Hertz plans for EVs to make up 25% of its 500,000 vehicles. MAGA soils diapers.

floridafan said:
hertz isn't in business to lose money, they know exactly what they are doing. For now, EV is the future.
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Ford is retiring these three gas models to make way for new electric vehicles

Three gas-powered Ford models are out as the Blue Oval brand makes way for new electric vehicles. The move comes as the American automaker looks ahead toward its next-generation EV platform set to spawn a new generation of Ford EVs.
Although Ford has run into some hurdles surrounding its EV rollout, the automaker is accelerating the development of its second-generation models.
Ford’s CEO Jim Farley confirmed in February that the automaker was developing its own in-house EV platform to house its next generation of electric vehicles. The new EV architecture will support a new full-size electric pickup and three-row SUV.
Project T3 (for “Trust The Truck), as it’s being called, is a tribute to the team developing an electric truck for the digital age. It’s a truck that’s fully capable of towing, hauling, exporting power, and new innovations.
The new electric truck will be “like the Millennium Falcon – with a back porch attached,” according to Farley. It will be built at Ford’s new nearly six-square-mile BlueOval City complex in Tennessee.
Meanwhile, Ford is retooling its Oakville assembly plant in Ontario, converting it into an EV and battery pack manufacturing hub.
 
Nordberg said:
Companies are going EV because it is cheaper. They are motivated by profits. EVs are more reliable, require far less maintenance and save a fortune in fuel costs. That is why thy are changing.
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There will be a point in the next few years where people will stop buying gas cars because of the fear they won't be able to re-sell them.
They will become obsolete. EVs are the future.

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►The fastest electric cars in the world

► Spoiler alert – they’re way quicker than petrol cars

► The fastest can get from 0–62mph in under two seconds

Electric supercars are the new performance kings. The best electric cars are now nipping at the heels of Formula One racers in the 0–62mph sprint, thanks to their devastating blend of immense power and instant torque delivery. The rate of change is rapid, too – at the start of the 2020s, most of the fastest cars on sale were still powered by combustion engines.
Tesla illustrates the speed of EV progress very well. The range-topping Model S Performance P100D was a blisteringly fast car when it was launched in 2017, boasting a 0–60mph time of around 2.4 seconds. Just when we thought the car couldn’t get any faster, Elon Musk unveiled the Model S Plaid in 2021 with a staggering 1006bhp and 0–60mph time of under two seconds.
Read exclusive content on the Car app
Electric cars have it easier than petrol cars, though. EV powertrains don’t need to climb into the upper echelons on their rev ranges before delivering their peak torque. All of it – and it’s normally a lot – is available from a standstill. Even a run-of-the-mill family car like the*Kia EV6*(which is one of our*best electric SUVs) can get from 0–62mph in around five seconds. That was hot hatchback territory a few years ago, and supercar levels of performance a couple of decades ago.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
►The fastest electric cars in the world

► Spoiler alert – they’re way quicker than petrol cars

► The fastest can get from 0–62mph in under two seconds

Electric supercars are the new performance kings. The best electric cars are now nipping at the heels of Formula One racers in the 0–62mph sprint, thanks to their devastating blend of immense power and instant torque delivery. The rate of change is rapid, too – at the start of the 2020s, most of the fastest cars on sale were still powered by combustion engines.
Tesla illustrates the speed of EV progress very well. The range-topping Model S Performance P100D was a blisteringly fast car when it was launched in 2017, boasting a 0–60mph time of around 2.4 seconds. Just when we thought the car couldn’t get any faster, Elon Musk unveiled the Model S Plaid in 2021 with a staggering 1006bhp and 0–60mph time of under two seconds.
Read exclusive content on the Car app
Electric cars have it easier than petrol cars, though. EV powertrains don’t need to climb into the upper echelons on their rev ranges before delivering their peak torque. All of it – and it’s normally a lot – is available from a standstill. Even a run-of-the-mill family car like the*Kia EV6*(which is one of our*best electric SUVs) can get from 0–62mph in around five seconds. That was hot hatchback territory a few years ago, and supercar levels of performance a couple of decades ago.
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How useless is that? Anyone can go fast in a straight line.

Teslas on the other hand, have so-so handling and weak suspension systems. The ball joints and suspension arms are known to wear out prematurely and even break.

https://insideevs.com/news/447593/tesla-suspension-issues-owners-true-stories/

Part of this is a poor design of the suspension, but a good part is simply shitty quality.

Another issue is braking. Sure, there's the marginal regenerative thing, but braking is overall worse than in ICE cars simply because there's more mass to overcome to stop the vehicle.
 
Tesla Model 3 review:


I am 5K into my ownership of my Tesla Model 3 Standard. As a realtor, I spend a lot of time behind the wheel.

This car is a blast to drive. I love the combination of comfort, sportiness, and luxury. I wasn’t sure if I would like the simplicity interior but I love it. I personally like one screen operating everything. There is a learning curve but it is pretty quick.

My last car was an Audi A6 and I enjoy driving this car more than my Audi and I loved my Audi. Handling is very crisp and you feel in total control behind the wheel. The ride isn’t as soft as many luxury cars but the combination of speed, handling, and comfort are perfect in my opinion. Acceleration is instantaneous no matter what speed you're going. Not having a transmission makes for seamless acceleration.

The technology is fantastic. The controls are easy to use once you get acclimated. The sound system is exceptional even in the base trim. Movies sound like a movie theater. The cruise control is the best I have experienced and the ability to respond to voice commands is very impressive and you don’t have to “train” it to recognize your voice. The navigation system is also the best I have experienced. The range is more than adequate for my driving habits.

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Hawkeye10 said:
BullShit....they are warriors for UTOPIA....which is all electric.

But they are making a hash of it.
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Are you really that crazy? Corporations do not care about anything but profits. If it was not a good financial decision, they would not have made it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
How useless is that? Anyone can go fast in a straight line.

Teslas on the other hand, have so-so handling and weak suspension systems. The ball joints and suspension arms are known to wear out prematurely and even break.

https://insideevs.com/news/447593/tesla-suspension-issues-owners-true-stories/

Part of this is a poor design of the suspension, but a good part is simply shitty quality.

Another issue is braking. Sure, there's the marginal regenerative thing, but braking is overall worse than in ICE cars simply because there's more mass to overcome to stop the vehicle.
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EVs weigh a lot less than most ICEs on the road. The ICEs get shorter t brake usage and worse stopping distances.
 
Nordberg said:
EVs weigh a lot less than most ICEs on the road. The ICEs get shorter t brake usage and worse stopping distances.
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Are you that oblivious... Yes, you are...

Why electric cars are so much heavier than regular cars
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/business/electric-vehicles-weight/index.html

https://www.researchgate.net/figure...ssenger-cars-and-corresponding_tbl1_353150136

ICE's have shorter braking distances, and less brake pad wear. That doesn't account for a manual transmission ICE vehicle using engine braking in addition to the brakes.

With the latter, if you were following some vehicle in your EV at normal driving distance behind an ICE vehicle with a manual transmission and disc brakes all around, you would eat the rear end of that ICE vehicle if it used a combination of high rev engine braking and hard stopping on the brakes, guaranteed. If it were me driving the ICE vehicle, I shift to first or second depending on starting speed--preferably first--then simultaneously slam on the brakes and drop the clutch. You are at fault for following too close in your EV.
 
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“Gas prices have really pushed shoppers to consider EVs that otherwise wouldn’t have sooner.”
by Katie Kottemann*/*September 4, 2023

Tesla has the most popular used electric vehicle (EV) models in the U.S., according to CarMax, a highly popular used vehicle retailer.*
Of the company’s top 10 most popular EVs, Tesla holds four spots. The Model 3 and Model Y came in first and second, while the Model X and Model S came in seventh and eighth.*
Used Tesla prices vary, with the cost-effective Model 3 selling for an average price of $37,000, according to the report. On average, a used Model Y sells for $47,807, with a Model S selling for $63,331. The Model X is the most expensive of Tesla’s used vehicles on the list averaging $72,136.
CarMax’s report is good news for both Tesla and the EV industry in general, as it shows that interest in purchasing a used EV doubled between 2022 and 2023.
EVs are well-known for their environmental benefits, limiting air and noise pollution and improving local air quality by creating less pollution than cars powered by dirty energy sources.
 
Hertz Global Holdings Inc. earnings missed estimates amid headwinds from Tesla Inc. price cuts and the high price of repairs for electric vehicles.

Tesla has been rapidly dropping its prices to spur sales, which has lowered the resale value of the EVs in Hertz’s fleet by about one-third. Repair costs for EVs have also been higher than expected, about double what the company pays to fix damaged gasoline cars, Chief Executive Officer Stephen Scherr said in an interview Thursday.

The rental-car company reported third-quarter adjusted profit of 70 cents a share, below the 77-cent average estimate of analysts surveyed by Bloomberg. Excluding EV costs, Hertz probably would have met Wall Street expectations, Scherr said.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hertz-misses-profit-estimate-tesla-134859568.html
 
If you go back into this thread I am pretty sure that you will be told that Hertz is going to EV's because they are cheaper to operate, to which I responded "Says Who (paraphrase)".

The truth is the opposite, they are more expensive to operate, and it sure does not help that customers generally dont want them, and when they do rent an EV they tend to have a negative experience, partly because of the nature of EV's and partly because of general Hertz bungling, which I have talked about on JPP.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
If you go back into this thread I am pretty sure that you will be told that Hertz is going to EV's because they are cheaper to operate, to which I responded "Says Who (paraphrase)".

The truth is the opposite, they are more expensive to operate, and it sure does not help that customers generally dont want them, and when they do rent an EV they tend to have a negative experience, partly because of the nature of EV's and partly because of general Hertz bungling, which I have talked about on JPP.
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They cost more to purchase. Hertz sells cars before their warranty expires so there isn't much cost to operate for Hertz. Just oil changes.
 
ExpressLane said:
They cost more to purchase. Hertz sells cars before their warranty expires so there isn't much cost to operate for Hertz. Just oil changes.
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Did you notice that the Hertz execs said today that you are wrong, and that they are cutting their EV buys till/unless they figure this out?
 
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