Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

I think that's bananas. I think there is 100% no doubt that Lott was referring to segregation.

As I said, I didn't really care about Lott's comments, and don't really care about Reid's. Too much is made of this kind of stuff. It has been my experience that there is a small amount of racism in just about everyone, and it comes out on occasion; in the south in particular, I think it comes out a bit more openly. When Lott made that comment, he was in a casual setting, and I think he was just saying what he & many other southerners of his generation feel.

I'm more concerned about policies that are racist or don't reflect equality. This kind of PC stuff is just fodder for the politics of personal destruction, and partisans just use it as an excuse to bring people down.

So when Lott explains himself afterward... that means nothing... we are to instead take the Dems version of what they THOUGHT he meant.

But with Reid... when he explains himself... well, then we take him at his word as it was meant to 'compliment' the President.

Reids words were EXPLICIT. 'light skinned' and 'Negro' were a part of the quote.

Lott's were not. You have to read into what he said. The fact that he made a similar quote in 1980 means little as even then it was THIRTY years since Thurmond had run for President.

But I know... the Reps are racist and Reid is just misunderstood.
 
I wasn't quoting him directly, as evidenced by the lack of quotation marks. I believe the verbatim offensive comment was posted above.

Do you seriously think that my paraphrase is off-base or are you just being an apologist for Republican Trent Lott's segregationist nostalgia? And, again, what specifically do you find offensive about Reid's remark?

You've been pwnd, right and proper.
 
Lott said that the country would have been better off with a segregationist president.

Why cant you figure out why that is SO wrong?
 
Lott said that the country would have been better off with a segregationist president.

Why cant you figure out why that is SO wrong?

Except that is NOT what he said. That is what Dems said he 'meant'. Lott explained himself... but you lemmings don't give a shit about that.

Reid said 'light skinned' and 'Negro'.... OMG!!!!

But you apologists.... please continue... your hypocrisy is amusing.
 
I think that's bananas. I think there is 100% no doubt that Lott was referring to segregation.

As I said, I didn't really care about Lott's comments, and don't really care about Reid's. Too much is made of this kind of stuff. It has been my experience that there is a small amount of racism in just about everyone, and it comes out on occasion; in the south in particular, I think it comes out a bit more openly. When Lott made that comment, he was in a casual setting, and I think he was just saying what he & many other southerners of his generation feel.

I'm more concerned about policies that are racist or don't reflect equality. This kind of PC stuff is just fodder for the politics of personal destruction, and partisans just use it as an excuse to bring people down.

You're a fucking trip! Trent Lott didn't even mention segregation, yet that's what you feel people are 100% sure he was talking about! Well, by that standard, Reid said that Obama didn't talk like a nigger, and is whiter than most niggers, which makes him a good nigger to run for president! He didn't actually SAY those words, but it's 100% certain that IS what he meant!

It's refreshing to know that you don't care about him saying that! That you feel that isn't a big deal, and too much is being made of it! Maybe if we all thought like Reid, we wouldn't have all these problems? Is that how you feel about it? It's good to know that!
 
So when Lott explains himself afterward... that means nothing... we are to instead take the Dems version of what they THOUGHT he meant.

But with Reid... when he explains himself... well, then we take him at his word as it was meant to 'compliment' the President.

Reids words were EXPLICIT. 'light skinned' and 'Negro' were a part of the quote.

Lott's were not. You have to read into what he said. The fact that he made a similar quote in 1980 means little as even then it was THIRTY years since Thurmond had run for President.

But I know... the Reps are racist and Reid is just misunderstood.

I didn't say anything about Reid. I don't think he was misunderstood.
 
You're a fucking trip! Trent Lott didn't even mention segregation, yet that's what you feel people are 100% sure he was talking about! Well, by that standard, Reid said that Obama didn't talk like a nigger, and is whiter than most niggers, which makes him a good nigger to run for president! He didn't actually SAY those words, but it's 100% certain that IS what he meant!

It's refreshing to know that you don't care about him saying that! That you feel that isn't a big deal, and too much is being made of it! Maybe if we all thought like Reid, we wouldn't have all these problems? Is that how you feel about it? It's good to know that!


Why are you guys spinning Lott? Like I said, I think the PC police on both guys was over the top. I'm more concerned about policies of inequality than personal beliefs that reveal what I would consider insignificant racist tendencies.

Lott was clearly talking about segregation. What weird spin...
 
Nice. So not only is supporting a black man for president comparable to supporting a segregationist for president, it's worse!

Nice work, SF and Dixie!
 
Why are you guys spinning Lott? Like I said, I think the PC police on both guys was over the top. I'm more concerned about policies of inequality than personal beliefs that reveal what I would consider insignificant racist tendencies.

Lott was clearly talking about segregation. What weird spin...


You have to be a special kind of hack to criticize Reid while defending Lott. SF amply qualifies.
 
Nice. So not only is supporting a black man for president comparable to supporting a segregationist for president, it's worse!

Nice work, SF and Dixie!

LMAO... wow... that is a beautiful strawman you have created.

One directly referenced skin color and negro dialect...

the other... Dems read into what he actually said and pretend they know what he meant.

Reid apologizes for what he said directly... no worries

Lott explains that he did not mean what the Dems IMPLIED he did and apologizes for not being clear... well he needs to be drummed out of his leadership role.
 
Why are you guys spinning Lott? Like I said, I think the PC police on both guys was over the top. I'm more concerned about policies of inequality than personal beliefs that reveal what I would consider insignificant racist tendencies.

Lott was clearly talking about segregation. What weird spin...

THAT is the SPIN.

While I am sure it was 'clear' to the opposing party and its lemmings... to those of us who actually read what he stated and read what he said was meant by that statement... you idiots were CLEARLY reading into his comments what you wanted in order to make him out to be racist.
 
Nice. So not only is supporting a black man for president comparable to supporting a segregationist for president, it's worse!

Nice work, SF and Dixie!

Reid DID NOT support a black man for president; he supported a light skinned negro who had no negro dialect for president...sheesh get it straight you friggin hack!
 
Except that is NOT what he said. That is what Dems said he 'meant'. Lott explained himself... but you lemmings don't give a shit about that.

Reid said 'light skinned' and 'Negro'.... OMG!!!!

But you apologists.... please continue... your hypocrisy is amusing.

Maybe if he did not have membership in a party that has repetedly worked to keep black voters from voting maybe someone would have Bought his "explanation".
 
THAT is the SPIN.

While I am sure it was 'clear' to the opposing party and its lemmings... to those of us who actually read what he stated and read what he said was meant by that statement... you idiots were CLEARLY reading into his comments what you wanted in order to make him out to be racist.

How naive can you be?

What "problems" do you think Lott was referring to? That was classic southern-speak.

All he said was that his comments were about "the man & his life" - THAT is classic politico double-speak.

Seriously, give it up. He was talking about segregation, period.
 
[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Central_Voter_File[/ame]

James Lee's testimony
On 17 April, 2001, James Lee testified, before the McKinney panel, that the state had given DBT the directive to add to the purge list people who matched at least 90% of a last name. DBT objected, knowing that this would produce a huge number of false positives (non-felons).[7]

Lee went on saying that the state then ordered DBT to shift to an even lower threshold of 80% match, allowing also names to be reversed (thus a person named Thomas Clarence could be taken to be the same as Clarence Thomas). Besides this, middle initials were skipped, Jr. and Sr. suffixes dropped, and some nicknames and aliases were added to puff up the list.

"DBT told state officials", testified Lee, "that the rules for creating the [purge] list would mean a significant number of people who were not deceased, not registered in more than one county, or not a felon, would be included on the list. DBT made suggestions to reduce the numbers of eligible voters included on the list". According to Lee, to this suggestion the state told the company, "Forget about it".

"The people who worked on this (for DBT) are very adamant... they told them what would happen", said Lee. "The state expected the county supervisors to be the failsafe." Lee said his company will never again get involved in cleansing voting rolls. "We are not confident any of the methods used today can guarantee legal voters will not be wrongfully denied the right to vote", Lee told a group of Atlanta-area black lawmakers in March 2001.[8]

[edit] Errors in the list
Florida has re-edited its felon list five times since 1998 to correct errors



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_caging#1980s


1980s
In 1981 and 1986 the Republican National Committee (RNC) sent out letters to predominately African-American neighborhoods. When tens of thousands of them were returned undeliverable, the party successfully challenged the voters and had them deleted from voting rolls. Due to the violation of the Voting Rights Act, the RNC was taken to court. Its officials entered a consent decree which prohibited the party from engaging in anti-fraud initiatives that targeted minorities or conducting mail campaigns to "compile voter challenge lists."


It is COURT documented fact that republicans have disenfranchised black voters.
 
Maybe if he did not have membership in a party that has repetedly worked to keep black voters from voting maybe someone would have Bought his "explanation".

LMAO... again... your PROJECTION

I know you are upset to find out your Senator is such an obvious racist and are simply trying to lash out at Republicans in an effort to hide the shame you feel for voting for a racist.
 
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