The Real Uncle Toms

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Holy Jeez....you ARE really fucking stupid! You are not pretending....you really don't know what the hell went on in the world beyond your birthday!

Do you honestly believe that black folk "accepted" segregation and all it's accompanying racist policies? Do you actually believe Rosa Parks just acted on her own? Do you even know the history of the NAACP and it's predecessors in that region of the country?

You're "whole point" is based on either honest or willfull ignorance of the historical facts. Like I said, the bilge you spew does justice to Rockwell, Duke and the plethora of similar minded cretins on the SPLC hit list.
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christiefan915 said:
Good Lord, just when you think you've heard it all...

This idiot apparently doesn't understand that fear is a powerful motivator, and that for centuries blacks had to toe the line that was set in place by white bigots. No white person was ever lynched for whistling at a black woman, no white kids were ever threatened by the National Guard for entering a school, etc. etc.

Dixie can write another 1,000-word screed defending his comments but he can't erase what he's already put out there, and it isn't pretty.
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When you read his statements and responses to me on this thread, it's pretty clear the guy has some serious issues that border on a full blown delusion. Either that or he's just another blogging/spamming "intellectual" racist of the David Duke persuasion (well, the poor man's version anyway...and that's pretty sad in and of itself!)
 
Dixie said:
You can read anything you want to into what I posted, there is nothing inaccurate about it. Yes, for centuries blacks towed the line, that WAS the point! It's obvious they didn't LIKE doing it! It's obvious they didn't WANT to do it! But the undying fact remains, for centuries, they most certainly DID do it! So we have to ask ourselves WHY? Well, the main reason was not wanting to get your head bashed in or hung from a tree! But the point I made, which has yet to be refuted (because it is the truth), is that humans have this propensity to tolerate the intolerable, to avoid confrontation and controversy. It's easier and more conducive with our normal passive condition, and this is true regardless of race.

Whether you think the truth is "pretty" or not, is not MY concern. Whether you want to spend our time trying to twist something I've said into some "racist" comment you can FAKE being deplored at, is entirely up to you!
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what a load of white supremacists horseshit! Slavery enforced via murder, rape, torture on a people removed from their homeland and then institutionalized into substandard education and living conditions, and since it was successful from the owners/oppressor point of view a few centuries, the slaves must have ACCEPTED IT. :palm:

THINK, you bigoted fool, THINK. If it was "accepted" then why did you have to have AN ENTIRE NATION enforce laws, programs and societal standards geared to PREVENT the slaves from escaping their plight, or working to be independent of the system that oppressed them? If the slaves "accepted' their plight, all that history of crimes committed against them wouldn't exist.

You know NOTHING of the history of resistance, of endurance, the spiritual strength of a people who waited, planned and plotted for an opportunity to be free. Your warped version of the truth is based on sheer ignorance as a basis for supposition and conjecture that you substitute for complete facts and logic derived from those facts. You're a joke....a David Duke wanna be joke.
 
Beefy said:
Anyone who thinks minority empowerment and quality of life has not improved since FDR is an idiot. And anyone who attributes the improvement to a political corporation rather than the changing tides of the public is the 2nd Mrs. Jack.
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You miss LBJ who did more than even FDR, FDR was afraid he would lose his coalition if he went too liberal as ironic as that sounds. And I (think) disagree with your second statement as law sure as hell made a great difference. It forced people into schools, neighborhoods, and jobs and thus assured that they would cease to be caricatures. Lots of this I saw firsthand working for the largest corporation on earth at that time.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Southie, you keep taking things out of context and slapping on your BS.....which would fool people if they couldn't merely click the arrow back to the orginal posts and see what a incompetant liar you are.

Bottom line: you can't fault me in an honest, fact based debate...so you throw this nonsense out time and again like an insane person who thinks repeating the same action exactly the same way will get a different result.
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How ironic. :)
 
Dixie said:
You can read anything you want to into what I posted, there is nothing inaccurate about it. Yes, for centuries blacks towed the line, that WAS the point! It's obvious they didn't LIKE doing it! It's obvious they didn't WANT to do it! But the undying fact remains, for centuries, they most certainly DID do it! So we have to ask ourselves WHY? Well, the main reason was not wanting to get your head bashed in or hung from a tree! But the point I made, which has yet to be refuted (because it is the truth), is that humans have this propensity to tolerate the intolerable, to avoid confrontation and controversy. It's easier and more conducive with our normal passive condition, and this is true regardless of race.

Whether you think the truth is "pretty" or not, is not MY concern. Whether you want to spend our time trying to twist something I've said into some "racist" comment you can FAKE being deplored at, is entirely up to you!
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You made several comments that blacks were "content" to sit in the back of the bus, etc. and that's the problem. It's like saying Jews were "content" to go to concentration camps because they wanted to avoid controversy and confrontation.

There's a big, big difference between toeing the line from inertia and toeing the line from fear.

I didn't have to twist anything, I took your words at face value. If you didn't mean them the way you wrote them, maybe you should put more thought into your remarks before hitting the submit button.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Do you actually believe Rosa Parks just acted on her own?
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Actually, Rosa Parks did what she did on her own. She said many times that she was amazed at the reaction to her refusal to give up her seat.

She did it because her feet hurt. She did not do it to start a movement.
 
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Dixie said:
Well, yes, I honestly believe black folks did accept all the policies because black people did exist and the policies did exist, and for the most part, there were no protests. This is common fucking sense, not something difficult to comprehend. And yes, I think Rosa Parks acted alone when she refused to move to the back of the bus! The NAACP was not aboard the bus that day, they weren't standing behind her when she made her stand.

Chicklet, you know something? I don't care if you want to destroy the significance of what Rosa Parks did, I am sure she didn't have any idea of how profound her actions would be in the course of history, and we shouldn't expect people like you to give her credit for the courage. If you want to think what she did was not important and the cumulative efforts going on around her were more significant than anything she ever did as an individual, then so be it! We just disagree!
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What's evident is that you're "honestly" ignorant of history, and that you're "honestly" willfully ignorant of any information that contradicts your beliefs.

Case in point: get educated on who Rosa Parks was and her ties with the NAACP...what REALLY went down in those days.


http://www.africanaonline.com/rosa_parks.htm

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101719889


And the TRUTH is not destroying anything, you David Duke kiss-ass. Parks is still a significant figure for standing up against people with your mindset. Deal with the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

And are you REALLY that fucking stupid to continue to spew that nonsense that "no protests, so they accepted it?" Ask yourself this question genius....if a prison has no riots, are the prisoners accepting their incarcertation? If they are, then why all the heavy duty security? Why not just a minimum security like they have for white collar criminals? Bottom line: if you don't want to die, you bide your time until there is a chance for escape or release.

I suggest you get the book Before the Mayflower: A History of the Negro in America 1619-1964 by Lerone Bennett Jr. Bennett addresses the very nonsense you are blathering here, and documents the history of slave resistence from it's very inception. Or you can remain as proudly and complacently ignorant as you currently are.

Yeah, we've got your number...you're the same lame ass white supremacist clown that ran with Robot45M and Freedom back on the AOL boards. The only intellectually lightweight "chicklet" here is you, bunky.
 
Superfreak said:
Again... my post was in response to yours. Not dixies. I never stated it supported HIS comments. I said it refuted yours. Period. As I stated, I put in the Presidency to show you when in your lifetime they also had complete control of Congress and the WH. That still does not change the fact that you were quite wrong. Pretending that I was somehow wrong was quite simply ridiculous. I refuted your point with accurate information. Period.
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Now you're just being stubborn to the point of insipidness. Bottom line: when all the information is in....YOU were not totally correct in your statements, and neither was I. The difference is that at least I have the maturity to admit such. The chronology of the posts show this. So if you want to keep stating a moot point to either have the last word and/or try to mask your error...be my guest. I'll leave you to it.
 
Dixie said:
Here is the only point we need to know...

Years of control in house and senate:

P- PRS H S
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D- FDR 12 12
D- HST 6 6
R- DDE 2 2
D- JFK 3 3
D- LBJ 5 5
R- RMN 0 0
R- GRF 0 0
D- JEC 4 4
R- RWR 0 0
R- GHB 0 0
D- WJC 2 2
R- GWB 6 4
D- BHO 1 1

DEMS- 33 years
REPS- 6 years

To pretend Democrats have not controlled congress the past 60 years, is beyond foolish, it is completely ignorant of fact. I hope you aren't depending on this excuse for the lack of results in helping the black community. By the way, how are you coming on that list of things the Democrats have done to "help" black people? Where are your pinhead studies to show how Democrat policies have raised the average education levels among blacks, or increased their standard of living over the decades? Show us how Democrat programs have helped to discourage the out of wedlock pregnancies and gang/drug/crime activities among black youth? Let's see all of this profound evidence you have for why America should continue supporting Democrat policies?

...I'm waiting!!
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You're not waiting for anything, you willfully ignorant David Duke wanna be....you're just repeating the same disproven bullshit over and over and over.

You're original statement was that the Dems were in charge of both Houses for the last 60 years. I and inavertently Beefy provided FACTS that show you were WRONG. The Dems had dual control for 35 years....the GOP had the Presidency longer and also had dual control for a good period. I admitted that I was wrong in saying that in my lifetime such a thing didn't happen. Pity you don't have the stones to admit your error.

The Chronology of the Posts here shows how I provide facts and logic that deter every one of your distortions and lies, and expose your ignorance and bigotry. Cornered, you just change the subject...expanding your revisionist clap trap ever wider in hopes of ever avoiding admiting error on any one specific point. And when that fails, you just keep repeating the long disproved nonsense like an insane person.

You're just a little willfully ignorant bigot who takes any opportunity to dump on black folk with your white supremacist bilge. Pity the printed forum is your undoing every time. Carry on.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Southie, you keep taking things out of context and slapping on your BS.....which would fool people if they couldn't merely click the arrow back to the orginal posts and see what a incompetant liar you are.

Bottom line: you can't fault me in an honest, fact based debate...so you throw this nonsense out time and again like an insane person who thinks repeating the same action exactly the same way will get a different result.
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Southern Man said:
How ironic. :)
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:palm:Thanks for proving my point, chuckles.

Say Goodnight Gracie.
 
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