Obama Approval Rating Now Below 50%, Currently 48.8%

[Topspin]

He'll go down even further soon.
Where did he fuck up, the same place most limosine liberals do.
1. You hate Bush does not equal= give me all the opposite policies. Bush wasn't even following conservative policies.
2. the country want's fiscal conservative socially liberal policies and that's what Obama promised.
He campaigned on Bush spends to much, now he's spending exponentially more.
He will get re-elected IMO, based on him sandbagging the stimulus to kick in just in time.
Do I hope they wake up and throttle back the socialist spending, you betcha

 

[Mott the Hoople]

He'll go down even further soon.
Where did he fuck up, the same place most limosine liberals do.
1. You hate Bush does not equal= give me all the opposite policies. Bush wasn't even following conservative policies.
2. the country want's fiscal conservative socially liberal policies and that's what Obama promised.
He campaigned on Bush spends to much, now he's spending exponentially more.
He will get re-elected IMO, based on him sandbagging the stimulus to kick in just in time.
Do I hope they wake up and throttle back the socialist spending, you betcha

I disagree with you on point #4. A large chunk of the stimulus has gone into rebuilding infrastructure projects. Unfortunately those don't kick off over night just as that's how the nature of planning and budgeting works. We shouldn't expect to see significant impact from stimulus spending till this summer when infrastructure construction projects are in full swing.

 

[Topspin]

HAHAHAH BAHAHH, yeah cause there we not shovel ready projects.
BULLSHIT, Obama is a slick political operator and he's planning it to get reelected.
But keep sucking that obamanut.

 

[Topspin]

US House Approves $155 Billion Jobs Bill
Published: Wednesday, 16 Dec 2009 * 9:20 PM ET Text Size By: Reuters
The U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday narrowly approved a $155 billion measure that seeks to create jobs and blunt the impact of the worst recession since the 1930s.


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By a vote of 217 to 212, the House approved additional spending for "shovel-ready" construction projects and money to avoid layoffs of teachers, police and other public employees. No Republicans voted for the bill, and 38 Democrats voted against it.

The Senate is expected to consider the measure early next year.

Leftover money from the government's $700 billion bank-bailout fund would cover $75 billion of the bill's price tag.

President Barack Obama and his fellow Democrats hope to bring down the 10 percent unemployment rate before the November 2010 congressional elections. Though the recession has eased its grip, the economy is still shedding jobs and voter anxiety remains high.

The bill reprises many approaches taken in the $787 billion stimulus bill that Congress passed in February. Congressional budget analysts say that effort has created up to 1.6 million jobs and blunted the impact of the recession.

"We are on the road to recovery and we are there because this Congress made some very important and difficult decisions to take us there," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said.

Republicans, who deride the first stimulus bill as a costly boondoggle, said the newer effort would only drive the country deeper into debt.


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"This is nothing short of a taxpayer-funded Christmas shopping tree financed by our friends, the Chinese," said Representative Jerry Lewis, the top Republican on the House Appropriations Committee.

Money for Construction, Schools

The bill would provide $48.3 billion for infrastructure projects that promise to get workers back on job sites by April. Highway construction projects would get $27.5 billion, while subway, bus and other transit systems would get $8.4 billion.

As in the earlier stimulus bill, steel and other products used in these projects would have to come from the United States.

The bill would also help cash-strapped state and local governments avoid layoffs of public employees.

States would get $23 billion to pay 250,000 teacher salaries and repair school buildings, and $1.2 billion to pay for 5,500 police officers.

States would also get $23.5 billion to help pay their share of federal healthcare programs for the poor.

The bill does not include two approaches backed by the White House: increased lending for small business, and funds to make buildings more energy-efficient, but Democrats say they plan to take up additional job-creating measures next year.

The bill also extends unemployment benefits and healthcare subsidies for the jobless for another six months, at a combined cost of $53.3 billion.

Because the Senate is not expected to act until January, the House included a two-month extension of the jobless benefits in a must-pass military spending bill that could be signed into law as soon as this weekend to ensure they do not run out at the end of the year.

 

[Topspin]

Check the line where Obama admits the spending is targeted to get the unemployment down before the 2010 election. He wants to help democrats more than the American worker, he just proved it.

 

[belme1201]

Yeah, poor guy.... I guess he shouldn't have run for president if he wasn't up to the job, huh? Well, that's okay, we'll see if we can't remedy that in 2012... maybe get someone in there who is able to actually tackle the problems instead of whining about what was inherited.

As well qualified as gwb?

 

[belme1201]

You mean like Bush was? [/sarcasm]

Sorry, I didn't read your post before I posted my reply, it seemed so appropriate for the moment. I can't think of too many qualifications gwb had unless it's brush clearing. Bike riding, intelligence, and leadership have already been eliminated. Poor Dixie, however, does realize he has at least 2010,
2011, and 2012 to go.

 

[cawacko]

I disagree with you on point #4. A large chunk of the stimulus has gone into rebuilding infrastructure projects. Unfortunately those don't kick off over night just as that's how the nature of planning and budgeting works. We shouldn't expect to see significant impact from stimulus spending till this summer when infrastructure construction projects are in full swing.

A large chunk of the stimulus went into protecting public sector jobs which is what they are saying they are doing with this new stimulus money.

Many of us wish more stimulus money had gone into infrastructure projects.

 

[Topspin]

A large chunk of the stimulus went into protecting public sector jobs which is what they are saying they are doing with this new stimulus money.

Many of us wish more stimulus money had gone into infrastructure projects.

In other words, keeping hopelessly ineffiecient gov types in worthless jobs

 

[TuTu Monroe]

A large chunk of the stimulus went into protecting public sector jobs which is what they are saying they are doing with this new stimulus money.

Many of us wish more stimulus money had gone into infrastructure projects.

A federal auditing agency is reporting that less than one-quarter of the economic stimulus money allocated for spending by the states has been used--the majority of which went to cover increases in Medicaid. I vote no way for a second stimulus. It's insane.

 

[belme1201]

Check the line where Obama admits the spending is targeted to get the unemployment down before the 2010 election. He wants to help democrats more than the American worker, he just proved it.

Can you point out the line where it says that Obama said that or is it the conclusion of the AP writer? Even so, wouldn't it be nice to have turned around the unemployment problem within the next year? It's already beginning to slowly turn around, much to the dismay of some who pray for Obama's failure, placing politics, etc. ahead of the well-being of our country and jobless fellow countrymen.
It took 8 years for his predecessors to create it, 2 years ain't bad battling against the worst recession since the Great Depression. I, for one, hope he succeeds, just as I hoped, for 8 long years in vain, for his predecessors to succeed, even at ever-lowering parameters.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

A large chunk of the stimulus went into protecting public sector jobs which is what they are saying they are doing with this new stimulus money.

Many of us wish more stimulus money had gone into infrastructure projects.

They did. Hell the company I'm working for is leveraged to recieve a lot of that money when construction projects commence in the spring though I do agree that a larger percentage of the money should have gone to infrastucture project, the point is, that affect won't be immediate.

 

[Topspin]

Can you point out the line where it says that Obama said that or is it the conclusion of the AP writer? Even so, wouldn't it be nice to have turned around the unemployment problem within the next year? It's already beginning to slowly turn around, much to the dismay of some who pray for Obama's failure, placing politics, etc. ahead of the well-being of our country and jobless fellow countrymen.
It took 8 years for his predecessors to create it, 2 years ain't bad battling against the worst recession since the Great Depression. I, for one, hope he succeeds, just as I hoped, for 8 long years in vain, for his predecessors to succeed, even at ever-lowering parameters.

I think it was the AP writer saying it which I agree with. I'm not one of the ones hoping Obama fails, quit the contrary. I'm not religious but I'm praying he exceeds his wildest expectations on the economy. I personally don't think Bush had much blame nor will Obama deserve much credit, but I hope he gets it.
We have the best companies in the world, the best inventors, engineers, business people, best scientist. All that didn't change cause we got a democrat. And the stock market does slightly better under democrat Presidents.

 

[Damocles]

It's down about 5% since you said it was "dropping like a rock"...last spring...

Please. He's dropped more than any other President during the same period in their term since polling began.

 

[Damocles]

I want to hear from the 48.8% of the goofballs out there who think this clown is doing an acceptable job!

Just watch the Oprah interview.

 

[cawacko]

I think it was the AP writer saying it which I agree with. I'm not one of the ones hoping Obama fails, quit the contrary. I'm not religious but I'm praying he exceeds his wildest expectations on the economy. I personally don't think Bush had much blame nor will Obama deserve much credit, but I hope he gets it.
We have the best companies in the world, the best inventors, engineers, business people, best scientist. All that didn't change cause we got a democrat. And the stock market does slightly better under democrat Presidents.

That line right there is exactly it Top. Politicians need to put the structure in place that allows these people to flurish and then get the fuck out of the way. Nancy Pelosi or any other politician trying to claim they are creating all these jobs. No bitch you're not. It's the people Top pointed out who are.

Buffet and Gates gave a recent talk at Columbia Business School recently which was awesome. They talked about the economy but it wasn't broken up into these four or eight year partisan periods it was about how America has the set up to recover and how it will recover. Buffett is known to lean left politically but he wasn't up there saying its the government that's going to create the recovery and move America forward. Fucking politicians.

 

[Topspin]

That line right there is exactly it Top. Politicians need to put the structure in place that allows these people to flurish and then get the fuck out of the way. Nancy Pelosi or any other politician trying to claim they are creating all these jobs. No bitch you're not. It's the people Top pointed out who are.

Buffet and Gates gave a recent talk at Columbia Business School recently which was awesome. They talked about the economy but it wasn't broken up into these four or eight year partisan periods it was about how America has the set up to recover and how it will recover. Buffett is known to lean left politically but he wasn't up there saying its the government that's going to create the recovery and move America forward. Fucking politicians.

I saw the show to, obviously they are both big on our economy. I am too.
What Pelosi and company need to watch is they villanize any industry that makes huge profits, oil=evil, insurance=evil, auto=evil, banks=evil.
Who have they not attacked?

 

[Taichiliberal]

He'll go down even further soon.
Where did he fuck up, the same place most limosine liberals do.
1. You hate Bush does not equal= give me all the opposite policies. Bush wasn't even following conservative policies.
2. the country want's fiscal conservative socially liberal policies and that's what Obama promised.
He campaigned on Bush spends to much, now he's spending exponentially more.
He will get re-elected IMO, based on him sandbagging the stimulus to kick in just in time.
Do I hope they wake up and throttle back the socialist spending, you betcha

Here's where I agree: Obama gave out promises without truly getting the lay of the political land...ie: bluedog & Dixie democrats coupled with the truly fantastic economic/social policy defecation the Shrub & company left.

As for spending: Note that in addition to the phenominal military budget (which was the emphasis of the Shrub's reign), the budgets are also aimed at LONG neglected social programs....although I for one want some serious detail to infrastructure, which various states desperately need.


I don't see "sandbagging" the stimulus on his part...I attribute that to the likes of Joe Lieberman.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Dixie
I want to hear from the 48.8% of the goofballs out there who think this clown is doing an acceptable job!

Just watch the Oprah interview.

Here's what I find interesting: Obama's based support is pissed at him because he's too busy bending over backwards to be "inclusive" and not anywhere near the "my way or the highway" mentality of the Shrub's reign. So logically, the neocons should all be happy as clams in beer because essentially he's carrying on many the Shrub's precedents in one form or another.

And yet, the neocons are STILL wailing like stuck pigs if Obama so much as sneezes.

Also, are the progressives, liberals, Dems, whatever, are NOT pointing fingers at their congressional and senatorial reps and raising hell and threatening to replace them with someone better. Instead, they answer polls that they're going to sit out the next round of elections.

Third party anyone?

 

[Taichiliberal]

I saw the show to, obviously they are both big on our economy. I am too.
What Pelosi and company need to watch is they villanize any industry that makes huge profits, oil=evil, insurance=evil, auto=evil, banks=evil.
Who have they not attacked?

The question should be, how accurate are their "attacks". I am sick and tired of this "private enterprise vs. federal gov't" bullshit. Bottom line: we've seen the results of an unchecked private sector and a executive branch centralized gov't.

But instead of seeking the balance, everyone digs in their ideological heels. No wonder nothing gets better.