You're so friggin' brain-dead, tinfoil....
Scrap the Senate Health Bill
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You're so friggin' brain-dead, tinfoil....
what a retard.
NO. Can you understand this? NO. NO NO NO
We don't want another corrupt layer of useless government.
Now go find the rest of the idiots in your party still behind this mess and give yourselves a big group hug. You tried!!
Puhlease. You can't keep up. We've been picking this crap apart for weeks and dean makes every fucking point I've made over the last month.
LOL You guys are fucking idiots
First you decry all insurance companies as evil-mongers
then you fucking retards ensure they get 40 million new customers under threat of finacial penalties and even prison.
Even Olberman said he'd go to prison. LOL
You, sir, are an idiot
The TEA influence is what made it finally unpalatable even to Dean. You really can't see past the surface of anything anymore can you?
When was the last time the right took to the streets, took their protest to town hall meetings, drove anything at all from the street?
Yes, the people who have done that previously had the effect for the reason you list, but there was a different group out there and for once acting and speaking out made a difference.
'kay. I'll mark you & tinny down as heaping praise on the biggest group of right-wing hacks going right now...
You do that so you can fit everybody into the little boxes that make you brain feel better.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
wait. are you seriously trying to claim that all TEA activists are right wing hacks?
Nah. I do it because most of the people in the TEA movement are right-wingers, and used deception more than fact.
Do you want a list of some of the lies & misconceptions spread by this group? Like I said, there were good reasons to oppose this bill. They used a few of those, too.
The fact that you are singing the praises of a group like this is actually kind of astounding to me. As much as I say "yer a hack," I have known you to be objective about stuff like this in the past. Like I said - it's the right's Code Pink.
cawacko
Well-known member
There is obviously a difference between what those on the right and Dean want in the health care bill. Dean is obviously coming from the left saying if it doesn't have what's most important to progressives in it then its not worth passing the legislation.
But I don't get the argument that the tea party people had zero effect. If tea party folk were only on the far right moderate Democrats would just blow them off. But moderate Democrats (in the Senate especially) have had concerns and it's had an influence in what way they steered the legislation.
But I don't get the argument that the tea party people had zero effect. If tea party folk were only on the far right moderate Democrats would just blow them off. But moderate Democrats (in the Senate especially) have had concerns and it's had an influence in what way they steered the legislation.
TuTu Monroe
A Realist
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been that way a long time
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watermark has run away from any actual debate....he is now a hit and run hack
Yes. He is trying to claim exactly that.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Howard Dean: Scrap the Senate Health Bill
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/15/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5983608.shtml
I concur, try again after the mid term elections next year! In the meantime concentrate on the economy! A healthcare bill without the public option and the medicare option is a waste of time and money! This bill is so watered down, nothing will change!
I was listening to Dean on Air America yesterday. He said that while the House bill leaves a LOT to be desired, the Senate bill is just a capitulation to the insurance companies...period. I have to agree.
Well, it appears right now the stripped down bill that is basically just chock full of cost increases and pork to buy off votes (of course we can't tell because nobody at all has read this thing after the changes) will be passed soon and we'll be the proud owners of the crappiest health "reform" in the first world.
Shouldn't we give the TEA folks credit for that?
Owwwwie Damo!
Looks like you got hit with the Damo Daddy Humiliation Hammer!
Would this be like reverse zingernation or something??
:lmao:
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
1. - If the bill is crappy, we have no one to blame but the tea baggers, the insurance lobbiest and the Dem/GOP politicos in the insurance companies pockets.
2. - The versions of the bill(s) has been on the net for sometime.....whether people have the time to read it is something else.
3. - "basically just chock full of cost increases and pork to buy off votes"...generic accusations that can be leveled at any proposed bill. Proving the accusations is another matter.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
lol....it can be leveled at any proposed bill because they ALL include pork......
Right. You need to read the posts of your "allies"...
And Taichi.... That is idiotic (not you, but the idea that you can't blame the idiots who create something for what they created). We have the people who vote for crap to blame for crap.
Just like TARP and total control with the SEC chair was crap, this too is crap with no effective cost control. It even allows companies to put a cap on spending for diseases (cancer) that have high costs. People will still go bankrupt trying to pay for care... we'll pay more and have the same issues....