moschino/Every cutie wit a booty bought a Coogi"


"Kick in the Door"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"Your reign on the top was short like leprechauns/As I crush so-called willies, thugs, and rapper-dons/Get in that ass, quick fast, like Ramadan/It's that rap phenomenon Don Dada, fuck Poppa/You got to call me Francis M.H. White/Intake light tokes, tote iron/Was told in shootouts, stay low and keep firin'"

"Fuck You Tonight"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"Some say the X, make the sex Spec-tacular/Make me lick you from yo' neck to your back, then ya/Shivering, tongue delivering/Chills up that spine, that ass is mine/Skip the wine and the candlelight, no Cristal tonight/If it's all right with you, we fuckin' (that's cool)"

"What's Beef"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"See me, B that is, I that is, G whiz/Motherfuckers still in my biz/Don't they know my nigga Gutter fuckin' kidnap kids/Fuck 'em in the ass, throw 'em over the bridge/That's how it is, my shit is laid out/Fuck that beef shit, that shit is played out"


"Niggas Bleed"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"Today's agenda, got the suitcase up in the Sentra/Go to room 112, tell them Blanco sent ya/Feel the strangest, if no money exchanges/I got these kids in Ranges, to leave them niggas brainless"

"I Got a Story to Tell"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"The shit she kicked, all the shit's legit/She get dick from a player off the New York Knicks/Nigga tricked ridiculous, the shit was plush/She's stressin me to fuck, like she was in a rush/We fucked in his bed, quite dangerous/I'm in his ass while he playin gainst the Utah Jazz/My 112, CD blast, I was past/She came twice I came last, roll the grass"

"Long Kiss Goodnight"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"I make yo' mouthpiece obese like Della Reese/When I release, you lose teeth like Lil' Cease/Nigga please, blood floods your dungarees/And that's just the half of my warpath/Laugh now cry later, I rhyme greater/Than the average playa hater, and spectators/Buy my CD twice; they see me in the streets/They be like, 'Yo he nice, but that's on the low though'"

"Sky's the Limit"
The Notorious B.I.G. Featuring 112
"If the game shakes me or breaks me/I hope it makes me a better man, take a better stand/Put money in my mom's hand/Get my daughter this college grant so she don't need no man/Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart's in it/And live the phrase 'Sky's the limit'"

"Ten Crack Commandments"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"Number six, that goddamn credit? Dead it/You think a crackhead paying you back, shit forget it!/Seven, this rule is so underrated/Keep your family and business completely separated/Money and blood don't mix like two dicks and no bitch/Find yourself in serious shit"

"Notorious Thugs"
The Notorious B.I.G. Featuring Bone Thugs-n-Harmony
"Spit your game, talk your shit/Grab your gat, call your clique/Squeeze your clip, hit the right one/Pass that weed, I got to light one/All them niggas, I got to fight one/All them hoes, I got to like one/Our situation is a tight one/What you gonna do: fight or run?"

"Who Shot Ya"
The Notorious B.I.G.
"Who shot ya? Separate the weak from the obsolete/Hard to creep them Brooklyn streets/It's on nigga, fuck all that bickering beef/I can hear sweat trickling down your cheek/Your heartbeat sound like Sasquatch feet/Thundering, shaking the concrete/Then the shit stop when I foil the plot/Neighbors call the cops, said they heard mad shots"

"Dead Wrong"
The Notorious B.I.G. Featuring Eminem
"I don't wanna rape ya, I just want the paper/The Visa, kapeesha? I'm out like The Vapors/Who's the one you call Mr. Macho?/The head honcho, swift fist, like Camacho/I got so much style I should be down with the Stylistics/'Make up to break up'/Niggas need to wake up/Smell the Indonesia, beat you to a seizure/Then fuck your moms, hit the skins to amnesia"

Because quite frankly, it looks to me like the childish blabbering of a 15 year old who hasn't spend much time at the library.

Anyone who would describe that low level, juvenile filth as genius has issues.

Are you really impressed by that trash?

 

[Nomad]

Full racist and misogynist as well.

Are you a Cardi B fan, T.W.O.?

Just curious.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

He went from zero to 60 in about two seconds. But he keeps coming up with a new theory as to why I don't give a fuck about music lyrics. I wonder what the next one will be.

He does that.

A term for "zero to 60 in about two seconds" is "emotionally unstable". This could be for a number of reasons aside from mental illness. The most common causes are stress or pain. Due to the elderly demographics of JPP, I'm guessing pain to be the most likely but it could be stress from personal issues such as loss (e.g. death or divorce) or financial issues (e.g. bad investments or excessive medical bills).

 

[Nomad]

I would suggest then, since this kind of thing enrages you, that you don't spend money to see it. Problem solved.

I did not forbid my daughters to watch Disney stuff when they were growing up, but I didn't encourage it either. I didn't want them to grow up with the idea that girls are helpless by themselves and need a man to 'save' them like many of the much earlier Disney movies (and fairy tales as well) seemed to suggest. They didn't. They are all three happily married, with college degrees and good careers and children. So they're none of your fictitious man-haters that you fear. lol

Why do you think my trying to have a rational conversation with you, who are apparently not capable of having one, makes me enraged?

Are you so used to just tossing zingers and accusations of racism at those who take opposing views instead of discussing, that it's all you know how to do?

I think a "black" actress was chosen for that role because Disney wanted to appease.

That is a criticism of Disney, not the actress.

Are you really too thick to get that?

 

[Nomad]

He went from zero to 60 in about two seconds. But he keeps coming up with a new theory as to why I don't give a fuck about music lyrics. I wonder what the next one will be.

The fact is noted that you cannot defend or explain what the value to society is, of filthy rap lyrics.

No surprise.

You mindlessly defend that which falls into the category of wokeness.

No need to think about anything.

 

[Concart]

So you're a Notorious B.I.G. fan, eh?

You called him a genius awhile ago.

Here is some samplings of what you call his "genius".

I'd be interested in you telling me exactly what it is about the following shit (yes, I mean shit in the literal sense) that you think constitutes genius.



Because quite frankly, it looks to me like the childish blabbering of a 15 year old who hasn't spend much time at the library.

Anyone who would describe that low level, juvenile filth as genius has issues.

Are you really impressed by that trash?

Because you are a small minded bigot. Biggie was a genius. His ability to turn multiple musical influences into rap that spoke to a huge demographic was sheer brilliance. I find most rap is garbage, but not all of it. You have passed judgment without knowing anything. Because that's who you are. I'm glad my world is larger and more colorful than yours. I can't imagine how badly life must suck for you.

 

[Nomad]

He does that.

A term for "zero to 60 in about two seconds" is "emotionally unstable". This could be for a number of reasons aside from mental illness. The most common causes are stress or pain. Due to the elderly demographics of JPP, I'm guessing pain to be the most likely but it could be stress from personal issues such as loss (e.g. death or divorce) or financial issues (e.g. bad investments or excessive medical bills).

Dutch Carbunkle thinks he's a psychologist and can diagnose people based on message board postings even though he probably has about a 6th grade reading level.

 

[Nomad]

Because you are a small minded bigot. Biggie was a genius. His ability to turn multiple musical influences into rap that spoke to a huge demographic was sheer brilliance. I find most rap is garbage, but not all of it. You have passed judgment without knowing anything. Because that's who you are. I'm glad my world is larger and more colorful than yours. I can't imagine how badly life must suck for you.

Explain please.

What musical influences are found in his "music"?

Rockabilly?

Country western?

Classical?

British invasion?

Broadway show tunes?

Big band era?

What?

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

ROTFLMFAO!!!! Did you think rap was just invented? What the fuck dude, you are clueless.

The youngest of my two sons listened to hip-top when he was a teenager. I made him listen in his room with the door closed because he had two younger pre-teen sisters. He will be 42 next month.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Apparently though, that is not allowed in their world. You MUST CARE about the things they care about. Honestly, there aren't that many things that are really important to me. Helps make life less stressful.

You are wise. A lot of the biddies gossiping and screeching on this thread about other people here plus THAT MOVIE maybe should heed your example. It's a MOVIE. It's not worth becoming so enraged. Toxic, for one, has been on here spasming about THE MOVIE for five days now.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Are you a Cardi B fan, T.W.O.?

Just curious.

T.W.O.?

I don't believe I'd heard of her until this thread. I do know who Beyonce is, of course. But couldn't name a single song of hers. Sorry.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You are wise. A lot of the biddies gossiping and screeching on this thread about other people here plus THAT MOVIE maybe should heed your example. It's a MOVIE. It's not worth becoming so enraged. Toxic, for one, has been on here spasming about THE MOVIE for five days now.

Agreed movies aren't worth becoming enraged over, but the emotionally unstable don't really need an excuse to become enraged. They just are. They have no more control over it than an epileptic has over their seizures.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Why do you think my trying to have a rational conversation with you, who are apparently not capable of having one, makes me enraged?

This is only your second post to me in this discussion; the other was a question, not a "rational conversation." I've read many of your posts so far, just today. You appear angry and irrational.

Are you so used to just tossing zingers and accusations of racism at those who take opposing views instead of discussing, that it's all you know how to do?

Strawman. I don't do that in lieu of conversation. Next?

I think a "black" actress was chosen for that role because Disney wanted to appease.

That is a criticism of Disney, not the actress.

Are you really too thick to get that?

1. Why do you care why Disney casts a role with any particular actor? Esp. in a genre you're unlikely to want to watch.

2. Why does Disney need to "appease" anyone? You deliberately chose that word over the more accurate "appeal to." Why would you do that?

3. When you need to resort to getting personal with insults, you've lost.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Maybe so. Maybe at some point, earlier or later depending on the person, you simply run out of things that give you joy in life. If that's inevitable I'll be fine with journeying on before that point. I'm not convinced though that it is inevitable. Guess we'll find out.

I suspect the inevitability is highly dependent on how much one has lost,
and how much one misses it.

I didn't grow up in a strict Middle American household.
Where I was, there was a lot of potential stimulation out there,
and I had access to most of it.
I was privileged to have a lot to lose, so now I must endure having lost it.

But then there's the real stupid thing I must stop imagining.

What would it have been like
to live in that world
when I had a little money in my pocket,
and more importantly, all the free time in the world?

Are you following me with that frustration?
If not, my fate is not inevitable for you at all.
You're fine, and I'm glad.

 

[Nomad]

This is only your second post to me in this discussion; the other was a question, not a "rational conversation." I've read many of your posts so far, just today. You appear angry and irrational.

You have responded to others about me though, with the same old "he's just a racist/misogynist" trope.

Rather than address me personally.

Strawman. I don't do that in lieu of conversation. Next?

I would argue that. But we all do it.

I'm wondering why on this subject, towards me, it seems to have been your go to move.

1. Why do you care why Disney casts a role with any particular actor? Esp. in a genre you're unlikely to want to watch.

If they do this and nobody holds them accountable, when are they going to stop? Every time the POC/alphabet community complains about not getting enough of one thing or another, are companies all going to keep jumping to cede to their demands?

Like cancel culture, I think it's getting kind of silly.

This is an opinion forum and I have an opinion about it which I have expressed.

You and others wish I'd shut up, so I won't.

2. Why does Disney need to "appease" anyone? You deliberately chose that word over the more accurate "appeal to." Why would you do that?

I've addressed that more than once.

My opinion is that they are afraid of being portrayed as racist by the media and having their potential customers turned against them, affecting their profits.

3. When you need to resort to getting personal with insults, you've lost.

Exactly what I said when you referred to me as racist and misogynist.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You have responded to others about me though, with the same old "he's just a racist/misogynist" trope.

Rather than address me personally.



I would argue that. But we all do it.

I'm wondering why on this subject, towards me, it seems to have been your go to move.



If they do this and nobody holds them accountable, when are they going to stop? Every time the POC/alphabet community complains about not getting enough of one thing or another, are companies all going to keep jumping to cede to their demands?

Like cancel culture, I think it's getting kind of silly.

This is an opinion forum and I have an opinion about it which I have expressed.

You and others wish I'd shut up, so I won't.



I've addressed that more than once.

My opinion is that they are afraid of being portrayed as racist by the media and having their potential customers turned against them, affecting their profits.



Exactly what I said when you referred to me as racist and misogynist.

You're very excitable....and appear to be overcompensating in a casual internet conversation. Why?

 

[Life is Golden]

Anyone who would describe that low level, juvenile filth as genius has issues.

Are you really impressed by that trash?

You know he is terrified of blacks. Remember when he told the story he was approached in a parking lot by a black thug and he surrendered his laptop?

He says anything to appease the church of woke. He probably puts shoe polish on his face and wears "tuck-friendly" garments.