Ohio Vote Returns.

always said it should be up to the states

Giving power to the states appeals on a superficial basis. What it really does is give power to the LCD. When a couple of states eliminated financial regulation and allowed banks to charge fees up the wazoo, nearly every bank put an office in the states and got the same power.
 
Dude…Michigan is not a red state. It’s hard to take someone serious who values the unborn more than living women and children. He just doesn’t get it that the majority of Americans think that #1. It’s none of his business what reproductive decisions a family makes and #2. He’s utterly unqualified and incompetent to make such decisions as are the vast majority of politicians and government magistrates.

I was discussing Ohio, not Michigan.
 
keep up, fuckwit....Gretch the Wretch turned us into a baby killing state in 22......

Maybe, just maybe and unlike you, she understands that she’s not nearly as well educated as an OB/GYN and incompetent to make these decisions.

Who the fuck are you to stick your nose into something that’s none of your business and what qualifications do yo have that even remotely compares to an OB/GYN who has a third level post doctoral education in this profession?

Your arrogance on this subject is only exceeded by your incompetence on the subject.
 
Ohio is not a red State either. Ohio is one of the most blatantly gerrymandered State in the Nation and Tuesday’s vote on both Issues 1&2 shows just how independent Ohio voters are.

Prior to 2020, Ohio had voted for the winner of every Presidential election since 1964. It's the ultimate bellwether state. It's a facile answer trying to label it as red.
 
Prior to 2020, Ohio had voted for the winner of every Presidential election since 1964. It's the ultimate bellwether state. It's a facile answer trying to label it as red.

I know. The only Red State in the Great Lakes region in Indiana. The Mississippi of the Midwest.
 
I know. The only Red State in the Great Lakes region in Indiana. The Mississippi of the Midwest.

LOL, why you hating on Indiana?! (R.I.P. to the General Bob Knight!)

(you going to tell me you never made out with a girl to a John Cougar Mellancamp song? Hahaha)
 
Giving power to the states appeals on a superficial basis. What it really does is give power to the LCD. When a couple of states eliminated financial regulation and allowed banks to charge fees up the wazoo, nearly every bank put an office in the states and got the same power.

Yep, giving power to the states gave us Jim Crow laws, segregation, voting rights violations, lack of access to eduction, “legal” lynchings, on and on.

“States rights”. Dog whistle for 50s style discrimination.
 
Yep, giving power to the states gave us Jim Crow laws, segregation, voting rights violations, lack of access to eduction, “legal” lynchings, on and on.

“States rights”. Dog whistle for 50s style discrimination.

The flip side to that is states are laboratories for democracy. As people here love to say 'as goes California so goes the nation'. Policies that get passed in California would not get passed nationally first (but often seep into national legislation later).

I fully acknowledge that not everything that comes from it is positive, but we've also seen the centralized style Soviet Union top down government over a nation and that did not work.
 
Dude…Michigan is not a red state. It’s hard to take someone serious who values the unborn more than living women and children. He just doesn’t get it that the majority of Americans think that #1. It’s none of his business what reproductive decisions a family makes and #2. He’s utterly unqualified and incompetent to make such decisions as are the vast majority of politicians and government magistrates.

Michigan is a bastion of repub gerrymandering. The Dems have won the popular vote over and over, but CANNOT win the state senate and house.
 
LOL, why you hating on Indiana?! (R.I.P. to the General Bob Knight!)

(you going to tell me you never made out with a girl to a John Cougar Mellancamp song? Hahaha)

You ever been to Indiana? Not only flat and boring, but other than West Virginia, never seen some many smokers everywhere, many places still have the wretch of smoke in the air
 
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