Speaker of the House - ”we don’t live in a democracy.”

This is what happens when schools stop teaching civics and grownups then get their alternative education from websites.

We keep having this simple mixup on the meaning of words. China also is a "constitutional republic". This only means a country's governmental leaders aren't chosen by their genes. No more kings, in other words. At the time the U.S. was born every other nation in the Western world was a monarchy.

That the Speaker of the House shares this ignorance is alarming.

The United States is a constitutional republic, a "republic" because it is not a monarchy and a "representative democracy" because the republic is governed by "representatives" of the nation's citizens chosen in free elections.
 
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Poor Richard Saunders said:
Who should we believe? You or Thomas Jefferson?

Eternal Vigilance is the price of democracy.

An informed citizenry is at the heart of a dynamic democracy.

A properly functioning democracy depends on an informed electorate.

Who should we believe? You or Alexander Hamilton?
From Hamilton's notes for ratifying speech -
the proposed government a representative democracy.

1. House of representatives directly chosen by the people for two years.
2. Senate indirectly chosen by them for six years
3. President indirectly chosen by them for four years.
☞ Thus legislative and executive representatives of the people.

The founders were smart enough to know that we are a representative democracy and not just a republic.
Hamilton's notes point out that monarchies and aristocracies can also be republics.
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Jefferson was a RINO.
 
martin said:
This what happens when schools stop teaching civics and grownups then get their alternative education from websites.

We keep having this simple mixup on the meaning of words. China also is a "constitutional republic". This only means our governmental leaders aren't chosen by their genes. No more kings, in other words. At the time the U.S. was born every other nation in the Western world was a monarchy.

That the Speaker of the House shares this simple ignorance is alarming.

The United States is a constitutional republic, a "republic" because it is not a monarchy and a "representative democracy" because the republic is governed by "representatives" of the nation's citizens chosen in free elections.
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that’s why nationalists always want to under fund schools
 
SmarterthanYou said:
this is the sleight of hand bullshit that needs to be eviscerated from public view. there is a reason why the US is a REPUBLIC and NOT a democracy, and that it is specifically so that the will of the people can be ignored, if necessary.
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Wrong again, as I just explained for your red hat comrade, no one ever said it was a direct democracy, rather a democratic republic, democratically we elected those to represent us in a Republican form of Government, how in the hell did you think we elected our representatives
 
Jarod said:
Great article on an issue we discussed a few weeks ago.

Why Republicans are trying to convince Americans we are not a Democracy.


As I discussed here, they are not a major party and Democracy does not work for them anymore, so pretend its not an American value of that we were not founded on Democratic principal's.

Justify your biblical rule by diminishing Democracy.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/31/opinions/mike-johnson-gop-extreme-right-agenda-avlon/index.html


Abandoning Democracy is what the Republican party has come to.
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Why did the dems allow this to happen?
 
NiftyNiblick said:
The United States is in fact a limited democracy in the form of a Constitutional Republic,
but is burdened by an inefficient format that compromises every one of its functions.

The Republican mindset among the rank and file, at least,
is that a Christian authority comparable to the Islamist Taliban is the way to go.

Our present SCOTUS is such an authority.
Absent the much missed RBG, it's in fact an abomination.

No devout fundamentalist Christian is comfortable with a civilized society.
Social sophistication is anathema to them, much like proper education.
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Sez the commie who wants to burn it all down.
 
cawacko said:
Some say American is a oligarchy, not a democracy. Others say America is a corporate two-party duopoly, not a democracy. We're seeing it now with the attempt to take down the No Labels Party.

So some of these cries of the desire to support or 'save' our democracy ring rather hollow.
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No. No. And no again. We are seeing it now in the REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Period. Full stop. Ignore that at your own peril. And unfortunately for the rest us, OUR peril too. You are fiddling. Rome is burning. Figure it out.
 
Yakuda said:
Form of but not a democracy. A democracy is everyone votes on matters of the state. We elect representatives through the use of a principle of democracy but this isnt a democracy. This isn't complicated. You people react to this like it's some kind of blasphemy. Stop it.
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That's not how forms work.

If it's a form of democracy - it's a democracy.
 
Concart said:
No. No. And no again. We are seeing it now in the REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Period. Full stop. Ignore that at your own peril. And unfortunately for the rest us, OUR peril too. You are fiddling. Rome is burning. Figure it out.
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No point arguing with Trump supporters.
 
Liz Cheney calls new House speaker ‘dangerous’ for January 6 role

The new Republican speaker of the US House, Mike Johnson, is “dangerous” due to his role in Donald Trump’s attempt to overturn the 2020 election, the former Wyoming Republican congresswoman and January 6 committee vice-chair Liz Cheney said.

She added: “One of the reasons why somebody like Mike Johnson is dangerous is because … you have elected Republicans who know better, elected Republicans who know the truth but yet will go along with the efforts to undermine our republic: the efforts, frankly, that Donald Trump undertook to overturn the election.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...mike-johnson-involved-january-6-2020-election
 
Liz Cheney:

“In my experience, and I was very, deeply involved and engaged as the conference chair, when Mike was doing things like convincing members of the conference to sign on to the amicus brief … in my view, he was willing to set aside what he knew to be the rulings of the courts, the requirements of the constitution, in order to placate Donald Trump, in order to gain praise from Donald Trump, for political expedience.

“So it’s a concerning moment to have him be elected speaker of the House.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...mike-johnson-involved-january-6-2020-election
 
archives said:
Wrong again, as I just explained for your red hat comrade, no one ever said it was a direct democracy, rather a democratic republic, democratically we elected those to represent us in a Republican form of Government, how in the hell did you think we elected our representatives
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we are NOT a democratic republic. If we were, the majority could overrule the rights of the minority. This is why the US is a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
BidenPresident said:
Liz Cheney:

“In my experience, and I was very, deeply involved and engaged as the conference chair, when Mike was doing things like convincing members of the conference to sign on to the amicus brief … in my view, he was willing to set aside what he knew to be the rulings of the courts, the requirements of the constitution, in order to placate Donald Trump, in order to gain praise from Donald Trump, for political expedience.

“So it’s a concerning moment to have him be elected speaker of the House.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...mike-johnson-involved-january-6-2020-election
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it worked, that’s how he got to be speaker of the house.
 
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