Trump's reception at the Iowa football game

BartenderElite said:
Well, except for vet benefits, ending a war, adding 13+ million jobs, et al.

But I don't care if "Brandon" is the worst President in history (he isn't). Trump led a damned insurrection. It's embarrassing what the GOP has become.
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He didn’t lead anything he told them to protest peacefully.
 
martin said:
Because Putin feared his suckup?

If Trump was a factor for the invasion occurring after instead of before the election the likely reason is that Putin was protecting Trump's chances, his concern being that if Russia invaded and Trump not only held the U.S. back but also refused to
agree to NATO assistance, as Trump would have done, it would hurt Trump with voters.
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Democrats love them some war. Why would Putin need to protect Trump? Your Russia, Russia, Russia bullshit was debunked years ago.
 
Hello BartenderElite,

BartenderElite said:
A conquering hero. Almost like he was a god.

I'm having a harder time being proud to be an American. Like, seriously - what the fuck is w/ these people?
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He got booed and flipped off by many. There is hope.

But agreed; the number of remaining conned is troubling.
 
Lionfish said:
Democrats love them some war. Why would Putin need to protect Trump? Your Russia, Russia, Russia bullshit was debunked years ago.
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The obvious fact that Putin appeals to Trump and vice versa isn't bullshit and was made obvious years ago.
 
martin said:
The obvious fact that Putin appeals to Trump and vice versa isn't bullshit and was made obvious years ago.
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Fact be known Marty, I want a president that appeals to every major world leader. Right now, we have the opposite.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Oh, let's do!
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We can start with the pandemic. Trump’s response, and the lingering resistance he instilled in his followers have resulted in tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths. Probably more.

Now, I know your response. More have died of COVID under Biden as President. True. Trump was only in office about nine months or less versus Biden’s tenure. The timeline doesn’t end or start on exactly Jan. 20, 2021 either, dumbfuck. Virus casualties peaked under Trump and have never reached those numbers again, even with the virulent Delta variant. That’s only part of it. Secondary deaths were highly elevated under Trump because hospitals were overwhelmed with COVID patients.

Let’s continue. After vaccines became available, deaths then became one of political geography. Even though vaccines were available to ANYONE WHO WANTED THEM, anti-government Trumptards became the victims. You know, pushing Ivermectin instead of vaccines. The bleach blunder. Even hiding his own vaccination status.
 
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Tinkerpeach said:
He didn’t lead anything he told them to protest peacefully.
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Calling for protestors to "fight like hell or we won't have a country anymore" is not a call to protest peacefully. Also trump's neglect by watching the violence for 3 hours despite please from his family and fellow trumpers to call off the thugs is another fact that makes trump guilty of promoting the violence.

His one quote of saying "peacefully" was just another trump lie. The whole idea was to halt the transition of power to the victor of the 2020 election.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-trump-us-capitol-remarks-221518bc174f9bc3dd6e108e653ed08d

"“We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about. To use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal.”

Reschenthaler accurately quoted a line from Trump, when the president told supporters “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”

But throughout his remarks, Trump spoke of the need to “fight,” to be angry, to stop President-elect Joe Biden from taking office.

— “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”:
 
BartenderElite said:
A conquering hero. Almost like he was a god.

I'm having a harder time being proud to be an American. Like, seriously - what the fuck is w/ these people?
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Maybe you should be more concerned why Biden, if at a similar event, would likely be treated as shoe scum.

The way I see it is as the Left grows in power and visibility, it will become increasingly despised by the majority of the population. That was as true in the Soviet Union, likely as true in China, and certainly so in places like Cuba or Venezuela. N. Korea is more like an insane cult.

Anyway, the problem is the Democrats aren't offering any alternative to Trump, nor is the establishment Republican party that is more Democrats lite than anything today. People want an alternative to all that, and Trump appears to be all they've got at the moment. The WTF moment is that the Left doesn't get that, and never will.

For me, it's not like I think Trump is worthy of whatever, but more supporting him means I'm not supporting the Left and the Left historically is the most evil, vile, destructive, rapacious, monstrous political force to ever exist. The Left will destroy you and me to get what they want, no matter how insane what they want appears. That is worth opposing at any cost, and if that cost is electing Trump, then sobeit.
 
Lionfish said:
Fact be known Marty, I want a president that appeals to every major world leader. Right now, we have the opposite.
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That's a partially correct statement - in that we have the opposite. trump cozied up to despots and dictators while snubbing the west. Biden has a great relationship with our allies and doesn't kiss Putin's dirty ass like trump did.
 
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