Trump “very upset” that Jared Kushner is cooperating as Jack Smith pierces his inner

[Guno צְבִי]

Prosecutors in special counsel Jack Smith's investigation into former President Donald Trump's attempts to subvert the 2020 election results have in recent weeks asked Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, among other witnesses, about whether the 2024 Republican frontrunner had privately acknowledged that he had lost the election, four sources briefed on the matter told the New York Times.

Kushner testified before the Washington grand jury in the case last month, where a source briefed on the matter said he maintained it was his understanding that Trump truly believed the election had been stolen from him.


"The questioning of Mr. Kushner shows that the federal investigation being led by the special counsel Jack Smith continues to pierce the layers closest to Mr. Trump as prosecutors weigh whether to bring charges against the former president in connection with the efforts to promote baseless assertions of widespread voter fraud and block or delay congressional certification of Joseph R. Biden Jr.'s Electoral College victory," the Times reported.


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-very-upset-jared-kushner-165248838.html

 

[Nordberg]

Many people told Trump to his face that he lost. He knew it in fact, but Trump does have the power of self-delusion.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Trump had a legal right to file lawsuits questioning the election.

It doesn't matter what he believed.

This line of questioning tells us that Smith is getting desperate to find something on Trump or he wouldn't even bother with it.

Looks like democrats lose again.

Better get your next charges ready.

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

Trump had a legal right to file lawsuits questioning the election.

Nobody is denying that Trump had a legal right to file as many lawsuits as he and his dumb cult followers could afford.

Trying to subvert the count in states such as Georgia, and coerce the Vice President to block congressional ratification of the result, is a different matter. No losing candidate has a right to do that, even if he thinks he's a genius.


Take the 1960 election, which Nixon lost narrowly to Kennedy. Many people thought that was the end of him. Nevertheless, as Vice President, Nixon chaired the session of Congress that ratified the result. Do you think Trump would have done that? Why did Nixon do it?

 

[Cypress]

Trump had a legal right to file lawsuits questioning the election.

It doesn't matter what he believed.

That's hilarious that you now confess you and Trump were duped by utterly preposterous Kraken lies.

This line of questioning tells us that Smith is getting desperate to find something on Trump or he wouldn't even bother with it.

Looks like democrats lose again.

Better get your next charges ready.

Jack Smith is not investigating the frivolous court cases Trump wasted time on.

He is investigating the conspiracy to subvert the electoral college.

 

[Jarod]

Prosecutors in special counsel Jack Smith's investigation into former President Donald Trump's attempts to subvert the 2020 election results have in recent weeks asked Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, among other witnesses, about whether the 2024 Republican frontrunner had privately acknowledged that he had lost the election, four sources briefed on the matter told the New York Times.

Kushner testified before the Washington grand jury in the case last month, where a source briefed on the matter said he maintained it was his understanding that Trump truly believed the election had been stolen from him.


"The questioning of Mr. Kushner shows that the federal investigation being led by the special counsel Jack Smith continues to pierce the layers closest to Mr. Trump as prosecutors weigh whether to bring charges against the former president in connection with the efforts to promote baseless assertions of widespread voter fraud and block or delay congressional certification of Joseph R. Biden Jr.'s Electoral College victory," the Times reported.


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-very-upset-jared-kushner-165248838.html

It sounds like Kushner might be facing perjury charges.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Trump had a legal right to file lawsuits questioning the election.

It doesn't matter what he believed.

This line of questioning tells us that Smith is getting desperate to find something on Trump or he wouldn't even bother with it.

Looks like democrats lose again.

Better get your next charges ready.

No, dear loser troll, it does not. It tells us that they are considering intent, a necessary component when seeking higher charges for a crime.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

It sounds like Kushner might be facing perjury charges.

Can you explain?

 

[floridafan]

Trump had a legal right to file lawsuits questioning the election.

It doesn't matter what he believed.

This line of questioning tells us that Smith is getting desperate to find something on Trump or he wouldn't even bother with it.

Looks like democrats lose again.

Better get your next charges ready.

He doesn't have a legal right to pick up a phone and tell a SOS how many votes he needs to find.
That particular crime will be indicted very soon, and its expected to be a doozey with any number of trump cronies also indicted.

 

[martin]

Unless Trump thinks his son-in-law, who worked for and closely with him in the WH, is fabricating what could he be angry about?

 

[Nordberg]

Trump had a legal right to file lawsuits questioning the election.

It doesn't matter what he believed.

This line of questioning tells us that Smith is getting desperate to find something on Trump or he wouldn't even bother with it.

Looks like democrats lose again.

Better get your next charges ready.

He had 60 plus suits trying to prove the election was stolen. The judges tossed them out because Trump's lawyers had no evidence to back their cases, After a while, they were being thrown out and the lawyers reprimanded for frivolous suits. Trump and the reds lost every one of them. That is losing. Trump is a bigly loser.

 

[martin]

He had 60 plus suits trying to prove the election was stolen. The judges tossed them out because Trump's lawyers had no evidence to back their cases, After a while, they were being thrown out and the lawyers reprimanded for frivolous suits. Trump and the reds lost every one of them. That is losing. Trump is a bigly loser.

....and there was Kari Lake in a video yesterday saying to the nodding deniers around her "....and we have the evidence."

 

[Jarod]

Can you explain?

It appears he told investigators that Trump believed he had won, but there are plenty of conversations where they know Trump admitted he lost… perjury.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

It appears he told investigators that Trump believed he had won, but there are plenty of conversations where they know Trump admitted he lost… perjury.

Aha! Good, very good.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Nobody is denying that Trump had a legal right to file as many lawsuits as he and his dumb cult followers could afford.

Trying to subvert the count in states such as Georgia, and coerce the Vice President to block congressional ratification of the result, is a different matter. No losing candidate has a right to do that, even if he thinks he's a genius.


Take the 1960 election, which Nixon lost narrowly to Kennedy. Many people thought that was the end of him. Nevertheless, as Vice President, Nixon chaired the session of Congress that ratified the result. Do you think Trump would have done that? Why did Nixon do it?

Well you should file charges then.

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

Well you should file charges then.

I don't file charges, Peach, but charges are coming. They are likely to hinge on the question of whether Trump had a legal right to instruct the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" enough votes for Trump to win the state.

What do you think would happen to American democracy if a defending president had that right? Or like some of your colleagues, do you assert that the US is a republic but not a democracy? Or don't you care as long as your hero wins?

 

[Tinkerpeach]

I don't file charges, Peach, but charges are coming. They are likely to hinge on the question of whether Trump had a legal right to instruct the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" enough votes for Trump to win the state.

What do you think would happen to American democracy if a defending president had that right? Or like some of your colleagues, do you assert that the US is a republic but not a democracy? Or don't you care as long as your hero wins?

What were his actual words in context?

 

[Lightbringer]

Nobody is denying that Trump had a legal right to file as many lawsuits as he and his dumb cult followers could afford.

Trying to subvert the count in states such as Georgia, and coerce the Vice President to block congressional ratification of the result, is a different matter. No losing candidate has a right to do that, even if he thinks he's a genius.


Take the 1960 election, which Nixon lost narrowly to Kennedy. Many people thought that was the end of him. Nevertheless, as Vice President, Nixon chaired the session of Congress that ratified the result. Do you think Trump would have done that? Why did Nixon do it?

Nixon did it for political reasons. You're not really suggesting that Nixon thought he didn't get screwed are you?

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

What were his actual words in context?

TRUMP to RAFFENSPERGER:
You know what they did and you’re not reporting it. That’s a criminal - that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that’s a big risk ... And you can’t let it happen and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I’m notifying you that you’re letting it happen. So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/03/...affensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html


For Raffensperger’s considered reaction, see:
https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...ions-georgia-2b27f4c92919556bf6548117648693b7

 

[Lightbringer]

TRUMP to RAFFENSPERGER:
You know what they did and you’re not reporting it. That’s a criminal - that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that’s a big risk ... And you can’t let it happen and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I’m notifying you that you’re letting it happen. So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/03/...affensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html


For Raffensperger’s considered reaction, see:
https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...ions-georgia-2b27f4c92919556bf6548117648693b7

It looks to me like Trump was saying Georgia committed a crime. but but but...dEmOcRaCy.