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Biden draws direct link between Putin and Hamas as he urges aid for Israel and Ukraine

US president said Americans must not walk away from their role as a ‘beacon to the world’ in rare Oval Office address
as he urges aid for Israel and Ukraine

Joe Biden has drawn a direct, provocative link between Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and Hamas’s attack on Israel as he urged Americans not to walk away from their role as “a beacon to the world”.

In only the second Oval Office address of his presidency, Biden said he would ask Congress to provide aid for both Israel and Ukraine and denounced the scourge of antisemitism and Islamophobia at home.

“Hamas and Putin represent different threats, but they share this in common: they both want to completely annihilate a neighboring democracy,” said Biden,
 
Cypress said:
Biden draws direct link between Putin and Hamas as he urges aid for Israel and Ukraine

US president said Americans must not walk away from their role as a ‘beacon to the world’ in rare Oval Office address
as he urges aid for Israel and Ukraine

Joe Biden has drawn a direct, provocative link between Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and Hamas’s attack on Israel as he urged Americans not to walk away from their role as “a beacon to the world”.

In only the second Oval Office address of his presidency, Biden said he would ask Congress to provide aid for both Israel and Ukraine and denounced the scourge of antisemitism and Islamophobia at home.

“Hamas and Putin represent different threats, but they share this in common: they both want to completely annihilate a neighboring democracy,” said Biden,
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It was a short but very good speech, IMO.

I liked and agreed 100% with this part:

“History has taught us that when terrorists don’t pay a price for their terror, when dictators don’t pay a price for their aggression, they cause more chaos and death and more destruction. They keep going and the costs and the threats to America and the world keep rising.”
 
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Doc Dutch said:
It was a short but very good speech, IMO.

I liked and agreed 100% with this part:

“History has taught us that when terrorists don’t pay a price for their terror, when dictators don’t pay a price for their aggression, they cause more chaos and death and more destruction. They keep going and the costs and the threats to America and the world keep rising.”
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I don't think Hamas or Putin can be reasoned with, and have to be dealt with as cancers.
 
Too many political extremists want to spin away from the central issues to address their own extreme issues. IMO, Biden's speech was a move toward the center.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-us-support-of-israel-and-ukraine/ar-AA1iwzeU
Takeaways from Biden’s speech for U.S. support of Israel and Ukraine
Biden sought to connect the two distant wars for an audience that might not see why U.S. interests are at stake. Both Hamas and Russian President Vladimir Putin aim to destroy neighboring democracies, and if they succeed they're bound to feel emboldened and look for more conquests, Biden said....

...Biden spent part of the speech urging tolerance and compassion for people of all faiths. He mentioned an alleged hate crime in Chicago. Authorities say a landlord stabbed and killed a 6-year-old Muslim boy, Wadea Al-Fayoume, and also attacked the boy's mother. Law enforcement officials said both victims were targeted because of their Muslim faith.

"We must, without equivocation, denounce antisemitism," Biden said. "We must also, without equivocation, denounce Islamophobia. And to those of you that are hurting, I want you to know I see you. You belong. And I want to say this to you: You're all American. You're all American. In moments like these and when fear and suspicion, anger and rage run hard, we have to work harder than ever to hold on to the values that make us who we are."

Though Biden has aligned himself with Israel in the conflict, he and his senior Cabinet officials have made it clear that the powerful Israeli military cannot devastate Hamas at any cost. Through diplomatic means, he said, Biden has ensured that vulnerable Palestinian civilians in Gaza will receive humanitarian aid.

Flying home from Israel on Wednesday night, Biden told reporters that he had spoken by phone to Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi, who had agreed to open a border crossing into Gaza that will permit aid to go through and assist the civilian population. If Hamas “confiscates” the aid, Biden added, the flow will stop.

Biden also obliquely suggested that he is pressing Israel to find an alternative to a ground attack that could result in large numbers of civilian casualties.
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Cypress said:
I don't think Hamas or Putin can be reasoned with, and have to be dealt with as cancers.
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Agreed, but the people supporting them or, mainly, the citizens of their groups, can certainly be influenced to do what's in their best long term interests.

The war in Ukraine is not in the long term interests of the Russian people.

A war with Israel is not in the best interests of the Palestinian people regardless if it's a conventional war, as is happening, or the decades long campaign of terrorism. Many Far Left Americans hate Israel for moving Right, but the reality is that decades of Israelis being murdered in their homes, on buses and in markets is pushing Israel to the right.

Stop the terrorists and Israel will come back to center. Instead, LWLs are supporting the terrorists thus ensuring the killing will continue until one side is completely dead.
 
Doc Dutch said:
Agreed, but the people supporting them or, mainly, the citizens of their groups, can certainly be influenced to do what's in their best long term interests.

The war in Ukraine is not in the long term interests of the Russian people.

A war with Israel is not in the best interests of the Palestinian people regardless if it's a conventional war, as is happening, or the decades long campaign of terrorism. Many Far Left Americans hate Israel for moving Right, but the reality is that decades of Israelis being murdered in their homes, on buses and in markets is pushing Israel to the right.

Stop the terrorists and Israel will come back to center. Instead, LWLs are supporting the terrorists thus ensuring the killing will continue until one side is completely dead.
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Yes, I do not collectively hold the Palestinians or the citizens of Russia collectively accountable for the crimes of Hamas and Putin.
 
Doc Dutch said:
It was a short but very good speech, IMO.

I liked and agreed 100% with this part:

“History has taught us that when terrorists don’t pay a price for their terror, when dictators don’t pay a price for their aggression, they cause more chaos and death and more destruction. They keep going and the costs and the threats to America and the world keep rising.”
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It *was* a very good address. Wonder how the Reichwing is spinning it this morning? Oh, never mind. I saw LegionFish's screaming post right below this one of yours. MAGATtards gonna tard.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
It *was* a very good address. Wonder how the Reichwing is spinning it this morning? Oh, never mind. I saw LegionFish's screaming post right below this one of yours. MAGATtards gonna tard.
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If you get all your information from Fox and Newsmax, you were probably expecting Biden's speech to be a declaration of war on Israel, in solidarity with Hamas and Gaza.
 
Cypress said:
Yes, I do not collectively hold the Palestinians or the citizens of Russia collectively accountable for the crimes of Hamas and Putin.
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Agreed to an extent. However, it can't be denied that Putin and Hamas both continue to exist because the population consents to their existence.

If Trump is reelected in 2024, shouldn't the world hold the general US population responsible for the results? Same for a Republican Senate or House? If the US decided to go full till towards White Supremacist authoritarianism, even if only by 51%, shouldn't the majority of Americans be held accountable for their elected and supported leaders?

Consider the French in WWII. There was Vichy France and a lot of citizens who just STFU and consented and then there was the French Resistance. Where is the Russian or anti-Hamas Resistance?

A few years ago many Iranians stood up against their government. There weren't enough of them because they were crushed. The majority consented to their current rulers.
 
Cypress said:
If you get all your information from Fox and Newsmax, you were probably expecting Biden's speech to be a declaration of war on Israel, in solidarity with Hamas and Gaza.
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That, and/or Biden would trip on his way to the podium, and read his grocery list rather than the speech. :rofl2:
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
It *was* a very good address. Wonder how the Reichwing is spinning it this morning? Oh, never mind. I saw LegionFish's screaming post right below this one of yours. MAGATtards gonna tard.
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Some are having a shit-fit. LOL

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/re...ntioned-ukraine-hamas-israel-war-unbelievable
Republicans respond to Biden's Oval Office speech that mentioned Ukraine, Hamas-Israel war: 'Unbelievable'
In Thursday's Oval Office address, President Biden gave attention on Ukraine and said he will send an 'urgent budget request' to Congress on Friday
....His brief remarks, however, were met with some criticism as Republicans and others accused him of trying to fix problems that he previously caused and attempted to use the slaughtering of Israelis and the current humanitarian crisis in Gaza to request additional funds in the Ukraine conflict.

"The shame of it all is that we wouldn’t be in this terrible position if Joe Biden hadn’t been so weak in Afghanistan, so slow in Ukraine, so pandering to Iran, and so absent from the border," wrote Nikki Haley, a Republican presidential candidate who is beating him in some head-to-head polls. "The world is on fire, and America needs strong new leadership to deal with it."

Some critics called his speech "unbelievable" and "completely disgraceful."...
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Cypress said:
Biden has always been a centrist, or center-left, and that's probably what America needs now.
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Center-Left at best. He still mouths the Democrat Party lines which are not always as centered. :)

Still, compared to the current state of the Republican Party, they are more centered and certainly more sane. Relatively speaking. :)
 
BartenderElite said:
Gotta be one of the most ludicrous things I've seen on here. And that's saying something..

Blaming Biden for the Hamas attack. I mean, what's next? Blaming him for cloudy days?
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Legion's tiny dick is getting worse. He completely lacks originality and has degraded into a cut'n'paste troll like Truth Detector and grokmaster.
 
BartenderElite said:
Gotta be one of the most ludicrous things I've seen on here. And that's saying something..

Blaming Biden for the Hamas attack. I mean, what's next? Blaming him for cloudy days?
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A simple yes or no answer is all we request.

Did this happen under President Trump?
 
Lionfish said:
A simple yes or no answer is all we request.

Did this happen under President Trump?
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How about an "LOL?"

Is that the gauge we're using now? I just want to make sure. Because the next time a Republican wins, bad stuff is gonna happen in the world. And using your logic - no matter what it is, it will be that Republican's fault.

So, "LOL." Sorry. No simple yes or no.
 
Lionfish said:
A simple yes or no answer is all we request.

Did this happen under President Trump?
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I will also add to my previous response: Can you show any causality to the claim that Biden bears responsibility for the Hamas attack?

Not just "well, he IS President right now." Some action, or something, that led to this attack..

Syria was a disaster under Trump. Are you saying that was because of Trump?
 
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