Federal judge rules Oregon’s tough new gun law is constitutional

[Into the Night]

You concentrate on the amendments and on the stipulated rights, Earl.

The primary function of the constitution was to create, in the actual Articles,

a new form of government for a new nation--that's what was being "constituted"--

and in that regard,

it was a monumental failure

having created the most inefficient form of government that has EVER existed on the surface of our planet.

Our form of government is SO bad

that it gives illiterate Middle American savages like yourself

more power per unit of population

than it does to the Coastal Elite who actually know what the fuck that they're doing.

This is obvious fact, not opinion, but it takes a modicum of intelligence to recognize as such.

Did you even try to get into an Eastern school?

It is DESIGNED to be inefficient.
The reasons it was designed that way is laid out in the Constitution itself and in the Declaration of Independence. Both documents that you despise.

 

[Into the Night]

Engaging in discourse with you, Earl, would make me appear to be brilliant,
even were I semi-comatose.

Thanks.

LIF. Grow up.

 

[Into the Night]

No, it would take all the states to enact similar laws and then about 20-30 yrs time. People were making your stupid comment 40 yrs ago and if this happenned then it most certainly would be making a difference by now.

If you think the States are going to willingly give up their sovereignty, you've got another think coming.

 

[Into the Night]

If you are in the military you can have a machine gun and a howitzer too but as a citizen you can't have them.

YES YOU CAN, dumbass.

the 2nd amendment right to bear arms does not include ALL arms.

YES IT DOES, dumbass. There is no 'list of exceptions'.

You can't have nuclear weapons either.

YES YOU CAN, dumbass. There is no 'list of exceptions'.

 

[Into the Night]

Would a civilian not heavily involved in organized crime have a very practical use for a machine gun?

Yes.

One can take down a home invader with a deer rifle pretty easily,

You want to ban those too.

and doing far less damage to one's walls and furniture.

Irrelevant, and home invaders might not yet be inside the home, but on the property...or a town might be threatened by a mob or foreign invader.

Your insurance company would be less likely to give you a hard time.

It's not about insurance. Apparently you have no idea how easy it is to patch a wall.

The real question is,

are our 2nd Amendment nuts genuinely psychotic
or are they just seeking attention with outlandish statements?

Mantra 1d. Calling most of the people of this nation 'psychotic' is not going to work.

 

[Into the Night]

True. Not to someone lacking the intelligence to do anything with it.
I'm not sure, STY,
that you would know what to do with a grain of salt, either.

LIF. Grow up.

 

[Into the Night]

There's nothing that can be done to change America's relationship with guns!
America is a gun junkie and nothing can change that!

So?

 

[Into the Night]

I believe that you're absolutely right.

If only we could limit it, though, to appropriate guns and not military armament.
That's my view.

Unconstitutional.

 

[Into the Night]

Our only option is to duck when bullets start flying, which literally could happen most anywhere!

WRONG. Shoot back.

 

[Into the Night]

We grow up that way in the city.

So shoot back.

 

[Into the Night]

Wrong too. People commit crimes not tools. A firearm is a tool. Then there's technology... You can 3D print a magazine for a gun today at home. If you don't plan on using it for years, it doesn't even have to be very reusable. So, limiting magazines to 10 rounds or less is simply asinine. It assumes people are too stupid to just go around that if they want.

If you are so inclined, a small mill and a lathe are all you need to make your own firearm from scratch.

We need to focus on the people doing these crimes and figure the fuck out how to get them where they can't or won't do them, not on taking away their 'toys.'

Making ammunition for it is just as easy.

 

[Into the Night]

The Confederacy was in violation of British Law - and the Brits reacted by sending troops to disarm the public. Very much like the democrats today. Where we as Americans fail is in that democrats are not dealt with in the same way the British were dealt with at that time.

A classic statement from the generation of instant anything.

American patriots are slow to go to war, but when they do, WATCH OUT!
Civil war is coming. There is no stopping it now. It's only a matter of time. These Marxist fucks have no idea the danger they are in.

 

[Into the Night]

Tell that to the colonists in Lexington, VA.

Tyranny depends on a disarmed, subservient populace. The British knew this well.

Lexington was a small town at the time. The British thought it would be a pushover because of that. How wrong they were!
You must understand that martin never learned history, or why events in Boston, Philadelphia, and New York are part of the same war.

 

[Into the Night]

Everyone on every side knows this law is patently unconstitutional. That an Obama judge upheld it just shows the contempt the left has for the Constitution. The appeal will very likely see it thrown out - even the 9th won't support such a blatant attack on Constitutional law.

You give the 9th credit it doesn't deserve!

 

[Uncensored2008]

Our only option is to duck when bullets start flying, which literally could happen most anywhere!

I know, I tripped over nearly a dozen dead bodies walking my dog today.

I mean, you Nazis would never engage in moronic hyperbole to further the agenda of disarming your victims...

 

[Into the Night]

In the vernacular of the 18th century, "Arms" were man carriable. One cannot "bear" a nuclear weapon. This is just a strawman advocates of tyranny - the Marxist/fascist democrats - employ in their quest to disarm their intended victims.

Redefinition fallacy (bear<->carry).

You can certainly bear a nuclear weapon. The meaning of these words has NOT changed since the 18th century!
You can bear a cannon, a trebuche, or any other large weapon.

To bear a weapon means to aim and prepare to use it. It means to bring the weapon to bear upon your intended target.

NOTHING in the 2nd amendment specifies that a weapon must have the capability to carry it.

NO weapon is listed in the 2nd amendment at all. That means it applies to ALL weapons, regardless of their size or your ability to carry it.

You can own and bear a gun (including a machine gun, and including a semi-automatic rifle like the AR15 and all of it's accessories).
You can own and bear a cannon (yes, including the powder and cannonballs).
You can own and bear a bomb (yes, and make them, including any fusing method for it).
You can own and bear a nuclear bomb (yes, including the uranium to make it and the powder to set it off).
You can own and bear a bow and arrow (yes, including all accessories for it).

You are responsible for any weapon, both for it's storage and it's use.

If you go out and commit murder with one, you are guilty of murder. There are laws against most types of murder (not all!).
If you go out and defend yourself, your family, your property, your community, or your town with one, that is self defense, and not murder. THAT RIGHT IS INHERENT. The Constitution protects this right, but does not grant it.

These Marxist fucks want to start a civil war. They will eventually get what they want. They are attacking the patriots of this nation, that still uphold the Constitution. American patriots are slow to go to war, but these Marxists had better watch out when they do! They WILL stand up to defend their homes and towns, and they WILL stand up to defend the Constitution these Marxists despise and discard!

 

[Into the Night]

I know, I tripped over nearly a dozen dead bodies walking my dog today.

I mean, you Nazis would never engage in moronic hyperbole to further the agenda of disarming your victims...

Are you sure they were dead? They may be just homeless converted into living zombies by drugs.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Making ammunition for it is just as easy.

If you have the brass, the dies, and the primers.

 

[Damocles]

What does?

A lower court ruling is where such things begin.

 

[Damocles]

That is already decided, by the Constitution.

Since the current court has 5 Constitutionalists to the 3 Marxists and that idiot Roberts, I suspect the Constitution will prevail in the case.

It is not "already decided". If it were then this law would not be supported by this judge. Even you understand it by stating the Constitution will prevail. I agree, I think the SCOTUS will decide to hear this case because of this ruling.