Elite College Admissions Data Suggests Being Very Rich Is Its Own Qualification

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Elite colleges have long been filled with the children of the richest families: At Ivy League schools, one in six students has parents in the top 1 percent.

A large new study, released Monday, shows that it has not been because these children had more impressive grades on average or took harder classes. They tended to have higher SAT scores and finely honed résumés, and applied at a higher rate — but they were overrepresented even after accounting for those things. For applicants with the same SAT or ACT score, children from families in the top 1 percent were 34 percent more likely to be admitted than the average applicant, and those from the top 0.1 percent were more than twice as likely to get in.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/24/upshot/ivy-league-elite-college-admissions.html
 
BidenPresident said:
Elite colleges have long been filled with the children of the richest families: At Ivy League schools, one in six students has parents in the top 1 percent.

A large new study, released Monday, shows that it has not been because these children had more impressive grades on average or took harder classes. They tended to have higher SAT scores and finely honed résumés, and applied at a higher rate — but they were overrepresented even after accounting for those things. For applicants with the same SAT or ACT score, children from families in the top 1 percent were 34 percent more likely to be admitted than the average applicant, and those from the top 0.1 percent were more than twice as likely to get in.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/24/upshot/ivy-league-elite-college-admissions.html
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Why does that surprise you? The very wealthy usually go to incredibly expensive private schools... do you know how much it costs to go to Sidwell for 12 years?;) if you're paying that much to send your child K-12 they better get a superior education right?https://www.sidwell.edu/admissions/affording-sfs
 
TOP said:
Why does that surprise you? The very wealthy usually go to incredibly expensive private schools... do you know how much it cost to go to Sidwell for 12 years?;) if you're paying that much to send your child K-12 they better get a superior education right?
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I did not say I was surprised, you stupid troll.
 
"The study showed — for the first time at this scale — that legacies were more qualified overall than the average applicant."
 
Flash said:
"The study showed — for the first time at this scale — that legacies were more qualified overall than the average applicant."
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The new data shows that among students with the same test scores, the colleges gave preference to the children of alumni and to recruited athletes, and gave children from private schools higher nonacademic ratings. The result is the clearest picture yet of how America’s elite colleges perpetuate the intergenerational transfer of wealth and opportunity.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/24/upshot/ivy-league-elite-college-admissions.html
 
Flash said:
"The study showed — for the first time at this scale — that legacies were more qualified overall than the average applicant."
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Leadership positions in the United States are held disproportionately by graduates of highly selective private
colleges. Less than half of one percent of Americans attend Ivy-Plus colleges (the eight Ivy League colleges,
Chicago, Duke, MIT, and Stanford). Yet these twelve colleges account for more than 10% of Fortune 500
CEOs, a quarter of U.S. Senators, half of all Rhodes scholars, and three-fourths of Supreme Court justices
appointed in the last half-century.
Ivy-Plus colleges also enroll a disproportionate share of
students from high income families: students from families in the top 1% of the income distribution are more
than twice as likely to attend an Ivy-Plus college than students with comparable SAT or ACT scores from
the middle class.

https://opportunityinsights.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/CollegeAdmissions_Paper.pdf
 
TOP said:
Why does that surprise you? The very wealthy usually go to incredibly expensive private schools... do you know how much it costs to go to Sidwell for 12 years?;) if you're paying that much to send your child K-12 they better get a superior education right?https://www.sidwell.edu/admissions/affording-sfs
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I worked with an engineer who graduate from Yale. He said it was the same curriculum as any other good school. it was just harder to get in. He was afforded more respect and more opportunity in GM.
 
Nordberg said:
I worked with an engineer who graduate from Yale. He said it was the same curriculum as any other good school. it was just harder to get in. He was afforded more respect and more that's in GM.
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Afforded more respect then who? Most good schools are going to have similar curriculum... and some are going to be more difficult to get in than others... did he tell you how he was accepted to Yale?
 
BidenPresident said:
Elite colleges have long been filled with the children of the richest families: At Ivy League schools, one in six students has parents in the top 1 percent.
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That's why they're elite colleges.

The answer isn't to get into their faces about their own business and ways of doing things.

The answer is to make excellent public education accessible
to all who put in the prep work to merit the opportunity.

People who couldn't bother to learn how to speak a grammatically correct declarative sentence while in K-12
aren't going to do well in any college but still need other valid forms of vocational training.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
That's why they're elite colleges.

The answer isn't to get into their faces about their own business and ways of doing things.

The answer is to make excellent public education accessible
to all who put in the prep work to merit the opportunity.

People who couldn't bother to learn how to speak a grammatically correct declarative sentence while in K-12
aren't going to do well in any college but still need other valid forms of vocational training.
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Blowback from the right wing going after affirmative action.
 
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