PEOPLE WHO PURCHASE GAS-POWERED CARS: ‘SORT OF LIKE BUILDING A HORSE BARN IN 1910’

[Joe Capitalist]

Still living in the past my dear, afraid of change!

Electric Vehicles are better than gas cars in so many ways and car buyers are starting to appreciate the difference.
Lower maintenance. Cheaper to run. Better performance.

Yagina will be purchasing an EV soon. Very soon.

EVs Offer Big Savings Over Traditional Gas-Powered Cars
A CR study shows that total ownership cost savings can more than make up for an electric vehicle's typically higher purchase price

When it comes to buying an electric vehicle, many consumers might like the idea, but they sometimes balk at the purchase price, which is typically higher than that of an equivalent gasoline-powered vehicle. However, new research from Consumer Reports shows that when total ownership cost is considered—including such factors as purchase price, fueling costs, and maintenance expenses—EVs come out ahead, especially in more affordable segments. (Download a PDF of the fact sheet and the complete report.)

The savings advantage can be compelling in the first few years and continues to improve the longer you own the EV. Our study shows that fuel savings alone can be $4,700 or more over the first seven years.

When comparing vehicles of similar size and from the same segment, an EV can cost anywhere from 10 percent to over 40 percent more than a similar gasoline-only model, according to CR's analysis. The typical total ownership savings over the life of most EVs ranges from $6,000 to $10,000, CR found.

 

[Yakuda]

Still living in the past my dear, afraid of change!

I even said in 10 years which by definition means I'm not living in the last you ignorant dried up whore.

Why don't you move into a windmill you stupid piece of shit?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Or, the Left having forced EV's on the public finds that as they increased in number that there would never be enough infrastructure to support them. The public reacted to their plan with increasingly negative resolve and the Left soon found themselves voted out of office. The result of that was most of their EV laws, rules, and regulations were overturned or dumped.

Worse, the car manufacturers now had a working fuel cell vehicle that was non-polluting and cheaper to make than EV's turned out to be. By 2040, the Left had nothing remaining to push in terms of EV's and all they could do was lament how the public didn't understand what they wanted to do. A few years later the Left and their allies in the media had dropped the whole EV thing as if it never happened...

That is far more likely to be the case.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Still living in the past my dear, afraid of change!

Change for the sake of change, along with its more virulent and dangerous cousin, change forced on everyone by a minority or government, more often than not results in expensive failure. The chances of that happening increase the faster and harder the push is to make that change.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Yeah that poster isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Remember leftists view the world through the filters of skin color, party affiliation and genitalia. Thats all they need to know about you to know what you like, how you think and how you behave.

You left out the Left's biggest idea: That material, measurable, 'stuff' is how you determine equality... The Left wants everyone to be equally poor, miserable, and pigeonholed.

 

[QP!]

Is it your contention that ONLY 'MAGA' people are in to gas powered vehicles?

Yeah that poster isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Remember leftists view the world through the filters of skin color, party affiliation and genitalia. Thats all they need to know about you to know what you like, how you think and how you behave.

no.

But it is only Maga who cry and whine and bitch about any and all advancements.

 

[QP!]

Change for the sake of change, along with its more virulent and dangerous cousin, change forced on everyone by a minority or government, more often than not results in expensive failure. The chances of that happening increase the faster and harder the push is to make that change.

Yes. Yes Terry we all know the same arguments you made in the past and just keep recycling for EV's, Green Energy, and anything new, technology wise.

Get A Horse! America’s Skepticism Toward the First Automobiles
The inventor who claimed the first U.S. car ever sold recalls the birth of the industry and the general public skepticism about automobiles.

 

[Yakuda]

You left out the Left's biggest idea: That material, measurable, 'stuff' is how you determine equality... The Left wants everyone to be equally poor, miserable, and pigeonholed.

Except if you're a leader of the left. I wonder how many lines stalin stood in to get toilet paper?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Yes. Yes Terry we all know the same arguments you made in the past and just keep recycling for EV's, Green Energy, and anything new, technology wise.

The EV is a non-necessity. It doesn't do anything particularly better than an ICE vehicle does. What increase in useful performance does the EV bring to the table? Does it carry more passengers than similar ICE vehicles do? Is it significantly more affordable to buy? Can it tow like an ICE vehicle can?

Essentially, the only thing the EV brings to the table is it doesn't create air pollution when driven. If that doesn't matter or appeal to you, the EV has nothing to sell itself on.

With horses v. cars on the other hand, there were obvious and clear advantages to the ICE vehicle over a horse. People could see that, and pointing out the few naysayers won't change that. Nobody had to be forced to buy an ICE vehicle, the choice over a horse was obvious.

How Long Did It Take The Automobile To Replace The Horse And Buggy?

In one decade, cars replaced horses (and bicycles) as the standard form of transport for people and goods in the United States. In 1907 there were 140,300 cars registered in the U.S. and a paltry 2,900 trucks.
https://great-american-adventures.c...he-automobile-to-replace-the-horse-and-buggy/

It didn't take government intervention and banning horses to get people to recognize the advantages of ICE vehicles. It has taken government intervention and banning of ICE vehicles to get people to go to EV's.

If you don't buy the Left's Gorebal Warming narrative and think the air is clean enough, then there isn't any reason whatsoever to choose an EV over an ICE vehicle.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Except if you're a leader of the left. I wonder how many lines stalin stood in to get toilet paper?

Well, that goes with their myopia. Rules for thee but not for me...

 

[Yakuda]

Well, that goes with their myopia. Rules for thee but not for me...

Those leaders rely on the stupidity of their followers

 

[Into the Night]

PEOPLE WHO PURCHASE GAS-POWERED CARS: ‘SORT OF LIKE BUILDING A HORSE BARN IN 1910’

A car is not a barn. People still build barns today, Commie.

https://apple.news/AJEBFK1xYRkqFj-Us9kwNoQ

Cut and pasting again. Not even your own argument.

The CEO of the fast-growing electric vehicle company Rivian Automotive

They're not not doing very well. Ford lost a ton of money on them.

has shared some strong statements about purchasing a car with an internal-combustion engine (ICE).

Meh.

In conversation with Robinson Meyer of Heatmap, Rivian CEO R.J. Scaringe suggested that those buying an ICE vehicle would be ignoring the progress being made in the EV space and would soon experience regret for their decision.*

Reversal fallacy. People buying EVs sometimes regret them and return to gasoline vehicles. Remember the recent article of the guy that gave up on his F150 Lightning and returned to gasoline vehicles?

“I think the reality of buying a combustion-powered vehicle … is sort of like building a horse barn in 1910,” he said. “Imagine buying a Chevy Suburban in 2030 … what are you going to do with that … in 10 years?”
“Gas stations will be slowly disappearing,” he added. “It’s just weird.”

Gas stations aren't going anywhere.

With shifts in consumer attitudes, positive policy decisions regarding EVs worldwide, and improved drivability, Scaringe told Heatmap that the increased interest and uptake in EVs is “awesome to see.”*

The only 'shift in consumer attitude' are the mandates and subsidies. Fascism and communism.

“If you’d told me just a few years ago,” Scaringe went on, “that Europe would be committing to 100% of new vehicles being electric … that California would be making that commitment in the same way, that the United States, through EPA regulations, is going to be 60% EV of new sales by 2030, I don’t think I would have believed it.”

So he is advocating fascism and communism, just like you do.

 

[Into the Night]

Your EV will be a planter in 10 years.

...or maybe a firework.

 

[Into the Night]

ALL-ELECTRIC TESLA SEMI GO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH A DIESEL 18-WHEELER: ‘IT’S GOT TREMENDOUS POWER’

Medium- and heavy-duty trucks in the United States send nearly 920 billion pounds of pollution into the atmosphere.
by Leo Collis*/*August 28, 2023

https://apple.news/AoOWsd2g8RbeJbO7dzBFmaw

Scalable, sustainable trucking is one of the final frontiers for cleaner road travel, and a new video has demonstrated just how game-changing Tesla’s electric Semi could be.
In a video captured by Zanegler and posted to X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, a Tesla Semi is seen passing a similar-sized diesel truck with ease on the Donner Pass.*
The X user noted that the trailer is carrying “a significant weight,” which makes the performance even more impressive as it tackles the road’s incline.*
According to Tesla, the Semi is capable of reaching 60 miles per hour from standing in just 20 seconds, while the estimated range on a full charge can be up to 500 miles. It reportedly consumes under 2 kilowatt hours of electricity per mile and can recover up to 70% of charge in just 30 minutes at appropriate charging stations.*
Per Ian Tiseo of Statista, medium- and heavy-duty trucks in the United States send nearly 920 billion pounds (417 metric tons) of pollution into the atmosphere. Compared to similar levels from 1990, this marks an increase of around 78%.

TANSTAAFL. Trucks aren't going to sacrifice payload capacity to carry batteries, dummy.
CO2 is not pollution. CO2 has no capability to warm the Earth.

 

[Into the Night]

A very expensive planter...

It's an expensive firework too.

 

[Into the Night]

I assume you mean, as most of us use the the word "gas" to casually reference it, gasoline, right?
Not propane or anything like that, I'll assume.

Building a horse barn in 1910 is a fairly good analogy, I think,
because while 1910 was admittedly late for horse barn building,
it still wasn't completely unreasonable to build a horse barn in 1910.

2023 is probably just a little bit late to buy internal combustion engine motorcars,
but we still haven't reached the point where it's unreasonable to be buying one.

Building an urban horse barn in 1940, however, would raise a few eyebrows, and maybe, eventually,
it will be that way with gasoline fueled cars.

Horse barns are built today, Commie.

 

[Into the Night]

Do people buy ten year old cars if they're not classics worthy of restoration?

Yes.

 

[Into the Night]

How much does/will it cost?
Why is this article intently focused on bragging up acceleration? (I already know why)
How is it being estimated to "have a 500 mile range"?
What is "a significant weight"?
Is the 2kWh/mile usage claim referring to just the semi itself or with a trailer under "a significant weight"?

Only a handful of the MANY questions.........

The battery pack required for such a truck is significant weight. That takes away from the payload capacity of the truck. The power to weight problem with EVs goes up as the square of the vehicle's weight. Why? Because you also have to carry the weight of the battery!

 

[Into the Night]

Is it your contention that ONLY 'MAGA' people are in to gas powered vehicles?

Obviously, it is.

 

[Into the Night]

Electric Vehicles are better than gas cars in so many ways and car buyers are starting to appreciate the difference.
Lower maintenance. Cheaper to run. Better performance.

Yagina will be purchasing an EV soon. Very soon.

EVs Offer Big Savings Over Traditional Gas-Powered Cars
A CR study shows that total ownership cost savings can more than make up for an electric vehicle's typically higher purchase price

When it comes to buying an electric vehicle, many consumers might like the idea, but they sometimes balk at the purchase price, which is typically higher than that of an equivalent gasoline-powered vehicle. However, new research from Consumer Reports shows that when total ownership cost is considered—including such factors as purchase price, fueling costs, and maintenance expenses—EVs come out ahead, especially in more affordable segments. (Download a PDF of the fact sheet and the complete report.)

The savings advantage can be compelling in the first few years and continues to improve the longer you own the EV. Our study shows that fuel savings alone can be $4,700 or more over the first seven years.

When comparing vehicles of similar size and from the same segment, an EV can cost anywhere from 10 percent to over 40 percent more than a similar gasoline-only model, according to CR's analysis. The typical total ownership savings over the life of most EVs ranges from $6,000 to $10,000, CR found.

Chanting this again??

EVs are NOT cheaper than gasoline cars. I can buy THREE brand new gasoline cars for the price of one EV. I don't have to take any of the gasoline cars to the dealer for maintenance either. I don't have to constantly worry where my next charge is going to come from nor spend hours charging any of those cars. Insurance is a lot cheaper too.