Americans losing faith in elections process

[Sammy Jankis]

You've made this criticism before, dumbo, while having about a fifty-fifty chance of discerning the difference yourself; it's one of your fall backs from your normal position of having nothing pertinent to say. You did manage this time to restrain yourself a little, only a five minute gap between the times the post went up and your reply blossomed.

at least you acknowledge it's a beautiful flower.

there is hope for you.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

That's a load of crap and you know it. trump's own information systems czar called the 2020 election the most secure in history. The article you posted has nothing to do with your claim, by the way.

its not a load of crap.

dems want less secure elections, and ironically they call it "protecting voter rights".

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Do Democrats want and favor...

All mail-in ballot elections?
Automatic voter registration when you get your driver's license?
Making it hard or impossible to purge and make voter rolls accurate?
Ballot harvesting?
Automatic mailing of ballots to every voter on the registration list?
Weeks to vote?
Ballot drop boxes?

Well, do the Democrats favor all of that or not?

The Democrats want all Americans that want to vote, to be able to vote, and we want all of their votes to actually count, without being subjected to RED STATE LAWS that suppress their votes and make it as difficult as possible to be able to register and vote.

We believe in verifiable voter registration, fair districting, fair elections, and strict punishments for violations for anyone caught cheating in the registration, voting, or counting processes.

Next!

 

[serendipity]

It's both fucking parties! Are you retarded? Both parties in their own ways are causing this problem. I can see and admit that. Until you can see your side is culpable too, you can't grasp this issue.

Are you retarded? I assume that a rhetorical question.

 

[serendipity]

The Democrats want all Americans that want to vote, to be able to vote, and we want all of their votes to actually count, without being subjected to RED STATE LAWS that suppress their votes and make it as difficult as possible to be able to register and vote.

We believe in verifiable voter registration, fair districting, fair elections, and strict punishments for violations for anyone caught cheating in the registration, voting, or counting processes.

Next!

Bullshit on steroids!

 

[Dutch Uncle]

stink?

It was a good guess that you didn't have a clue, Fredo, but I wanted to give you the chance to prove you did.
Better luck next time.

 

[martin]

at least you acknowledge it's a beautiful flower.

there is hope for you.

You're another waste. If this were a debate site you and dumbo would be long gone but for both you dummies it's a crapper.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Bullshit on steroids!

Sir, your insults, denying, hypocrisy, and attitude towards Democrats says more about you than it does about any Democrat!

And your constant and obsessive cheerleading of "Yea us Republicans- and Boo ya'll Democrats" is childish, redundant, boorish, boring, asinine, incendiary, and useless.

 

[BartenderElite]

Trump was ALWAYS going to lie about the election. It's what he does.

Everyone is like "2020 was different - it was all of the mail in." But, Trump also said that the 2016 election had "massive fraud" and that Dems cheated in that one, too.

Know why? Because he LOST THE POPULAR VOTE. That's it. It's not something that matters one iota in Presidential elections, but it bruised his very tender ego - so he had to lie about it.

Again: it's what he does.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

It was a good guess that you didn't have a clue, Fredo, but I wanted to give you the chance to prove you did.
Better luck next time.

that's right. nobody said trump won through russian interference.

you're right.

not.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

You're another waste. If this were a debate site you and dumbo would be long gone but for both you dummies it's a crapper.

you people don't win debates; you lie, evade, and censor.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Trump was ALWAYS going to lie about the election. It's what he does.

Everyone is like "2020 was different - it was all of the mail in." But, Trump also said that the 2016 election had "massive fraud" and that Dems cheated in that one, too.

Know why? Because he LOST THE POPULAR VOTE. That's it. It's not something that matters one iota in Presidential elections, but it bruised his very tender ego - so he had to lie about it.

Again: it's what he does.

and the vaccine stopped the spread!

 

[Sammy Jankis]

your lies will be held against you all by the father of the sky.

 

[evince]

Whether their beliefs are true or not, an increasing number, to now represent a majority of Americans, believe that elections are full of 'cheating.' Many think that election officials and others in government are ignoring claims of election fraud and even working actively to produce it.

It doesn't matter if this is true or not. The fact that a majority think and feel this way, should be a major alarm bell to politicians and government about elections. If people have no faith in the results, whether they are fair and accurate or the result of fraud and cheating, means the people have no faith in government. That is going to become a serious problem for our society.

Voters see ‘cheating’ everywhere, 54% expect it in 2024 election
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...msn&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=msn_feed

Because the republicans have been screaming about it now for a decade


Problem is

It’s been the republicans who have been doing the cheating

 

[evince]

Well democrats refuse to implement basic voting safeguards like voter ID

That solves no existing problem


Republican keep Americans from voting to win elections

 

[evince]

Of course I do. Nearly half of Democrats (and the Left) think there's cheating going on. On the non-Left / Democrat side of things its at 3 out of 4 and headed towards 100%.

That is a problem.

Imagine this scenario with the above. Biden faces somebody other than Trump. Polls have Biden--like he is now--with rock bottom favorability polling in the low 40's to mid 30's--and yet he somehow manages a narrow victory. You could easily have over 50% of the population not believing the results. Doesn't matter if they're accurate or full of fraud. The population at that point doesn't believe in the results, and that's what matters. They see the results as illegitimate, and the government that is being put in power the same way. That is a major problem.

Maybe we should let the majority win elections instead of the electoral college huh


Then republicans won’t get elected anymore

 

[evince]

You are missing the point. THAT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER! What matters here is that the population believes the election was fraudulent and all the attempts by government officials, the MSM, whoever saying they're wrong isn't going to change that. The population's perception, belief, is the election was rigged, fraudulent, and full of cheating.

It is important that the population believe in and can see that the election process was fair and accurate. The Democrats, and the Democrats alone, are driving this change in perception / belief towards people saying the elections are rigged and full of cheating. What is driving this?

Mail in balloting, particularly all mail in balloting
Ballot drop boxes
No voter ID
Ballot harvesting
Voting 'seasons' that last weeks
No ensuring voter rolls are accurate
Automatic voter registration

That's a sample of things that are causing people to question the election results, and it's getting worse not better.

Nope


Those are Republican lies backed by Fox News


Here’s how we fix it


Kill Fox News for lying

Kill the Republican Party for lying


End the electoral college


Kill gerrymandering

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Well, Pobre, why are you far left Democratic Socialist loons so afraid of voter photo ID?

How will photo ID prevent voter fraud? The idea that people vote pretending to be other people has not been shown to be true. Voter ID is not solving a problem. It is designed to create problems. Why is a conceal/carry permit an okay ID but not a student ID? Why aren't tribal ID's acceptable?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

I couldn't agree more but the actual reality, that means not inside your head, is that either a democrat or a republican is the overwhelmingly likely to be the winner in any election. So from a practical and reality based stand point there are only 2 options. As I stated one side seem to have no interest in me or people like me so it's clear they have cut me loose. That's fine but dont pretend you give a shit about unifying the country. When Brandon said it we all know it's a lie including you. But you STILL can't figure out why normal people dont trust the system.

Pretending they system doesn't work because your guy didn't win is just part of the "the big lie." Perhaps the problem is that the majority of the country doesn't agree with you.

 

[Yakuda]

How will photo ID prevent voter fraud? The idea that people vote pretending to be other people has not been shown to be true. Voter ID is not solving a problem. It is designed to create problems. Why is a conceal/carry permit an okay ID but not a student ID? Why aren't tribal ID's acceptable?

How do you know if it's not required that people prove who they are? A conceal carry ID is issued by the govt. Student IDs aren't and tribal IDs are not US govt issued. Nice try though