They miscalculated’: Ukraine turns the tables on Russia’s Black Sea Fleet

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They miscalculated’: Ukraine turns the tables on Russia’s Black Sea Fleet
Kyiv, Ukraine – “Russian warship, go f*** yourself!” is the phrase dating back to the first days of the Russia-Ukrainian war, that spawned countless memes and bumper stickers.

It is what Ukrainian servicemen stationed on the Zmiiny Island, or Snake Island, in the Black Sea replied to the Russian warship’s urge to surrender.

But by early 2022, the Russian Black Sea Fleet based in annexed Crimea, seemed to have gained absolute control over Ukraine’s territorial waters in the Black Sea and its smaller, shallower sibling, the Sea of Azov.

Its larger ships shelled Ukraine’s main seaport, Odesa, and other southern cities with missiles and drones, killing civilians and destroying apartment buildings, military installations and port infrastructure.

Smaller Russian navy vessels stopped and officiously inspected merchant ships carrying grain and sunflower oil, Ukraine’s key exports.

Russian navy felt at ease in all of the Black Sea’s northern part – but after almost 600 days of war, the tables have turned.

“They miscalculated,” Lieutenant General Ihor Romanenko, the former deputy chief of Ukraine’s general staff of armed forces, told Al Jazeera. “We won’t let them rest and won’t rest ourselves until we fully de-occupy our lands.”

Fleeing Sevastopol
Satellite imagery shows that at least a dozen Russian vessels, including guided missile frigates, landing ships and submarines, have been hastily relocated from their main base in Sevastopol, a subtropical port in annexed Crimea.

Most were moved to the Russian port of Novorossiisk more than 300km (186 miles) east of Sevastopol, or on other, smaller bases or bays in eastern Crimea or along Russia’s Black Sea coast.

British Defence Minister James Heappey compared the “functional defeat of the Black Sea Fleet” to the liberation of Kharkiv Oblast one year ago.


“The fleet has been forced to disperse to ports from which it cannot have an effect on Ukraine,” he said on Tuesday.

The relocation follows a series of daring Ukrainian attacks with Western-supplied cruise missiles and domestically assembled aerial and naval drones that destroyed flagships, smaller cutters and even a docked submarine.

A satellite image shows smoke billowing from a Russian Black Sea Navy HQ after a missile strike, as Russia's invasion of Ukraine continues, in Sevastopol, Crimea, September 22, 2023.

A satellite image shows smoke billowing from a Russian Black Sea Navy HQ after a missile attack in Sevastopol, Crimea, September 22, 2023 [Planet Labs PBC/Handout via Reuters]
They also annihilated two advanced S-400 air defence systems creating sizeable “holes” in the sky over Crimea.

And, most importantly, they damaged a major shipyard with a dry dock that was essential for repairing decades-old Russian ships.

“What was critical for Russia wasn’t damage to vessels, it was damage to the shipyard,” Kyiv-based analyst Ihar Tyshkevich told Al Jazeera. “This is the reason why a large part of the Black Sea fleet vessels were relocated to Novorossiisk.”

On September 22, Kyiv barraged and partially destroyed the Fleet’s headquarters in a snow-white Stalinist building in Sevastopol

Regaining northwestern Black Sea
The attacks dramatically reduced Russia’s capabilities to land troops near Odesa and back occupying forces in the southern region of Kherson, analysts have said.

“Ukraine’s actions have wrestled control of Ukraine’s western territorial waters back from Russia and prevented the Black Sea Fleet from threatening Odesa with amphibious assault or providing tactical fires and logistical support to Russian forces in Kherson,” retired US Army Major General Gordon Skip Davis Jr told Al Jazeera.

The success seems even more staggering given that Ukraine’s minuscule navy lost most of its ships during Crimea’s 2014 annexation and consists of two dozen obsolete vessels that can all fit into a tiny bay.......

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...e-turns-the-tables-on-russias-black-sea-fleet

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If Russia is "winning the war" why are they not able to defend their fleet in the Black sea. Why are they withdrawing the fleet. Why did they allow their headquarters in Sevastopol. Maybe Hawkeye can explain? It's not like Aljazeera is a pro Ukrainian publication.
 
:whoa: This is huge!

Will it rally the Russian people? What will Vlad do now?
 
Magatards kiss Putin's ass because Trump does, just like monkey see, monkey do.

Russian collusion was a democrat hoax.

Hunter's laptop is Russian Disinformation is a democrat hoax.

Hot Mic Obama handed Crimea to Vlad on a silver platter. And armed Ukrainians with blankets.

Europe still buys Russian gas. Which Pres. Trump tried to stop.

Plugs did nothing when Vlad massed troops on Ukraine border.

You have lost your mind. :palm:
 
Cracka pleez :palm:

It was Hot Mic Obama that handed Vlad the Crimea on a silver platter.

The Ukrainian army didn't even fire a shot to defend Ukraine in 2014, and basically gave it up without a fight.

The United States isn't going to go to war for people who won't defend themselves.


Since 2014, we and NATO have trained the formerly ineffective Ukrainian army to be able to defend it's territory.
 
The Ukrainian army didn't even fire a shot to defend Ukraine in 2014, and basically gave it up without a fight.

The United States isn't going to go to war for people who won't defend themselves.


Since 2014, we and NATO have trained the formerly ineffective Ukrainian army to be able to defend it's territory.

Oh pleez, they were infiltrated by non uniformed military before they had a chance to fight. And Obama and Nato did nothing.

The fighting front was quickly pushed to Donbass where Ukrainians fought ferociously. Don't try to rewrite history. :palm:
 
Cracka pleez :palm:

It was Hot Mic Obama that handed Vlad the Crimea on a silver platter.

The Libratards forget that Trump sent the CIA to Ukraine to train the Ukrainian military. That is one of the big reasons Ukraine has been effectively stopping the Russian invasion.
 
Oh pleez, they were infiltrated by non uniformed military before they had a chance to fight. And Obama and Nato did nothing.

The fighting front was quickly pushed to Donbass where Ukrainians fought ferociously. Don't try to rewrite history. :palm:

Thanks for basically admitting the Ukrainian army gave up Ukraine without a fight.

Rightwingers always want to to send our troops to fight wars for people who won't even defend themselves: South Vietnam, Afghanistan, Crimea 2014
 
Thanks for basically admitting the Ukrainian army gave up Ukraine without a fight.

Rightwingers always want to to send our troops to fight wars for people who won't even defend themselves: South Vietnam, Afghanistan, Crimea 2014
Who said send our troops to Ukraine. How about sending them some offensive weapons. And sending some Javelin missiles. Like Trump did.

What changed between the Obama administration and the Biden administration. Trump sent weapons instead of blankets and Trump sent the CIA to train Ukraine how to fight.
 
Who said send our troops to Ukraine. How about sending them some offensive weapons. And sending some Javelin missiles. Like Trump did.

What changed between the Obama administration and the Biden administration. Trump sent weapons instead of blankets and Trump sent the CIA to train Ukraine how to fight.
Trump hates Ukraine and had to be coerced by his staff to give javelins to Ukraine. Congress also had to override and outvote Trump's veto threats on Ukranian aid.

When you can post news accounts of the fierce battles the Ukranian army fought to defend Crimea in 2014, then I will accept there was a compelling reason for the United States to commit it's substantial resources and credibility to the fight for Crimea back then.
 
Thanks for basically admitting the Ukrainian army gave up Ukraine without a fight.

Rightwingers always want to to send our troops to fight wars for people who won't even defend themselves: South Vietnam, Afghanistan, Crimea 2014

What part of the Ukrainian army was stationed at the Russian naval base? How many?

Why do you deny the fighting moved to Donbass where obama did nothing?

Why do you deny that Pres. Trump targeted Vlad's soldiers in Syria. All you Dems cried and whined, "poor Vlad" when it happened. Your Russian hoax is ridiculous.

"Mike Pompeo Confirms Hundreds of Russians Killed in Syria

Time Magazine
https://time.com › Politics › Syria
Apr 12, 2018 — ... Syrian forces who were working alongside Russian mercenaries. “In Syria, now, a handful of weeks ago the Russian met their match,” Pompeo ...
 
What part of the Ukrainian army was stationed at the Russian naval base? How many?

Why do you deny the fighting moved to Donbass where obama did nothing?

Why do you deny that Pres. Trump targeted Vlad's soldiers in Syria. All you Dems cried and whined, "poor Vlad" when it happened. Your Russian hoax is ridiculous.

"Mike Pompeo Confirms Hundreds of Russians Killed in Syria

Time Magazine
https://time.com › Politics › Syria
Apr 12, 2018 — ... Syrian forces who were working alongside Russian mercenaries. “In Syria, now, a handful of weeks ago the Russian met their match,” Pompeo ...

Post the news stories of the fierce battles the Ukrainian army fought to defend Crimea in 2014.


Your failure to post those kind of news accounts, will be taken as proof that in 2014 Ukraine did not try to defend Crimea in any substantive way, and it would have been stupid as shit for the US to commit to airlifting military aid and putting our credibility on the line for a war that was lost in the first 72 hours.
 
Post the news stories of the fierce battles the Ukrainian army fought to defend Crimea in 2014.


Your failure to post those kind of news accounts, will be taken as proof that in 2014 Ukraine did not try to defend Crimea in any substantive way, and it would have been stupid as shit for the US to commit to airlifting military aid and putting our credibility on the line for a war that was lost in the first 72 hours.

I'm sorry, how many Ukrainian soldiers did you say were stationed in Crimea. I didn't hear you.

Why do you deny that the fighting front moved to Donbass where Obama abandoned Ukrainian soldiers?
 
I'm sorry, how many Ukrainian soldiers did you say were stationed in Crimea. I didn't hear you.

Why do you deny that the fighting front moved to Donbass where Obama abandoned Ukrainian soldiers?

I accept your failure to find any evidence that Ukraine tried to ferociously defend Crimea in any meaningful way in 2014.

Are you frequently in the habit of demanding the United States airlift military aid and commit our credibility to people who won't even defend themselves? I bet you wanted US troops to keep fighting and dying in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
 
I accept your failure to find any evidence that Ukraine tried to ferociously defend Crimea in any meaningful way in 2014.

Are you frequently in the habit of demanding the United States airlift military aid and commit our credibility to people who won't even defend themselves? I bet you want US troops to keep fighting and dying in Vietnam and Afghanistan.

Donbass denial. :palm:

Oh pleez, Obama bombed more countries than Geroge W. Bush.

Why can't you defend your Russian collusion hoax, when it was Obama who got caught on a Hot Mic secretly promising to help Vlad after he deceived the American public in the next election.
 
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